Here is proof that Jim. J. Jeffries was NOT a racialist

[punchoutsb]

When asked in that clip if he could have beaten Joe Louis, he says, "Well, I beat better men than Joe Louis." Of his three toughest opponents while in his prime Fitzsimmons, Corbett and Ruhlin, only Fitz would've stood the gaff for more than a couple of rounds, but Joe would've put him away inside 6 easy. Corbett would've had to run away to avoid being knocked cold. If he tried to box, Louis would've torn him apart like he did Schmeling in their second fight. As for Ruhlin. KO in 1. Choynski and Sharkey were too small to be even considered.

Jeffries must have been hard up to let himself be shown pushing a lawnmower as hired help.

Louis would have beaten Ruhlin the easiest of those you mentioned.

Totally disagree on the rest. Corbett was a fantastic boxer, at least on the level (and bigger) than Billy Conn who gave Louis fits.

Fitzsimmons was a stupidly hard puncher in his own right, and tough as nails. To say he'd be put away "easy" is just not accurate.

Sharkey was a burly, strong guy. He was short, but he was VERY far from small. He'd give ANYONE a rough night.

As for Choynski, he was big enough to beat Jack Johnson, who was at least comparable in size to Louis and at best the bigger man. He definitely had the bigger bone structure.

I'd favor Louis in all of these fights, but to say Fitz, Corbett, or Sharkey would be a walk in the part is just not true.

[Caractacus]

Jim J.Jeffries once said that he had a "gift"which was that he was not hurt by any punches.
He was cut up around the eyes and mouth in various bouts and had his nose flattened by Bob Fitzsimmons,
but none of the punches dazed him.
He did say the hardest punch that he ever felt was a punch thrown by Joe Choynski.
The same Joe Choynski that KNOCKED OUT-COLD the 'Gavelston Giant"(i.e Jack Johnson).
I believe if Joe Choynski was in his prime,and had time to prepare properly,that he would also
have flattened Joe Louis(at any time in his career).

[Caractacus]

Jeffries must have been hard up to let himself be shown pushing a lawnmower as hired help.

Oh Golly,that comment was so funny that I forgot to laugh.
Shortly After he retired, Jeffries purchased 140 acres of primo land in Burbank California
In case you are some kind of a foreigner and dont know,Burbank is just a couple miles North of Hollywood
which in turn is part of Los Angeles California.
Whenever Jeffries needed a few more mill he just sold off some of his acres of land over the years.
BTW
Are you sure that you are not confusing Jim J. Jeffries with Jack Johnson who had to file for bankruptcy in 1927?

[Cap]

Corbett was a wizard compared to stone-age fighters like Sullivan, but by the 1930s boxing had evolved and passed him by. You just can't compare his old one-two to the speedy stuff that Conn showed on a regular basis. Joe Choynski was barely a light heavyweight and a careful reexamination of his career sheds new light on the real extent of his abilities. The whole knockout of a novice Jack Johnson is questionable, but possible given the times and the probable condition Johnson was in. As for Jeffries, he fought men thirty and fourty pounds lighter than him in almost all of his fights. Gus Ruhlin was one of the few big men he met in the ring, and he was never rated very highly. Jack Munroe, another big guy by the standards of the day, was never really committed to the sport. The first time Jeffries fought a good big man in his prime, Jack Johnson settled his hash. Even Jeff had to admit he probably never could have beaten the Johnson who humbled him at Reno.

Was Jeff a racist? No more than any other white American of that day. He never lynched a negro but he never publicly condemmed the practice either. He just didn't have too much contact with afro-americans to think about it. He did however, declare his intention never to defend his title against one.

[Caractacus]

Jeffries was probably less racist then Jack Johnson .
Jeffries was known as a good man to everyone whoever knew him over his life time.be they White,Black,Red or others.
Stop your revisionist BS tripe its gettin old anymore.

[Cap]

Johnson a racist? I dunno. He sure liked white women. He didn't ignore Langford, Jeannette and McVea after he won the title because of skin colour, he ignored them because he wanted to be the only black man to hold the world heavyweight title and didn't like the risk involved in fighting one of those three. He did defend against Battling Jim Johnson.

Jeffries drew the colour line because it was the politically correct thing to do at the time. I doubt he feared any man on earth.

[raylawpc]

Corbett was a wizard compared to stone-age fighters like Sullivan, but by the 1930s boxing had evolved and passed him by. You just can't compare his old one-two to the speedy stuff that Conn showed on a regular basis. Joe Choynski was barely a light heavyweight and a careful reexamination of his career sheds new light on the real extent of his abilities. The whole knockout of a novice Jack Johnson is questionable, but possible given the times and the probable condition Johnson was in. As for Jeffries, he fought men thirty and fourty pounds lighter than him in almost all of his fights. Gus Ruhlin was one of the few big men he met in the ring, and he was never rated very highly. Jack Munroe, another big guy by the standards of the day, was never really committed to the sport. The first time Jeffries fought a good big man in his prime, Jack Johnson settled his hash. Even Jeff had to admit he probably never could have beaten the Johnson who humbled him at Reno.

Was Jeff a racist? No more than any other white American of that day. He never lynched a negro but he never publicly condemmed the practice either. He just didn't have too much contact with afro-americans to think about it. He did however, declare his intention never to defend his title against one.

Jeffries never said that. It is one of the greatest misquotes in the history of boxing. But he never said it.

[scallum]

Jeffries was probably less racist then Jack Johnson .
Jeffries was known as a good man to everyone whoever knew him over his life time.be they White,Black,Red or others.
Stop your revisionist BS tripe its gettin old anymore.

Who claimed Johnson was racist?

[gp.]

Jeffries was probably less racist then Jack Johnson .
Jeffries was known as a good man to everyone whoever knew him over his life time.be they White,Black,Red or others.
Stop your revisionist BS tripe its gettin old anymore.

Who claimed Johnson was racist?

A lot of white racists have, in an attempt to justify themselves.

They don't seem to see that there's a difference between a member of an oppressed minority thinking the oppressors are bastards; and a member of the oppressors thinking that the oppressed minority are subhuman. There's a lot more reason and justification to the first, to anyone who isn't a fornicating idiot.

Caractacus, of course, is Il Duce, who named himself after one of the 20th Century's leading fascists. So you don't have to do much thinking about that one.

[punchoutsb]

Jeffries was probably less racist then Jack Johnson .
Jeffries was known as a good man to everyone whoever knew him over his life time.be they White,Black,Red or others.
Stop your revisionist BS tripe its gettin old anymore.

Who claimed Johnson was racist?

A lot of white racists have, in an attempt to justify themselves.

They don't seem to see that there's a difference between a member of an oppressed minority thinking the oppressors are bastards; and a member of the oppressors thinking that the oppressed minority are subhuman. There's a lot more reason and justification to the first, to anyone who isn't a effing idiot.

Caractacus, of course, is Il Duce, who named himself after one of the 20th Century's leading fascists. So you don't have to do much thinking about that one.

To be fair, most people use modern definitions of racist rather than thinking about the historical aspects.