Fury fight off

[stevieb_8006]

Coneye is a true keyboard warrior, I have no doubt if he ever attended a show he wouldn't utter any of those terms. I've been to a few Khan fights, and if you shouted "come on you useless Paki" you would be kicked to death in seconds.

And your correct , I would'nt go to Khans fights and shout useless Paki ,,, and i would'nt go to a gypsy camp and call them all useless gypos , for the simple reason , in that context it would be OFFENSIVE

But when i came back of holidays , and bought my grandaughters husband a kaftan for his present , and he asked me why did you buy me one of them , to which i replied cos your a paki and i could'nt find a turbin , He did'nt take it offensive , and i did'nt take offense , when he laughed and said , its facking true you paddys are all thick has poo , Its called Banter , .

I also have a few gypsy mates , and i can tell ya , i've took the micky out of them , On occasion refering to them has thieving gypos , , and no offense taken , they give has good has they get, and don't get upset , it all depends on the context you say it in , and to who you say it . Its called sence of humor ,

Refering to Blacks has coloreds is now considered offensive to some , well fack em ,, I grew up and it was respectfull to call blacks coloreds . and i don't like refering to , black people has black people , because to me colored is much more respectful . I asked one of my colored mates , what does he think and his answer was , You always call me John,, but if you need an answer , he said, call me what you want has long has its not cant . .

I'm not racist , i like someone i like em , and i don't even think about , there race or creed . But I am sick to death of hearing do facking gooders continually sprout racist, racist, racist , whenever things don't go there way .

And like i said Furys pullout and problems only seemed to surface , after he saw his opponent in shape , in fact watch Kugans interview where he bangs on about it , .

But anyway its all lost on you , cos you need to earn your honary gyspy name, so carry on ass licking , and pretty soon you may get the name Tarmac Mickey , you'll earn it with all the ass licking

I'm not rascist, I've got black friends...

Don't normally do internet rows. But you sound a vile old dinosaur.

I bet when your gone, your grand daughter and her husband rip you to utter pieces. Did it ever occur to you that your 'mates' are humouring you cos your clearly confrontational and it's easier that pointing out what a nincompoop you sound?

Your 'banter' is all bile-fuelled and personal, and that speaks volumes about you. Repressed methinks.

Anyone who's a grand parent and types like how Danny dyer speaks, well...

[stevieb_8006]

"Banter" is misused as a term these days. Someone says something offensive, you ask them to explain themselves and they say it's "banter". Banter's supposed to contain an element of wit. Without wit it's not banter IMO.

[Counter-puncher]

"Banter" is misused as a term these days. Someone says something offensive, you ask them to explain themselves and they say it's "banter". Banter's supposed to contain an element of wit. Without wit it's not banter IMO.

often the preserve of passive-aggressive pudenda who haven't got the bottle or gumption to actually confront people (or to transcend the torpor of their own sad lives, which is ultimately the problem), so they try to mask it within said 'banter', then when called on it try to turn it around 'it was only a bit of banter/ you've got no sense of humour etc'. so this aggressive acting-out, masquerading as banter, becomes their petty revenge upon the world that thwarts them or simply refuses to indulge them.

[stevieb_8006]

And coneye will no doubt come back on here posting aggressive shite in self defence, about how we're all do gooders etc. but in his heart he'll feel deflated and hollow. He'll have a depressingly sad wank with a limp unloved cock, and thus his frustrating cycle of projected self hatred will continue.

[Boxerbeetle]

The majority of this thread should be deleted imo. I come on here to talk boxing, take the racism debate to the Off Topic board.

[TheCobra]

Coneye you sound like an absolute weapon. You also could probably do with a few English lessons, ironic when you seem like such a racist old fool. Good old banter hey, maybe one day you'll look in the mirror and realise what an obnoxious prick you actually are? But I guess that might take a few brain cells and even a tiny bit of self-awareness, which you clearly haven't got.

[CiganoBoxer]

Fack off ,, bunch of politicly correct wankers , Gypo is no worse a term , than Paddy , Jock , Limey , pommie , yank , , I think a lot of you need to take a facking t spoon of cement , and harden the fack up ,, Bunch of facking wankers screaming racial , its racial i'm sick of everyone being called racist , its the most common used word around , Oh mam , look at him, he's looking at me he must be racist , . A facking Paddys a paddy , a jocks a jock , a frog is a frog , and a square head germans a facking square head german , , just common slang with no malice , unless its soft cocks complaining .

What do you do print off your responses, then run down to the local red wreck to show the TRAVELLERS , how you stood up for them . And Mickey you may not of come out and said Peter stabbed Hughie , Because you said fack all , but you alluded to it , and how everything was a big secret , cos your in the know ,

And for what its worth , not that its worth anything , but my thoughts are that Tyson actually had 3 very good reasons to pull out , because if it was me or my fighter , with us being mere mortals .

