Jamie Moore shot in both legs

[DMMA]

I just find it very difficult to believe that close as the Macklins seems to have been to the Irish-one and any relatives/mates, that they didn't know about them. Even to have heard who they were and what they were. With a 'rep' like that family's surely the word would have been out.

In which case he should have run a mile. Shows poor judgment and bad taste imho. Assuming he did know about them.

[mickey1975]

I just find it very difficult to believe that close as the Macklins seems to have been to the Irish-one and any relatives/mates, that they didn't know about them. Even to have heard who they were and what they were. With a 'rep' like that family's surely the word would have been out.

In which case he should have run a mile. Shows poor judgment and bad taste imho. Assuming he did know about them.

He's took the easy option by the sounds of it. Massive connections and financial backing. I doubt Macklin could have done it on his own.

[lefty]

Macklin seems a clever fella too,he should know better than to get mixed up with these types,even if he knows or has seen nothing,its easy to get caught up in it,look what happened to Jamie

Probably sucked in by the money, glamour and excitement of that kind of lifestyle.

[coneye]

Macklin seems a clever fella too,he should know better than to get mixed up with these types,even if he knows or has seen nothing,its easy to get caught up in it,look what happened to Jamie

Probably sucked in by the money, glamour and excitement of that kind of lifestyle.

Your probably right , but the question is will he now see it for what it is , turn his back and walk away from it , somehow i doubt it , most would not of got involved in that lifestyle , in the first place ,

You may want to consider that maybee he has not just got into it , but has known and been a fringe contender for a long time , after all , i don't think you can just rock up on the door of gangsters , and say ,, Hello my names Macklin can you buy me a gym .

[mickey1975]

Macklin seems a clever fella too,he should know better than to get mixed up with these types,even if he knows or has seen nothing,its easy to get caught up in it,look what happened to Jamie

Probably sucked in by the money, glamour and excitement of that kind of lifestyle.

Your probably right , but the question is will he now see it for what it is , turn his back and walk away from it , somehow i doubt it , most would not of got involved in that lifestyle , in the first place ,

You may want to consider that maybee he has not just got into it , but has known and been a fringe contender for a long time , after all , i don't think you can just rock up on the door of gangsters , and say ,, Hello my names Macklin can you buy me a gym .

He is Irish, they are Irish and huge boxing fans. It's not like he was unknown to them. It could even have been their idea. Kinihan manages half the fighters who train there now.

[coneye]

Too True ,, Its definetly not uncommon for gangsters ,, bikie's ect , to hang and or be involved in the boxing scene ,not thats its a secret most know it .

But to hang out with one's, who's obviously so well known , If it was me i think i would reconsider . Cannot see this all ending with a fizzle , One would think this irish gangster fella is goig to be wondering ,, what the hell was someone doing hiding outside my house with a gun .

He might even get a bit paranoid about it .

[mickey1975]

Too True ,, Its definetly not uncommon for gangsters ,, bikie's ect , to hang and or be involved in the boxing scene ,not thats its a secret most know it .

But to hang out with one's, who's obviously so well known , If it was me i think i would reconsider . Cannot see this all ending with a fizzle , One would think this irish gangster fella is goig to be wondering ,, what the hell was someone doing hiding outside my house with a gun .

He might even get a bit paranoid about it .

He's probably constantly paranoid and will know exactly why they were there and their motives, hence the security. He will also most likely know who's behind it.

[coneye]

Probably , Anyway you put it though , its not a nice lifestyle , Not one i would like any way .

[DMMA]

Too True ,, Its definetly not uncommon for gangsters ,, bikie's ect , to hang and or be involved in the boxing scene ,not thats its a secret most know it .

But to hang out with one's, who's obviously so well known , If it was me i think i would reconsider . Cannot see this all ending with a fizzle , One would think this irish gangster fella is goig to be wondering ,, what the hell was someone doing hiding outside my house with a gun .

He might even get a bit paranoid about it .

That family and firm must have a lot of 'power' and probably reach too, even with bail, hearings etc. hovering over them. But, if it's right - as reported - that there have been fall outs with renegade Republican/ex PIRA types then he'll probably be as vulnerable as any of his enemies are.

Maybe they could do the world a favour and all wipe each other out. We could hire a stadium and sell tickets (I'm going for a box with prawn sarnies, and bullet proof glass), could get Luxembourg to sanction it.

[DMMA]

Kinihan manages half the fighters who train there now.

That's the thing that really concerns me. How in hell some of them got caught up with him without checking and knowing at least enough to scarper gets me. Even if not, with what's out there now they could not not know, unless they were the most blind and lazy followers of news, news relating to them.

I wonder if (hope that) the BBBC are doing some digging on this and either force fighters who want to work here and under their license to ditch him or, frankly, ban them, harsh but fair?

[expe]

Kinihan manages half the fighters who train there now.

That's the thing that really concerns me. How in hell some of them got caught up with him without checking and knowing at least enough to scarper gets me. Even if not, with what's out there now they could not not know, unless they were the most blind and lazy followers of news, news relating to them.

I wonder if (hope that) the BBBC are doing some digging on this and either force fighters who want to work here and under their license to ditch him or, frankly, ban them, harsh but fair?

It would be unfair to ban the fighters, however the simple solution for the board is to revoke or suspend the licenses of those connected to the running of the gym, Kinahan, Seamus and Matthew Macklin, along with anyone else who runs the place.

[DMMA]

Kinihan manages half the fighters who train there now.

