Finaly a Referee that knows the rules!!!!!!!

[Chepppaaa]

when a boxer crabs and holds, the red deducts points, if he keeps wrestling than after some warnings or pointdeductions, than he DQ the boxer.


wladimir would have about 8 DQ losses in rescent years!!

[ReggieDiggs]

A ref would almost never if not never DQ the A side though so its not like he knows the rules so much as who to enforce the rules on. This ref in with Wladimir wouldn't see a thing wrong with Wladimir.

[Datsue]

A ref would almost never if not never DQ the A side though so its not like he knows the rules so much as who to enforce the rules on. This ref in with Wladimir wouldn't see a thing wrong with Wladimir.

[kidbazooka1]

I'm suprised by the amount of posters who think clinching excessively is not a big deal or call for DQ.

Fuuck that that's the kind of shiit the kills the sport. Everyone who holds as much as chaves did should be DQ nuff said.

[pugilisticprofessor]

Vic did not even see any illegal moves at the end, I rewatched it 10 times he wasn't even looking, he fell for Rios's antics and gave him the fight, if Rios was not yelling and bitching the fight would have went on, Chaves was coming on and Brandon knew it.

[Ilya Muromets]

when a boxer crabs and holds, the red deducts points, if he keeps wrestling than after some warnings or pointdeductions, than he DQ the boxer.


wladimir would have about 8 DQ losses in rescent years!!

Are you drunk when you write these things, or you just can't write any better? No, when a boxer "crabs and holds" the "red" does not deduct points. As for clinching, it is not illegal. If you want to make clinching illegal then change the boxing rules (as if there actually are any!). "Excessive clinching" is a judgement call, and that can be abused by both the boxers and also by crooked referees (as in Hatton-Mayweather). As for Wlad holding, in some fights he does and in some fights he doesn't, and check out the champs of the past if you're trying to make it sound like he's the only one who ever clinched on the inside...I mean "crabbed".

[ikorolev]

The problem is exactly that "excessive" is a judgement call. Wlad or Ward never had a point taken from them to say nothing of DQ even though their fights is sometimes painful to watch due to excessive clinching. Yesterday's fight was entertaining and had a lot of action in spite of clinching from both sides, so it should have gone on.

Maybe there should be a couple of additional judges counting number of times fighters initiate clinching and if both agree that some limit was exceeded by a fighter, a point is automatically taken.

[punchoutsb]

One mans "crafty veteran" is another mans "excessive clincher".

[Chepppaaa]

when a boxer crabs and holds, the red deducts points, if he keeps wrestling than after some warnings or pointdeductions, than he DQ the boxer.


wladimir would have about 8 DQ losses in rescent years!!

Are you drunk when you write these things, or you just can't write any better? No, when a boxer "crabs and holds" the "red" does not deduct points. As for clinching, it is not illegal. If you want to make clinching illegal then change the boxing rules (as if there actually are any!). "Excessive clinching" is a judgement call, and that can be abused by both the boxers and also by crooked referees (as in Hatton-Mayweather). As for Wlad holding, in some fights he does and in some fights he doesn't, and check out the champs of the past if you're trying to make it sound like he's the only one who ever clinched on the inside...I mean "crabbed".

exsseviv crabin and holding is illegal...or wrestling

[Chepppaaa]

The problem is exactly that "excessive" is a judgement call. Wlad or Ward never had a point taken from them to say nothing of DQ even though their fights is sometimes painful to watch due to excessive clinching. Yesterday's fight was entertaining and had a lot of action in spite of clinching from both sides, so it should have gone on.

Maybe there should be a couple of additional judges counting number of times fighters initiate clinching and if both agree that some limit was exceeded by a fighter, a point is automatically taken.

the whole povetkin fight was excessive....it was DQ all day

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Fight fans continue to destroy boxing.

