Tyson Fury

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Tyson Fury

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Who is Tyson Fury ? Future champion or overrated boxer ? Your opinions please ;-)
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He's the Dos Equis most interesting man in the HW division & he's still in his mid 20's so I think he's gonna get so many title chances over the next 5-8 years he's bound to win a title @ some point. A guy could win a title & still be overrated though so I think he's gonna win a title & still be overrated due to his persona.
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He wasn't supposed to do as well as he has so far according to how people viewed him a few years ago. At this point in time, I don't think he is much over or underrated, IMO.
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I use to be high on Fury. He was an exciting HW who fought often. Fast track to the present: He is now fighting maybe once a year and he backed out of a fight on the day of the fight without an injury. I have never seen that before and have been watching boxing since the 1970s.

I know Haye and Chisora have backed out 3 times with supposed injuries. But Fury could have kept busy against the Gaverns, Sprotts, Lewistons, and Molis of the sport. Why hasn't he?

His uncle got sick, his house caught fire, he was busy twittering nonsense as though he's a comedian not a fighter.
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What you see, is what you get with Tyson Fury. He's one of the most genuine people in all of boxing. He's outspoken, brutally honest, funny and has the sort of charisma that could power all of London. If he wasnt a boxer, he'd be a stand up comedian or the headliner of a WWE ppv. But I am glad he belongs to boxing, because in an era when champions are unknown, this man has garnered the kind of attention that very few have enjoyed and he hasn't fought in nearly two years. To me he's the real deal, because of his work ethic and he is one of the most agile giants I have ever seen in boxing, and can get up off the floor to win. Win or lose, he truly gives 100% effort. You cant same for others.
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HomicideHenry wrote:What you see, is what you get with Tyson Fury. He's one of the most genuine people in all of boxing. He's outspoken, brutally honest, funny and has the sort of charisma that could power all of London. If he wasnt a boxer, he'd be a stand up comedian or the headliner of a WWE ppv. But I am glad he belongs to boxing, because in an era when champions are unknown, this man has garnered the kind of attention that very few have enjoyed and he hasn't fought in nearly two years. To me he's the real deal, because of his work ethic and he is one of the most agile giants I have ever seen in boxing, and can get up off the floor to win. Win or lose, he truly gives 100% effort. You cant same for others.

I would go along with absolutely everything you wrote with one caveat.

2013- 1 fight
2014- 1 fight, so far.
That's depressing.
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Is he is on the verge of being what the boxing has supposedly always wanted; a massive, young and still developing, charismatic English-speaking white guy who can fight and who likes to get stuck in and have a war. He ticks way more boxes than Wlad and Vitali.....more outspoken, does not come from the far-flung Eastern bloc and puts entertainment first. And he can walk the walk (just like the K brothers) when it comes to the essential business of fighting. If he hailed from New York he'd already be off the richter scale.

Alternatively......he's a colossal big mouth, actually still pretty much unproven beyond the wafer thin British/Commonwealth domestic level, and so highly-strung and erratic in terms of his behaviour inside and outside the ring that it is only a matter of time before he is knocked-out or manages to get his licence revoked for some further act of gross stupidity.

And therein lies the attraction of Tyson Fury......
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He ticks way more boxes than Wlad and Vitali.....more outspoken, does not come from the far-flung Eastern bloc and puts entertainment first. And he can walk the walk (just like the K brothers) when it comes to the essential business of fighting. If he hailed from New York he'd already be off the richter scale.
The only thing he has over the Bros. K, is personality.
Otherwise, his conditioning is garbage and he can barely throw a straight punch.
(He even knocked himself silly with an uppercut of his own, once.)
Sure, he puts entertainment first. Because he's more of an entertainer than he is a boxer.
Hard not to put entertainment first when that's all you got.

I don't enjoy watching the Bros fight, but even Fury himself is mostly just fun to watch talk.
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As a potential future champion, I don't think much of the Brit.
Very hittable, average speed, chopping, wide shots and probably not as big a puncher as his KO log suggests.
Still, I find him entertaining in the ring and out.

Unlike the Eastern Europeans, Fury can be exciting style-wise and is light years ahead of them in personality and charisma.
I wish there were more Tyson Fury's in the heavyweight division. He doesn't offer elite skills, but I'd rather watch him get it on with Wlad, then witness the champ tackling the colorless Pulev, in what figures to be a snorefest.
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Tony1244 wrote:
His uncle got sick, his house caught fire, he was busy twittering nonsense as though he's a comedian not a fighter.
His pullout against Ustinov was because his wife had a miscarriage. A more than valid excuse. But I agree he should be much more active.
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He's a KO waiting to happen. Think David Price with less talent.
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Its funny coz he seems to get more love from Americans than Wilder
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handsofstone wrote:Its funny coz he seems to get more love from Americans than Wilder
He's a hell of a lot of fun to watch and his schtick is quite good. He's just not very talented, and even with the sorry state of the division it's hard to imagine him surviving anyone with a decent punch who actually decides to train prior to fighting him.

