Hopkins/Kovalev on for November

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Hopkins/Kovalev on for November

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Reported by Fight News, amongst others...

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/in-the- ... ber-255139


Provided Kovalev win this weekend, of course.
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Re: Hopkins/Kovalev on for November

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Gotta give the old man credit for wanting to take this fight. I am guessing he already has a plan how to neutralize Kovalev. We will see if Kovalev is the monster everyone has hyped him up to be.
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Badhusker wrote:Gotta give the old man credit for wanting to take this fight. I am guessing he already has a plan how to neutralize Kovalev. We will see if Kovalev is the monster everyone has hyped him up to be.
School's in!! BHop is going to expose this dude for what he is, there were many here saying how Hopkins was ducking/scared of him and now the fight is on.

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I predict that Kovalev wins by clear decision and that Hopkins holds excessively, runs excessively, fakes injury from phantom low blow or phantom head butt or something ridiculous in order to stall and buy time simply to last the decision. He did the same thing against Calzaghe and nobody ever talks about that. Hopkins was gassed and faked injury more than once late in that fight just to catch his breath in order to finish.

Flame away.
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I guess BHop got tired of boxing and wants out :) Even if Kovalev doesn't KO him, Sergey will outwork and outland him.
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Or he just didn't want to waste time for Mohammedi fight:

http://www.si.com/boxing/2014/08/01/ber ... tion-fight?
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I like it.
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Re: Hopkins/Kovalev on for November

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Is this going to be the first knockout loss of Bernard Hopkins? We'll see.
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PsychoGamer wrote:Is this going to be the first knockout loss of Bernard Hopkins? We'll see.
If (or I should've said "after" ?) Kovalev beats Hopkins, he can then just keep beating mandatories from 3 different ABC authorities until Stevenson crawls to him asking for a fight.
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ikorolev wrote:
PsychoGamer wrote:Is this going to be the first knockout loss of Bernard Hopkins? We'll see.
If (or I should've said "after" ?) Kovalev beats Hopkins, he can then just keep beating mandatories from 3 different ABC authorities until Stevenson crawls to him asking for a fight.
I wonder what you're going to say about Kovalev once he loses this fight? I guess he can go back to fighting the BOTM club and rebuild his hype.
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If he loses to the 50-year old, I would say he needs another coach, but it isn't gonna happen.
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ikorolev wrote:If he loses to the 50-year old, I would say he needs another coach, but it isn't gonna happen.
We'll see, the problem with most people is that they see this with blinded eyes; BHop can't win because he's too old and Kovalev hits too hard"...................that's all you guys see.

What you don't see is that Kovalev is a very basic fighter, he loads up on his power off his back foot. BHop will expose the flaws that Sergey has, he will make him pick that foot up and as soon as he does that's when he'll get hit 2-3 times and Nard will be out of there or at another angle avoiding the return fire.

This fight will resemble the KP fight without as much outgoing from BHop, he'll probably stink out the joint with 1-2 shot counters but he'll make Kovalev look like a student fighting a Master the same way Hopkins did Pavlik.

If all you have is power against a slick boxer like Hopkins then you've already lost.
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Lots of respect for Bernard. Dudes a warrior. This will be a good showcase win for Sergei. I'm guessing this will be Bhops last fight.
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Dawson, Pascal, and Murat had no problems landing on Bernard. When Kovalev does, he will finish him.
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Brut wrote:
ikorolev wrote:If he loses to the 50-year old, I would say he needs another coach, but it isn't gonna happen.
We'll see, the problem with most people is that they see this with blinded eyes; BHop can't win because he's too old and Kovalev hits too hard"...................that's all you guys see.

What you don't see is that Kovalev is a very basic fighter, he loads up on his power off his back foot. BHop will expose the flaws that Sergey has, he will make him pick that foot up and as soon as he does that's when he'll get hit 2-3 times and Nard will be out of there or at another angle avoiding the return fire.

This fight will resemble the KP fight without as much outgoing from BHop, he'll probably stink out the joint with 1-2 shot counters but he'll make Kovalev look like a student fighting a Master the same way Hopkins did Pavlik.

If all you have is power against a slick boxer like Hopkins then you've already lost.

Who's really blind if you're saying all Kovalev is is power? :confused:
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I hope Kovalev isn't distracted by this news when he fights tomorrow.
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Hopkins is ducking Kovalev ... :lol:

The only fight Hopkins is not eager to make is Ward, and that's for other reasons than fear of losing.

Should be a good fight.
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hulkmaniac wrote:I hope Kovalev isn't distracted by this news when he fights tomorrow.
Hopkins would have to be by the ring distracting Kovalev in order for him to lose to Caparello :)
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punchoutsb wrote:Lots of respect for Bernard. Dudes a warrior. This will be a good showcase win for Sergei. I'm guessing this will be Bhops last fight.
I have never been a fan of Hopkins, but I do respect his greatness. I applaud him for taking on this Monster at his advanced age of 49-50. I hope he earns a ton of money for this fight even though I don't like him. He doesn't need this and yet he is doing it anyway. I once again applaud his valor. I just hope he doesn't stink out the joint with his tactics on the way to a one-sided loss. If he wins this fight I would admit that I don't know the first thing about boxing after watching it as my favorite sport for nearly 50 years. I would be shocked.
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That's the thing with Hopkins. Can't count him out. If Hopkins can make Kovalev respect him early then he has a chance. If Hopkins can't get the respect Kovalev will stop him. Honestly though I don't see Hopkins beating Kovalev.
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meh.