Changing opponents ,at the last minuite is a good enough reason , after all we are talking profesional fighters here with a lot at stake .

Uncle , getting sick and going in a coma , after a minor op went wrong , if your close to him thats a good enough reason .

Wife having a miscarraige ,, DEFINETLY a good enough reason , I know because i have been there , .

But thats for mere mortals ,, Tyson is not, him and his uncle constantly bang on about , they would never pull out , Tyson has not come out and said anything, the only thing he said was i'm being set up, he's in good condition , THEN HE PULLED OUT , all his problems only seemed to effect him AFTER he saw Ustinov at the weigh in and seen the condition he was in , , prior to that , it was i'm a traveller , i'm a fighter . its what i do , i would die before i pulled out .

And even after all that they still have a go, and critisize Chisora , for not fighting with a BROKEN FACKING HAND .

How is this racist idiot not banned? Just constant racist shite being posted. Is the law on holiday?

I was thinking the same , where is the law ?
The joke is this f*cking idiot coneye seems to think that because he says these words in jest to his friends thats its then ok to use them in general toward strangers ? is a total backward c*nt or what ?
I have very good close friends that are from the settle community(more reliable than me own kind many of them) an they would never dream of using such racist words toward me , in fact i don't know one real gypsy man that even in a joke would put up with gorger people calling him Gyppo or Pikey !
If there was one out there tho he must of been one of them pretend gypsy traveller/hedge mumpers that u see born an bred on a council estate that coneye seems to be close mates with

[HomicideHenry]

Tyson Fury is a polarising figure alright, some real bile shown by a couple of posters.

'Gypo' is a term no better than 'person' or 'paki' or 'chink'; it shouldn't be used on a forum.

http://www.srtrc.org/faqs

[Gyppo and Pikey are extremely racist and offensive towards anybody from any of the Traveller groups as both of them have a history of being used to hurt and offend people. These words should never be used even if it is towards someone who is not a Gypsy or Traveller ]

I do think both words are very racist and harsh. However, there is a distinction between travellers and gypsies. Origin and all-around culture is different. Travellers originated in the aftermath of Oliver Cromwell's crushing campaign against Catholic Irish, be enslaving a million or more and forcing all others off the land. After that, they were nomads and adopted a way of life very similar to gypsies, even creating their own language. Gypsies on the other hand, originate from India and traveled into Western Europe during the early Middle Ages. They have their own language as well which is rather different than the language of the travellers. Over time, though, both were considered the same by outsiders and grouped together purely out of ignorance and racism. It is very rare to see gypsies and travellers marry into one another, or even be friends with one another; mainly because of their own racist feelings toward one another (i.e. 'travellers aren't gypsies', vice versa).

Of all the words, though, that are deemed racist by many travellers or gypsies today, but was once a name of pride among the people is that of "tinker", which simply meant you were a tinsmith or coppersmith by trade. In the olden days, outsiders brought their tin goods and copper goods to be mended by the tinkers, and while waiting would also buy home made baskets and blankets and other goods from the wives of the tinker. Over time, though, with laws prohibiting people from living by the roadways and travelling here and there without permits, and having to have permits to sell goods, etc. it essentially killed off the old lifestyle and ways. It also didnt help matters when cheaper, mass produced, crockery and bowls and cups were being sold, as opposed to the more expensive copper and tin crockery that was often handed down from family to family.

That being said.... why is it, on this site, that whenever the Fury's are brought up it always boils down to the same discussions and lectures and all around ignorance on the subject of travellers and gypsies? I think Tyson probably said it best, when he was on that show with Lennox Lewis and Frank Bruno, when he stated: "No matter what I'll ever do, I'll always be a big, dumb gyppo to alot of people," when he was asked how he felt about so many British and Irish had a love/hate relationship with him. To be a full grown man, and raised with the mindset that you are not a true Englishman or Irishman in the eyes of millions, despite being born there (as were two hundred years of ancestors), has to be one of the saddest things I have ever heard. To be a man 'without' a country is a very scary thought, in this day and age to have.

But, that being pointed out, I think just shows just how much family and relatives really do mean to gypsies and travellers alike. Without family and relatives, in this world where you are considered not a 'true' native of the land, you have nothing in that culture. So, its more than understandable as to why he pulled out against Ustinov because when you look at it the way I just said it, there's no amount of money or titles and awards out there to take you away from what truly makes you feel apart of the world.

[Counter-puncher]

^^^^ fair do's. not a single word there makes you seem barking fvcking mad.

[danconnollyeire]

"Banter" is misused as a term these days. Someone says something offensive, you ask them to explain themselves and they say it's "banter". Banter's supposed to contain an element of wit. Without wit it's not banter IMO.

Amen, brother