The rules need to be enforced more. We aren't savages like the Romans who were entertained by death and gore ... at least I'm not. We want combat sports with rules. Fight fans AND THOSE SHITTY HBO/SHOWTIME COMMENTATORS keep asking referees to let more and more infractions slide for what, entertainment?

He should have DQ'ed both, and they should have had 75% of their purses taken back. I've seen active criminals and gangsters respect the rules and fight fairly. Yet, these guys who are making so much money and getting so much exposure continue to bend the rules and make the sport look sloppy.

If boxing sets a precedent that bullshit won't be allowed, you will see a change in fighters. Also, for all you savages, this would be a good thing. Less holding and cheating and more

[Badhusker]

I would be happy if the ref's gave one warning, then deduct a point. Another point for another foul, then the next foul is a DQ. The refs need to be consistent, so the boxers know how far they can go. You can't really blame the boxers if all they get is repeated warnings, a point here or there, etc. If they know the DQ is coming, they will clean it up.

Holding and hitting, hitting off the break, tackling, low blows, head locks, excessive holding, rabbit punches, elbows, kidney punches, head butts. One warning, one point, one point, DQ. In order for it to work, refs have to deduct a point when a foul happens. It shouldn't matter A or B side, or what round it is. I think it would be also a good thing to have a second ref ringside in case of disputed calls.

[Chepppaaa]

Fight fans continue to destroy boxing.

The rules need to be enforced more. We aren't savages like the Romans who were entertained by death and gore ... at least I'm not. We want combat sports with rules. Fight fans AND THOSE SHITTY HBO/SHOWTIME COMMENTATORS keep asking referees to let more and more infractions slide for what, entertainment?

He should have DQ'ed both, and they should have had 75% of their purses taken back. I've seen active criminals and gangsters respect the rules and fight fairly. Yet, these guys who are making so much money and getting so much exposure continue to bend the rules and make the sport look sloppy.

If boxing sets a precedent that bullshit won't be allowed, you will see a change in fighters. Also, for all you savages, this would be a good thing. Less holding and cheating and more

finally somebody with some sense and BI is right rios and the other guy should both have been DQd. either you box and if you wanna wrestle and hug and punch, than do a freakin street fight, but dont get in the ring.

Marquess of Queensberry Rules

No wrestling or hugging allowed

you guys understand what that mean?

every single wlad fight should have been ended as an DQ. the rules of Queensberry are the rules of boxing.

wlad hugged and hold and wrestled povetkin more, than actualy throw punches.

refs, fans and commentators mostly know s...t about boxing

[HeavyHitters]

Fight fans continue to destroy boxing.

The rules need to be enforced more. We aren't savages like the Romans who were entertained by death and gore ... at least I'm not. We want combat sports with rules. Fight fans AND THOSE SHITTY HBO/SHOWTIME COMMENTATORS keep asking referees to let more and more infractions slide for what, entertainment?

He should have DQ'ed both, and they should have had 75% of their purses taken back. I've seen active criminals and gangsters respect the rules and fight fairly. Yet, these guys who are making so much money and getting so much exposure continue to bend the rules and make the sport look sloppy.

If boxing sets a precedent that bullshit won't be allowed, you will see a change in fighters. Also, for all you savages, this would be a good thing. Less holding and cheating and more

I agree 100%! Holding and hugging in boxing is killing the sport. It's just ugly and cowardly to do so, in my opinion. I guess other boxing fans love it, or it doesn't bother them at all. I don't know. It bothers me though. And I could care less if other champions in the past did it or not. It just saps the joy out of a good fight. We need more referees to enforce the rules and DQ fighters who do it to much to their advantage. And if you think holding and hugging is not illegal, then why sometimes good referees takes points away for it, and sometimes DQ a fighter for it!?? If it was legal, and referees DQ'ed fighters for it, you'd have these referees being sued by boxing managers all the time.

[Ricky_]

Mayweather would probably have a losing record at Welterweight if ref's enforced the rules.