Not excited about this fight, I was still hoping for Stevenson/Kovalev.

All due credit to the old man for taking on the guy everybody was saying he wouldn't fight but I hope this is his last fight.
He's an all-time great and all that stuff but I'm sick of the ageless wonder thing, it's long past time to be out with old, in with new.
For nearly 10 years we've been hearing what a big deal it is every time he wins because of his age, that's long enough.


oh..........and when he does lose people suddenly want to ignore his age and act like it's some grand accomplishment to beat him, his age only matters when he wins.
No...........................if you're going to buy into the age thing when he wins then you have to take it into account when he loses too.
If his age means he gets more credit for his wins when they happen then his age also means that anybody who beats him gets less credit because of the fact that they beat an old man.
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Things That Make You Go Hmmmm.... So... Super "Manager" Al Haymon couldn't get the deal done for Super Man Adonis Stevenson... hmmm...

I wonder if this fight (Hopkins v Kovalev) makes things go away for Golden Boy Promotions in regards to the Main Events Lawsuit over the Stevenson v Kovalev fight that Kathy Duva brought against Haymon et Al... (light heavyweight champion Adonis Stevenson, promoters Yvon Michel and Golden Boy Promotions, Showtime, and eight unnamed “John Doe” defendants.) hmmm...

Fat Dan just reported it on ESPN2 FNF, so it must be true, the fight that is; the Lawsuit analysis is WAY above Fat (and excruciatingly unshaven) Dan's pay-grade; and can I just say that the FNF Production sucks ass as much as HBO Producers? Zero Ring Girl time, jeez... how many times do I have to say it? More cowbell... er... I mean more Ring Girls! Por favor!
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Perseus wrote:He's an all-time great and all that stuff but I'm sick of the ageless wonder thing, it's long past time to be out with old, in with new.
For nearly 10 years we've been hearing what a big deal it is every time he wins because of his age, that's long enough.
Tell me about it. Every fricking time.......'what an incredible performance'.
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5burowz wrote:
Brut wrote:
ikorolev wrote:If he loses to the 50-year old, I would say he needs another coach, but it isn't gonna happen.
We'll see, the problem with most people is that they see this with blinded eyes; BHop can't win because he's too old and Kovalev hits too hard"...................that's all you guys see.

What you don't see is that Kovalev is a very basic fighter, he loads up on his power off his back foot. BHop will expose the flaws that Sergey has, he will make him pick that foot up and as soon as he does that's when he'll get hit 2-3 times and Nard will be out of there or at another angle avoiding the return fire.

This fight will resemble the KP fight without as much outgoing from BHop, he'll probably stink out the joint with 1-2 shot counters but he'll make Kovalev look like a student fighting a Master the same way Hopkins did Pavlik.

If all you have is power against a slick boxer like Hopkins then you've already lost.

Who's really blind if you're saying all Kovalev is is power? :confused:
What else does he have?? Speed?? Counterpunching?? Defense?? Does he set traps? Is his jab superior?? Does he use angles??

I've seen a bunch of his fights and I've seen nothing outside of the basic come forward throwing bombs off the back foot, I got it''''''you're impressed by his power and so is everyone else but that's all I see.

Make me see something more please!
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Perseus wrote:He's an all-time great and all that stuff but I'm sick of the ageless wonder thing, it's long past time to be out with old, in with new.
For nearly 10 years we've been hearing what a big deal it is every time he wins because of his age, that's long enough.
Tell me about it. Every fricking time.......'what an incredible performance'.
So, what's wrong with this?? Foreman was doing the same thing and a bigger deal was being made about him than it is about Hopkins, Nard is beating guys who are almost half his age and making it look easy. If Hopkins was a different nationality he would be elevated to a level above the average sports figure (pretend there isn't a color line in boxing if you want).

IMHO they're not celebrating BHop enough, these younger guys have nearly all the other advantages over him (speed, power, youth, endurance and a few others) and all he has is mostly his experience and a good chin and he's still making them look stupid.

He's an American and yet we have Americans who want to see him lose/fail, that's pretty pathetic and unpatriotic IMHO.

Y'all keep hating though, there will be some broken hearts when he beats Kovalev for sure.
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It's tiresome, I don't find anything exceptional about the performances themselves, and I wasn't following boxing when Foreman was fighting so that's irrelevant. Your comment about skin color is also just speculation.

You picked Sillakh to beat Kovalev yet you gave Kovalev no credit when he scored a quick, brutal KO, so your complaints about fighters not getting due credit are hypocritical.
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