Brandon Rios - Is He Really Gonna Stay At 147?

[diddy]

Seriously? Why? He cant swim in the division. He was on his way to losing a guy who is not even top 15 in the division after losing to another guy isnt top 15 at 147.

He needs to buckle down and stay at 140. His career will be over within 2 yrs fighting these guys:


1 Floyd Mayweather Jr 1851 46(26)-0-0
1996 37 orthodox Las Vegas, Nevada, USA

2 Manny Pacquiao 1210 56(38)-5(3)-2
1995 35 southpaw General Santos City, Cotabato del Sur, Philippines

3 Juan Manuel Marquez 1123 56(40)-7-1
1993 40 orthodox Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico

4 Marcos Rene Maidana 810 35(31)-4-0
2004 31 orthodox Jose Leon Suarez, Buenos Aires, Argentina

5 Timothy Bradley 778 31(12)-1-0
2004 30 orthodox Palm Springs, California, USA

6 Shawn Porter 757 24(15)-0-1
2008 26 orthodox Akron, Ohio, USA

7 Kell Brook 637 32(22)-0-0
2004 28 orthodox Sheffield, Yorkshire, United Kingdom

8 Robert Guerrero 612 32(18)-2-1
2001 31 southpaw Gilroy, California, USA

9 Devon Alexander 610 26(14)-2-0
2004 27 southpaw Saint Louis, Missouri, USA

10 Keith Thurman 607 23(21)-0-0
2007 25 orthodox Clearwater, Florida, USA

11 Amir Khan 443 29(19)-3(2)-0
2005 27 orthodox Bolton, Lancashire, United Kingdom

There isnt one top 10 guy he has even a chance of beating. Hell, you can add Algieri, Provodnikov to the list. That's 13 guys right there who all would beat him handily. There are others, I just havent looked. All these guys would either just outclass him, outslug him or out box him.

At 140 in a couple of years it's gonna be a generally barren division when Danny Garcia and Matthysse move to 147. Hell, even Broner will have completely eaten his way out of 140 by then. Unless he's gonna target guys like Leonard Bundu and Josesito Lopez at 147, he's gonna drown badly.

Take some time off Brandon, maybe a year, hope the entire class of 140 has evacuated the division by then, and start working your way back up down there. Motherf*cker.

[ReggieDiggs]

Its where the paydays are at. Maybe after he gets some more $$$ & a few more asswhippings he'll move down, but I think for right now to make the $$$ he stays @ 147.

[kidbazooka1]

I agree Rios has no business at 147.

But I have no doubt in my mind that he can catch and beat khan who imo losses to any top 147lber aswell.

[gee]

I don't think he will stay at 147 because he wants to go down to 140. Maybe 1 more fight at 147 or between 147 and 140 before he will be down completely. Brandon can make 140, I just think that he needs to adjust his off-season lifestyle a bit and fight regularly. He will be good then.
The main reason for him to fight at 147 was the Pacquiao fight and Bob Arum.

From the 13 people listed there I don't see the point why he shouldn't beat at least some of them. Someone would need to call 911 for Khan after he got in the ring with Brandon. Alexander sometimes has problems with aggressive fighters. If Guerrero doesn't use his boxing ability he might get in some trouble as well. Provodnikov is beatable and the only way Ruslan wins is if he manages to put Brandon on his ass.

[tanibanana]

He should.. Money is right at 147-lbs. And I dont see him healthy at 140. A bout against Bradley would be a good win for him, thats if he can beat Bradley though.. Whuch us a good question.

[diddy]

Bradley would beat Rios so easily it would be ridiculous. Terrible fight.

[Badhusker]

Its where the paydays are at. Maybe after he gets some more $$$ & a few more asswhippings he'll move down, but I think for right now to make the $$$ he stays @ 147.

Speaking of $$$, he got nearly a million for the fight against Chavez. Hard to believe, especially since he isn't even close to an elite fighter. If he fights Provodnikov next he will need some money because he will have a longer stay in the hospital.

[diddy]

I cannot believe he got a million to fight Diego fn Chaves. That's lunacy. If that's the case he should be able to get similar $ to fight similar average fighters at 140.

[world ranked]

On the TR stream of the fight they said he would NEVER got back down to 140.

[ikorolev]

I cannot believe he got a million to fight Diego fn Chaves. That's lunacy. If that's the case he should be able to get similar $ to fight similar average fighters at 140.

Even for that kind of money, he couldn't suck it up and fight, but was whining hoping for the DQ.

[jockpunk]

I don't think rios even cares about winning at this point. I think he realizes that if he keeps making exciting fights he will probably get paid win or lose.

[Zhuge]

I don't think rios even cares about winning at this point. I think he realizes that if he keeps making exciting fights he will probably get paid win or lose.

I think he cared about winning that fight with Chaves and I think he realized it was a close fight which led to all of his belly aching to the ref. Had he lost, his stock would have fallen even if he makes exciting fights. That's not to say he still wouldn't get opportunities (like Jesus Soto Karass still does), but the pay would be lower.

