Is Brook the biggest welterweight in the world currently?

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 16:57

The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 16:57

The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.

TJ77 · Post by **TJ77** » 17 Aug 2014, 17:17

columbo wrote:The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.

What's your point columbo? He is a welterweight 147lb same as they are Porter had a bigger reach you wouldn't be trying to muddy the water would you mate?

ttornado · Post by **ttornado** » 17 Aug 2014, 17:33

Chris Algieri is slightly taller and with a greater reach but a LWW
Senchenko is also slightly bigger
Paul Williams was far bigger.
Brook seems a touch bigger than average for the natural welters

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:11

TJ77 wrote:
columbo wrote:The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.
What's your point columbo? He is a welterweight 147lb same as they are Porter had a bigger reach you wouldn't be trying to muddy the water would you mate?

Mate I didnt mean that, gods honest truth. It literally was just a question.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:12

ttornado wrote:Chris Algieri is slightly taller and with a greater reach but a LWW
Senchenko is also slightly bigger
Paul Williams was far bigger.
Brook seems a touch bigger than average for the natural welters

Senchenko is slightly taller but i'd say Brook is thicker set. Same goes for Algieri. Williams yeah, he was a freak.

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:14

If we use the boxrec stats for height/reach he's nothing special size wise.

5'9" and 69" puts him maybe a little above the average of the top guys right now though they have typically all come from way down (Pacquiao, Marquez, Guerrero and Mayweather started way below 147).

Ray Robinson is 5'10" (I seem to remember he towered over Porter as well)
Kamegai is 5'9" with a 71" reach
No measurement on here for Teerachai but he always looks VERY big

Spence is slightly bigger, Horn is about the same.

Not sure who is the "biggest" but Brook is't.

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:15

Boxing Prospect wrote:If we use the boxrec stats for height/reach he's nothing special size wise.

5'9" and 69" puts him maybe a little above the average of the top guys right now though they have typically all come from way down (Pacquiao, Marquez, Guerrero and Mayweather started way below 147).

Ray Robinson is 5'10" (I seem to remember he towered over Porter as well)
Kamegai is 5'9" with a 71" reach
No measurement on here for Teerachai but he always looks VERY big

Spence is slightly bigger, Horn is about the same.

Not sure who is the "biggest" but Brook is't.

Yeah I wasnt just including height. I meant both his height and his frame. Spence is another that is very big actually like you say.

Boxing Prospect · Post by **Boxing Prospect** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:17

I'd be VERY curious about Teerachai in all honesty mate. He looks huge here-

Also...Viktor Postol is MASSIVE at 140, how the hell does he not fight at 147? O_O

lefty · Post by **lefty** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:25

Boxing Prospect wrote:I'd be VERY curious about Teerachai in all honesty mate. He looks huge here-

Also...Viktor Postol is MASSIVE at 140, how the hell does he not fight at 147? O_O

WTF is really does look huge! Yeah i'd forgotten about Postol actually. He's one big mofo for 140.

crusader · Post by **crusader** » 17 Aug 2014, 18:34

TJ77 wrote:
columbo wrote:The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.
What's your point columbo? He is a welterweight 147lb same as they are Porter had a bigger reach you wouldn't be trying to muddy the water would you mate?

You're very sensitive about Brook.

Height/reach wise he's not especially big, but he's well-muscled for the weight. Not sure if he's the biggest though.

Bricks · Post by **Bricks** » 17 Aug 2014, 20:11

columbo wrote:The guy is huge. I mean people talk about Porter being big for the weight class but he looked tiny compared to Kell. Particularily in terms of height. The only other guys I can really think of that might be of a similar type of size are Soto Karass and maybe Thurman and even then in the latters case I dont think he's quite as big.

Porter is bigger but brook was one welterweight he couldn't manhandled as Kell is a very strong muscular welter.

Porter seems a unique combination of vinnie pazienza/tyson!

rm1 · Post by **rm1** » 18 Aug 2014, 03:51

Brook is big and strong for a welter and as I pointed out before the fight the Americans entirely missed this in their analysis of how the fight was going to go.

ShadrachSimmo · Post by **ShadrachSimmo** » 18 Aug 2014, 04:00

Mike jones always looked a big welter.

rhino222 · Post by **rhino222** » 18 Aug 2014, 05:57

I noticed porter was all upper body, legs like celery sticks.

Datsue · Post by **Datsue** » 18 Aug 2014, 06:45

ShadrachSimmo wrote:Mike jones always looked a big welter.

Another huge upper body/toothpicks for legs dude, well mullered by Randall Bailey (one of my favourite knockouts of recent years; the knockdown he suffered the round before, from the straight right, was possibly even better, but he got up & the bell rang).

Furey · Post by **Furey** » 20 Aug 2014, 12:38

Brook is fairly big for WW, but it's his natural strength that gets over looked.

I remember being told about what he can lift (can't remember the exact figures), but it was very very impressive for a man of his size.

Look at when Porter jumped in to get on the inside, Kell tied him up then when Porter attempted to move him he just didn't budge. Porter couldn't do anything with him.