David Tua was an all time great

[Bard of Boxrec]

All I know is Tua would have crushed Wlad. Even the "new improved" version.

[Othro]

All I know is Tua would have crushed Wlad. Even the "new improved" version.

In what ? A hot dog eating contest?

[polecateddy]

All I know is Tua would have crushed Wlad. Even the "new improved" version.

You really joined the forum 12 years ago and this is the sum of your insight?

[Bard of Boxrec]

I guess people just love Wlad. Good luck to them. Tua would have made him fold like a cheap deckchair. Or an expensive, well-manufactured deckchair with nice smooth hinges that allow the chair to fold away easily.

Actually that's a rather good analogy of Wlad. Expensive-looking deckchair that is serviceable when in place, with a simple, straightforward mechanism, and can be relied upon to fold when the necessary pressure is exerted.

Trouble is the chair is surrounded by lazy, flabby guys who just sunbathe all day and can't be bothered to put it away at night. The last time it was put away was when the resort had a reputation for attracting slightly more diligent holidaymakers.

[jay123]

Tua was the strongest and most durable fighter I ever watched. But his height and reach made him outboxed. He never be a great one, but for me the strongest and among the hardest hitters.

[Tuan_Jim]

I guess people just love Wlad. Good luck to them. Tua would have made him fold like a cheap deckchair. Or an expensive, well-manufactured deckchair with nice smooth hinges that allow the chair to fold away easily.

Actually that's a rather good analogy of Wlad. Expensive-looking deckchair that is serviceable when in place, with a simple, straightforward mechanism, and can be relied upon to fold when the necessary pressure is exerted.

Trouble is the chair is surrounded by lazy, flabby guys who just sunbathe all day and can't be bothered to put it away at night. The last time it was put away was when the resort had a reputation for attracting slightly more diligent holidaymakers.

This post merits a standing ovation.

I am on my feet, wiping a tear from my eye.

[polecateddy]

I guess people just love Wlad. Good luck to them. Tua would have made him fold like a cheap deckchair. Or an expensive, well-manufactured deckchair with nice smooth hinges that allow the chair to fold away easily.

Actually that's a rather good analogy of Wlad. Expensive-looking deckchair that is serviceable when in place, with a simple, straightforward mechanism, and can be relied upon to fold when the necessary pressure is exerted.

Trouble is the chair is surrounded by lazy, flabby guys who just sunbathe all day and can't be bothered to put it away at night. The last time it was put away was when the resort had a reputation for attracting slightly more diligent holidaymakers.

Well worded gibberish. I'm not very excited by Wlad's stranglehold on the heavyweight division. He's hardly just beating flabby heavies though. David Haye in part couldn't do a thing with him as he was matched for speed. He simply is rather good at what he does.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Since it has been out for so long the chair has got quite dirty over the years, but it gets away with it because of course it's such a marvellously constructed chair.

[Woldemar]

Wlad > Byrd > Tua

[Bard of Boxrec]

Wlad > Byrd > Tua

Styles > Make > Fights

[Tuan_Jim]

Wlad > Byrd > Tua

Norton beats Ali, therefore Norton beats Foreman.

You are an idiot.

[Woldemar]

Wlad > Byrd > Tua

Norton beats Ali, therefore Norton beats Foreman.

You are an idiot.

Иди нахрен придурок

[Woldemar]

Wlad win potencially fight against Tua one left hand

[Othro]

Watch Lewis vs Tua to see what Wlad would of done

[Tuan_Jim]

Wladimir is not Lennox Lewis.

Not even close.

[Woldemar]

Wlad much better than Oleg Maskaev

[Bard of Boxrec]

And if you lie on the chair, it might swallow you up and spoil you.

[Tuan_Jim]

Wlad much better than Oleg Maskaev

But Tua splattered Maskaev, so what does that matter?

And Oleg was much better than Corrie Sanders, who destroyed Wladimir.

The simplistic analysis that seeps through the broken English of these Wladimir obsessives is remarkable.

The man has been down twelve times in his career. He has been KOd by three fringe contenders. Now he's some sort of iron man that one of the most outstanding punchers of recent decades cannot hurt? Absurd!

[drunkenpiper36]

Wlad much better than Oleg Maskaev

But Tua splattered Maskaev, so what does that matter?

And Oleg was much better than Corrie Sanders, who destroyed Wladimir.

The simplistic analysis that seeps through the broken English of these Wladimir obsessives is remarkable.

The man has been down twelve times in his career. He has been KOd by three fringe contenders. Now he's some sort of iron man that one of the most outstanding punchers of recent decades cannot hurt? Absurd!

Tua could definitely hurt Wlad. Perhaps even finish him. But the question is, could he land on Wlad with any regularity to make it happen? Klitschko is ugly to watch and even a tad dirty with his holding tactics. But since 2005, he's been very hard to hit, and there have been a few opponents who he's faced in that time who in theory, should have been able to "hurt" him, but haven't been effective.

[Woldemar]

Maskaev better than Corrie Sanders?

I don't think so

[Bard of Boxrec]

Yes, the chumps he's been facing have found him hard to hit. But they're chumps. With the exception of Haye, who was at a massive size disadvantage and still landed the two best punches in the fight. That was the most unconvincing Wlad win since his 'rehabilitation'.

Tua would be the best guy Wlad has ever faced. He would rough up Wlad and beat him like Corrie did.

Look at what a bum like Sam Peter did to Wlad the first fight. Downed him three times, nearly stopped him. Tua would decapitate Peter.

Wladimir? Surviving 12 rounds of pressure from a hard hitting, iron-chinned beast? No.

Often I wonder how many times Wlad needed to be knocked out before people realise this. A very conceivable stoppage loss to Peter would have made four stoppage losses altogether. And somehow it's so baffling for people to imagine Tua beating him. The mind boggles.

[Tuan_Jim]

Maskaev better than Corrie Sanders?

I don't think so

Maskaev splattered Rahman, twice. Sanders couldn't complete seven rounds versus Rahman.

Maskaev on his worst night would not be comatized by Nate Tubbs.

Maskaev also KOd a fellow in the amateurs I sense you like, Vitali K.

[drunkenpiper36]

Maskaev better than Corrie Sanders?

I don't think so

Maskaev splattered Rahman, twice. Sanders couldn't complete seven rounds versus Rahman.

Maskaev on his worst night would not be comatized by Nate Tubbs.

Maskaev also KOd a fellow in the amateurs I sense you like, Vitali K.

A case can be made for Maskaev being better than Sanders. But Maskaev was beaten by some mediocre fighters too. And Sanders win over Wlad was better than anything he ever did. So I don't see any vast difference that sets them leagues apart.

[JGD]

Tua had power and an iron chin. He lacked imagination, intelligence and focus. He was easily flustered and when he was, he would stop punching. Bottom line, he was a talented and unpredictable commodity. I loved his destruction of over-hyped Ruiz, but I hated the time I lost and can't get back watching him walk around and not throw punches against other folks. He was far too STUPID and LAZY to ever come anywhere near greatness.

[polecateddy]

I always liked Maskaev. He did very well considering his debut on the bigger stage began with a slaughtering against Oliver McCall. He was brilliant in dealing with Rahman, but against Saunders although he'd have a chance, he'd have to be lucky to navigate his weak chin out of those early rounds.