palooka wrote:which world class boxers has he beat????.....
You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.[/quote]
Pot, kettle, black [/quote]
Lol I havent stuck the boot into Brook for losing though cos it hasnt happened. Also im not personally involved in Frankie Gavin's camp.
palooka wrote:which world class boxers has he beat????.....
You're sticking the boot in here as a Brook man.
Pot, kettle, black [/quote]
Lol I havent stuck the boot into Brook for losing though cos it hasnt happened. Also im not personally involved in Frankie Gavin's camp.[/quote]
Broomhall wrote:I have lost count of the number of times I have heard boxers say after a loss things like "I am going to do it right next time-get a sports therapist, nutritionist, strength conditioner etc on board"
These guys are elite athletes and many of them are still doing the same training/coaching routines they did in their old amateur days-blowing up between fights, starving/drying out to extremes before weigh ins, sparring when they feel like it, going for marathon runs etc etc and it isnt until the wheels come off that someone says perhaps we should try some of that modern sports science mumbo jumbo next time.
I would guess the problem is often because the boxer is the guy employing everyone else so no one wants to upset the apple cart.
Good post. People make a lot of excuses for him it seems too. For some reason this guy always had a very overly-optimistic fanbase.
I think the optimism to be fair came from Frankies amazing amateur career and there was no reason this could not translate into pro success-as a template (and also a brummie) Pat Cowdell who had a similar skillful, light punching style went to give the legendary Salvador Sanchez one of his hardest fights so there was no reason to think that Gavin could not go onto at least challenge for a world title.
You just think that when someone with his ability turns over his promotional team would analyse his lifestyle, his diet, his training, see what adjustments he needed to make-there is so much science in sports now, but it seems to pass many boxers by and it is amazing when you think of the sums of money involved.
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.
I was being a bit facetious Jim, it does happen over here as well - the Beltran bout in Scotland was unreal.
I hope Bundu gets his World Title shot and earns well, he's a very good fighter and was class before the bout and after. If he came back he'd get stitched up.
palooka wrote:Why is it imperative to have the rematch in Britain?
Cos travelling challengers often get stitched up in Italy when a fight goes the distance. Happens here too, of course. Gavin vs Bundu 2 would be close on the cards and Frank knows full well to get every advantage.
I was being a bit facetious Jim, it does happen over here as well - the Beltran bout in Scotland was unreal.
I hope Bundu gets his World Title shot and earns well, he's a very good fighter and was class before the bout and after. If he came back he'd get stitched up.
It'll be interesting to see if Frank does indeed bankroll a rematch, from the on-air comments, it seems Frank may need to cough up considerably more than last time. He paid just under ninety thousand quid (110 thousand euro's), and if my memory is correct the split is 60/40 to champion / challenger. So Bundu got fifty odd grand for Friday's bout, and next time "wants paying". Dig deep, Frank
Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
I see things similarly, there's still other issues to be sorted with Frankie, thankfully all of them either in the ring or with his training, but even in defeat, he answered a lot of questions on Friday.
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
Agreed. But he'll be all the better for this when he does go all the way.
Also agree he needs to be back in the ring quickly. Take a warm up fight or whatever... Just stay active.
jessi wrote:Gavin can and will be back ! He showed unquestionable heart and desire in there Friday and would of learned a lot from this, his still going all the way IMO, this has just held him up 6-12 months. He has to use his skills more and at the right times. Come on Frankie !!
Agreed. But he'll be all the better for this when he does go all the way.
Also agree he needs to be back in the ring quickly. Take a warm up fight or whatever... Just stay active.