[TexMex04]

I think he's already kind of shot IMO. Hes taken tons of punishment in his last few fights alone. He doesnt seem dedicated, he looked flabby this past fight. He's entertaining to watch, but a couple more fights taking this kind of punishment and he'll be done

[sucracristo]

-he's going to have a rubber match with alvarado, be it at 140 or 147. presumably
he is one of the "non top 15 welters" who rios lost to. rios ko'd the guy the first time,
dropped him and lost a very close decision in the rematch that alvarado
did a lot of running in, and would probably win the rubber match.
if khan is a top 15 welter, then most certainly alvarado is. alvarado would ko khan.
he would beat a few others at the bottom of the top 15, also.
-presumably the other non top 15 welter was chaves (wba/ibf top 15), and the cards
were all the same close score with one for rios and the other two for chaves. yeah,
chaves was outboxing him, but i still saw the fight as close and to say a guy cheating
his ass off was ahead on the cards before being dq'd is like saying i was beating usain
bolt in a sprint after shooting his kneecap off before being dq'd. don't get dq'd
next time and win a decision without blatant fouls and cheating and there won't
be any what if's and woulda shoulda couldas. there is a reason why chaves was
doing what he was doing: he did NOT want to fight rios on the inside.
-he would probably throw more punches and land more vs algieri than provo did.
-provo would be a winnable fight for rios as long as he didn't get stopped.
-khan backed out of a fight with alexander because it was too risky for him
and looked extremely shaky against julio diaz so i don't have nearly the same
confidence that he wouldn't get flattened by rios as the OP.
-not that confident in kell brook yet, either.
-not so sure he is any more competitive against the top 140ers than against the top welters,
but there are lots of ranked guys he can be comptetitive with.

[diddy]

He looks fat at 147. Which tells me he should be at 140 but has no discipline in his lifestyle, which should surprise no one when you listen to the dude speak. He sounds like a 14 yr old kid on the street corner.

[uptconnect]

I still hold onto hope that Rios fights Ortiz at some point.
It'll be a guaranteed implosion.

[diddy]

Rios would KO Ortiz, who is about the only guy more overrated than he is.

[uptconnect]

Rios would KO Ortiz, who is about the only guy more overrated than he is.

Who overrates Rios or Ortiz any more? Either one?
Not many.
But they both always entertain, and given their long history and deep mutual hatred, the matchup would be anything but boring.

[beatdown337]

Bradley would beat Rios so easily it would be ridiculous. Terrible fight.

What would make you so sure that rios would have a tough time with Bradley, when Bradley went to hell and back with provodnikov? Styles makes fights is always the case, but Bradley has a tendency to want to fight the other fighters fight and exchange even though we know he has little in terms of explosive power.

[beatdown337]

And for what its worth, I don't think its the weight that really matters. I mean, lets not forget that richar abril outboxed Brandon at 135.

[Zhuge]

Rios would KO Ortiz, who is about the only guy more overrated than he is.

Who overrates Rios or Ortiz any more? Either one?
Not many.
But they both always entertain, and given their long history and deep mutual hatred, the matchup would be anything but boring.

I actually don't think it would be that great of a fight. I think Victor would be beaten before the first bell even rang. Both guys are mentally weak, but at least Rios is interested in fighting while Victor has struggled with wanting to continue fighting for some time.

[diddy]

Bradley would beat Rios so easily it would be ridiculous. Terrible fight.

What would make you so sure that rios would have a tough time with Bradley, when Bradley went to hell and back with provodnikov? Styles makes fights is always the case, but Bradley has a tendency to want to fight the other fighters fight and exchange even though we know he has little in terms of explosive power.

Because Provodnikov is a bigger better stronger version of Rios? And Bradley decided to slug with him?

[sucracristo]

Because Provodnikov is a bigger better stronger version of Rios? And Bradley decided to slug with him?

rios would have thrown and landed more against algieri than provo did, guaranteed,
and probably would have at least gotten a knockdown. rios decimated alvarado in their first
fight, which is how provo got his title. provo was really inactive and hittable vs algieri and didn't
look like a bigger stronger version of anybody.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

What? What's the point of this topic? Rios physically cannot make 140 pounds. Have boxing fans gotten even more stupid?

You basically made a topic that says if Rios fights guys near his own size, he will lose. How do you rationalize this sentiment with weight classes.

Worse yet, you then list the top guys at 147 and say they'd beat Rios. Duh! he's not that good and never was. Rios still has tons of great fights that everyone wants to see. He just isn't a guy who would challenge to be the TOP guy in a division.

I'd love to watch
Rios VS Broner (Instant classic)
Rios VS Ortiz (Just for the beef)
Rios VS Danny Garcia (Especially considering the fact we don't know how Garcia will fight at 147.)
Rios VS Khan
Rios VS Alvarado
Rios VS Guerrero
Rios VS Bradley (If he can draw Tim into a slugfest. If not, it'll be an interesting 10-2 or shutout decision.)
Rios VS Maidana (Instant classic ... this fight is more even than people think.)
Rios VS Jessie Vargas (If/when Vargas moves up)
Rios VS Peterson (Classic revenge fight)

And there are a bunch of other guys who aren't really that dangerous to Rios's long term health. He'd probably lose, but he would be safe fighting Marquez, Alexander, Brook, Algeri (50/50) ...

Your point is stupid. The only fighters Rios really needs to stay away from is Floyd (embarrassment), Manny (health), Thurman (health), Porter (health), Provodnikov (health), and Mattysse (health).

[sucracristo]

What? What's the point of this topic? Rios physically cannot make 140 pounds. Have boxing fans gotten even more stupid?

both alvarado fights were at 140, the 2nd was last year.
he's has 2 at welter in the past 9 months and is not what you would call lean at 147