OTOH he is very large. And that attribute certainly helped him get by that frightening puncher, Cunningham.
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punchoutsb wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
His uncle got sick, his house caught fire, he was busy twittering nonsense as though he's a comedian not a fighter.
His pullout against Ustinov was because his wife had a miscarriage. A more than valid excuse. But I agree he should be much more active.
Sorry, but that is really hard to believe. The statement from a family member stated that his uncle had a blood clot form after a routine type of surgery. NO mention of a miscarriage at the time at all, or they would have mentioned it. New excuses?

Tell me, was this all a lie from his uncle then?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -Fury.html
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Badhusker wrote:
punchoutsb wrote:
Tony1244 wrote:
His uncle got sick, his house caught fire, he was busy twittering nonsense as though he's a comedian not a fighter.
His pullout against Ustinov was because his wife had a miscarriage. A more than valid excuse. But I agree he should be much more active.
Sorry, but that is really hard to believe. The statement from a family member stated that his uncle had a blood clot form after a routine type of surgery. NO mention of a miscarriage at the time at all, or they would have mentioned it. New excuses?

Tell me, was this all a lie from his uncle then?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing ... -Fury.html
Nope, maybe they felt the miscarriage was no ones business...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/others ... uncle.html
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Re: Tyson Fury

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First I've heard about his wife's miscarriage. Granted, it's a better excuse than an uncle's blood clot. But if Fury was a stock, I'd sell.

They say depression/anger is hereditary. I know his Father is in prison for purposely blinding someone.

It's always something for all of us. Spousal problems, your sister is freaking out, always something. It's how we react and Fury isn't reacting well. He is still young, talented, and funny but I see a dark horizon and I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Impractical Poster wrote:He wasn't supposed to do as well as he has so far according to how people viewed him a few years ago. At this point in time, I don't think he is much over or underrated, IMO.
I agree. I think most people rate him quite realistically. he just has that big mouth but I actually think that he doesn't take himself all that seriously. I think he just enjoys talking some smack and make some people pissed. he might say things like I'm the greatest or I would KO klitschko or haye inside 1 but I think he knows his ability quite well.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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He has some very good boxing skills but his defense makes me think that he always can lose via KO...
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Tony1244 wrote:if Fury was a stock, I'd sell.
I think he's a hold. You purchased him @ a cheap price most likely. He's all but assured of a title shot in the next year or three worst case. Sell when he gets the title shot. I definitely wouldn't be selling prior to a Derreck Chisora fight.
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I saw him fight Steve Cunningham and looked like sh!t. Just another big stiff that has no boxing skills and just size. He was show boating until Cunningham dropped him hard in the 2nd round. Then he proceeded to lay on Cunningham who was 40 pounds lighter than him until he tired and knocked him out.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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He's one of these fighters that lots of people say "He's overrated"
Then I wonder, "who exactly is overrating this guy when everyone doesn't rate him and calls him overrated?"

he has some obvious physical attributes that give him and upper hand over most fighters, he's huge and although not a massive one punch hitter, has obvious strength and enough power to do the damage.
I also think, for a man of his size, he can be pretty quick on his feet and with his hands when he's in decent shape. He also has an unoxthodox style and does things that no normal 6'9" man would do (is there such a thing as a normal 6'9" man?). In some fights he throws combinations a lot and tried to fight on the inside (sometimes when it isn't necessary)
there is also some degree of natural ability there and he can certainly rough it out a bit, as cunningham will testify

But he is his own worst enemy, between indiscipline in the ring and out of it. He can balloon in weight and appears to lose focus training.
and in the ring, he make silly mistakes and thinks it's alright to get put on his ass because he'll always get back up to win

I think if he stayed focused and sticks to a game plan, he has a good trainer and plenty of natural attributes to help him be one of the top heavyweights over the next ten years.
but ultimately, what will likely be his downfall will be inside his own head.

and i almost forgot, he's awesome on karaoke
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He has an extremely excellent achievement vs age ratio, and his innate physical attributes are extraordinary. That all spells very high potential. There is a ton of time for him to continue improving; so he could be a great fighter when it's all said and done. What I need to see from Tyson is improved speed in his hands, feet, and head movement.
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has enough to win a title in todays H/W division but defence and questionable attitude at times are potential weak points. But he has balls and is exciting to watch so should do well. BUT NEEDS TO FIGHT SOON.
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Is anyone going to tell me with a straight face that if Fury was slated to fight Gavern instead Ustinov that he wouldn't have backed out?

I think Ustinov was right. He saw fear in Fury.
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Re: Tyson Fury

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Tony1244 wrote:Is anyone going to tell me with a straight face that if Fury was slated to fight Gavern instead Ustinov that he wouldn't have backed out?

I think Ustinov was right. He saw fear in Fury.
His wife had a miscarriage, man. There are some things more important than boxing...
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