That's the thing that really concerns me. How in hell some of them got caught up with him without checking and knowing at least enough to scarper gets me. Even if not, with what's out there now they could not not know, unless they were the most blind and lazy followers of news, news relating to them.

I wonder if (hope that) the BBBC are doing some digging on this and either force fighters who want to work here and under their license to ditch him or, frankly, ban them, harsh but fair?

It would be unfair to ban the fighters, however the simple solution for the board is to revoke or suspend the licenses of those connected to the running of the gym, Kinahan, Seamus and Matthew Macklin, along with anyone else who runs the place.

Sounds fair enough. Though if a fighter is asked to leave the son-of-baron's management and refuses, maybe they'd be asking for a ban?

[expe]

That's the thing that really concerns me. How in hell some of them got caught up with him without checking and knowing at least enough to scarper gets me. Even if not, with what's out there now they could not not know, unless they were the most blind and lazy followers of news, news relating to them.

I wonder if (hope that) the BBBC are doing some digging on this and either force fighters who want to work here and under their license to ditch him or, frankly, ban them, harsh but fair?

It would be unfair to ban the fighters, however the simple solution for the board is to revoke or suspend the licenses of those connected to the running of the gym, Kinahan, Seamus and Matthew Macklin, along with anyone else who runs the place.

Sounds fair enough. Though if a fighter is asked to leave the son-of-baron's management and refuses, maybe they'd be asking for a ban?

If the management contract is registered with the board, as I believe it's supposed to be, then I would assume that if his license was revoked, all management contracts would then become void.

[Counter-puncher]

the articles from the Irish newspapers really interested me, in the sense that their Crime reporting seems much more in-depth than UK media, goes into more detail on who's who and who does what, than I would expect from papers over here. anyone else think that?

[DMMA]

the articles from the Irish newspapers really interested me, in the sense that their Crime reporting seems much more in-depth than UK media, goes into more detail on who's who and who does what, than I would expect from papers over here. anyone else think that?

Yes, I thought that too. Give names and details or organisations and their 'work' even when the criminals are on bail and/or not yet proven to be neer-do-wells + give their journalists' names.

Brave, maybe a bit dodgy too. Here you might have to worry about legal comebacks or fight injunctions or consider libels/slanders, but there is a history of journalists and others being done in over in Ireland. Even if in the past it would give me pause for thought. But good on them.

[lefty]

the articles from the Irish newspapers really interested me, in the sense that their Crime reporting seems much more in-depth than UK media, goes into more detail on who's who and who does what, than I would expect from papers over here. anyone else think that?

Yes, I thought that too. Give names and details or organisations and their 'work' even when the criminals are on bail and/or not yet proven to be neer-do-wells + give their journalists' names.

Brave, maybe a bit dodgy too. Here you might have to worry about legal comebacks or fight injunctions or consider libels/slanders, but there is a history of journalists and others being done in over in Ireland. Even if in the past it would give me pause for thought. But good on them.

Yeah makes me think of Veronica Guerin (think that is the spelling) she was extremely brave and payed with her life for it.

[Gazmac81]

Yeah makes me think of Veronica Guerin (think that is the spelling) she was extremely brave and payed with her life for it.[/quote]


i watched the film about her, was a decent watch , defo dicing with death reporting on these type of characters

[Bricks]

All im saying is it's not the norm to be walking down the street and get shot in both legs. I think most people would agree with that, that's all.

I dunno .my uncle earnie had an egg stuffed down his ear walking down the street

[Bricks]

I'm sure if Buncey got plugged he wouldn't be romanticising over it.

He had a plug hair transplant in the mid 90s I suspect.

[palooka]

All im saying is it's not the norm to be walking down the street and get shot in both legs. I think most people would agree with that, that's all.

I dunno .my uncle earnie had an egg stuffed down his ear walking down the street

I told your uncle earnie to keep it quiet or he'd get the sausage treatment.

[Teddy's Toupee]

All im saying is it's not the norm to be walking down the street and get shot in both legs. I think most people would agree with that, that's all.

I dunno .my uncle earnie had an egg stuffed down his ear walking down the street

I told your uncle earnie to keep it quiet or he'd get the sausage treatment.

You really should stop stuffing your sausage in inappropriate places, palooka.

[Final round]

Excellent interview with Jamie talking about the shooting and the aftermath

http://gu.com/p/4xde9/tw

[magwitch]

Excellent interview with Jamie talking about the shooting and the aftermath

http://gu.com/p/4xde9/tw

thanks for that. Hope Jamie keeps making a good recovery....sounds like he was nearly gone and I'm glad he's still here!

[TerribleTerry]

Excellent interview with Jamie talking about the shooting and the aftermath

http://gu.com/p/4xde9/tw

thanks for that. Hope Jamie keeps making a good recovery....sounds like he was nearly gone and I'm glad he's still here!

Great article. I didn't realise how close he came to dying in all fairness.

Glad to hear he is getting straight back to training fighters - he has a fantastic career ahead of him as a trainer.

[Final round]

Excellent interview with Jamie talking about the shooting and the aftermath

http://gu.com/p/4xde9/tw

thanks for that. Hope Jamie keeps making a good recovery....sounds like he was nearly gone and I'm glad he's still here!

Great article. I didn't realise how close he came to dying in all fairness.

Glad to hear he is getting straight back to training fighters - he has a fantastic career ahead of him as a trainer.

Yes Jamie was in really grim situation, lying their in a foreign country not knowing exactly where he was, fractured pelvis bleeding out but still managed to get an ambulance to take him to hospital.
Tough man glad he's well.
I bet the sight of that Halloween mask still haunts him. scary stuff.