Floyd Mayweather can't read.

[ReggieDiggs]

I just don't think people can say it's the “education system” who's at fault here.

What exactly is the EDUCATION system supposed to do if not educate?

[Broomhall]

Many of the worlds most intelligent and gifted people struggle with reading. Some to a great extent, some to a lesser extent

http://www.dyslexia.com/famous.htm

am not sure the ability to read is a good way to measure intelligence.

Its not a measurement of intelligence, but in the US, at least, its a huge roadblock to acquiring further intelligence. And sure there are more ways to acquire knowledge & other types of learning, but not being able to read would be a huge disadvantage in the US college system.

It would be, so it is fortunate that Mayweather found a way around the US college system which involves earning millions of dollars, buying fast cars, and doing pretty much what he wants most days.

I am wondering why so many are keen to knock a young man who has been so successful in his chosen career?

[palooka]

It's maybe because although they are envious of him, his ability and his lifestyle they have something they can mock him for and a way for them to feel superior to him?

[zero]

I just don't think people can say it's the “education system” who's at fault here.

What exactly is the EDUCATION system supposed to do if not educate?

If someone or their family decides for them to focus on boxing rather than attending school or learning who's fault is it?

[ReggieDiggs]

I just don't think people can say it's the “education system” who's at fault here.

What exactly is the EDUCATION system supposed to do if not educate?

If someone or their family decides for them to focus on boxing rather than attending school or learning who's fault is it?

So you're saying Floyd or other people who definitely can't read didn't attend school enough days to get to the reading part?

Playing the answer a question with a question game is fun ain't it?

[zero]

It's all to do with applying yourself. Mayweather applied himself to boxing I would assume...

[Chepppaaa]

he was not born into money

he wasn't born into a family of rocket scientists, either.
i think he wasn't even born with the mayweather name until the paternity test
results came back. mother was a drug addict.
floyd sr went to prison for narcotrafficking and was shot in the leg by floyd jr's
mother's brother while holding floyd up to block the shot.
floyd jr's aunt died of hiv from dirty drug needles.
jr lived with his grandmother a lot without either parent playing a role in his life
and when he was with his mother it was with lots of other people packed
in small apartments. i think floyd has never had anything going for him in
life but boxing, and he had the best chance at being a good boxer and made
the most of it.

thats a very very good point.

[ReggieDiggs]

It's all to do with applying yourself. Mayweather applied himself to boxing I would assume...

So you are saying maybe Floyd didn't "apply himself" all the way up to his senior year of high school before dropping out? If Floyd really can't read & he got to 12th grade before quitting how the f#ck was he passing grades up til then, wouldn't that be a failure of the education system for continual passing a guy who couldn't read?

[ReggieDiggs]

i think he wasn't even born with the mayweather name until the paternity test
results came back.

"Pretty Boy" Floyd Sinclair or Floyd "Money" Sinclair don't got the same ring to them I know that much.

Maybe "Freeway" Floyd Sinclair or Floyd "Skrilla" Sinclair.

[zero]

It's all to do with applying yourself. Mayweather applied himself to boxing I would assume...

So you are saying maybe Floyd didn't "apply himself" all the way up to his senior year of high school before dropping out? If Floyd really can't read & he got to 12th grade before quitting how the f#ck was he passing grades up til then, wouldn't that be a failure of the education system for continual passing a guy who couldn't read?

I'm not aware of what he passed in school. I'm only suggesting that someone who cannot read are somewhat responsible. The fact is if he wanted to learn to read he could. If he doesn’t who cares.

I just find it typical that it's never Mayweather fault it's everybody else’s.

[palooka]

And has May weather said it's someone else's fault?

[zero]

And has May weather said it's someone else's fault?

It's apparently the education systems fault.

[ReggieDiggs]

It's all to do with applying yourself. Mayweather applied himself to boxing I would assume...

So you are saying maybe Floyd didn't "apply himself" all the way up to his senior year of high school before dropping out? If Floyd really can't read & he got to 12th grade before quitting how the f#ck was he passing grades up til then, wouldn't that be a failure of the education system for continual passing a guy who couldn't read?

I'm not aware of what he passed in school. I'm only suggesting that someone who cannot read are somewhat responsible. The fact is if he wanted to learn to read he could. If he doesn’t who cares.

I just find it typical that it's never Mayweather fault it's everybody else’s.

I'm talking about the education system more than Floyd. I don't give a f#ck if Floyd can read either. The funniest thing is we don't even know if Floyd can or can't read. Everyone is talking about it cuz of 50 & sh!tty ad outtakes Floyd did in the am one day for a radio show.

The bottom line is the education system has sh!tty checks & balances & if a person gets pass a certain grade w/o the ability to read its the educational system's fault. That's a no brainer imho. If you can't drive for sh!t you ain't getting a drivers license, yet you can be illiterate yet get a diploma you can't f#cking read. That makes no sense.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I think the main person to blame here is Floyd Mayweather or his family. The education system never stopped him from learning or attending school. Has it ever been reported that Floyd Mayweather has a learning disability? If he hasn’t you can go back to school and learn at any age if he desires, he can even afford private tuition.

Seriously man, I don't think you know how ignorant this sentiment is. The fact that you and many people in the world think like that allows so many people to struggle through bullshit circumstances.

You are so far removed from reality it's not funny.

[pugilisticprofessor]

Ray Charles couldn't read either and couldn't see but he made more money than 50 can dream of and wrote better music too.

[zero]

I think the main person to blame here is Floyd Mayweather or his family. The education system never stopped him from learning or attending school. Has it ever been reported that Floyd Mayweather has a learning disability? If he hasn’t you can go back to school and learn at any age if he desires, he can even afford private tuition.

Seriously man, I don't think you know how ignorant this sentiment is. The fact that you and many people in the world think like that allows so many people to struggle through bullshit circumstances.

You are so far removed from reality it's not funny.

Please elaborate on what you are talking about? Floyd Mayweather is in a better situation than most people ever will. If he can't read who gives a shIt! Many people have struggled through life and had horrific circumstances to deal with. People are suggesting it's his upbringing (I mentioned this in earlier posts he focused on boxing) and the education system. I'm only saying he isn't blameless. If not being able read was a serious issue to Floyd Mayweather, he could easily address it, he doesn't therefore I would assume it's not an issue.

You know nothing about me or my life to even suggest this.

[crusader]

As his father served his time, Mayweather, blessed with speed, agility and an uncanny ring sense, put all his energies into boxing. He even dropped out of high school. "I knew that I was going to have to try to take care of my mom and I made the decision that school wasn't that important at the time and I was going to have to box to earn a living," Mayweather says.

This is Mayweather on his decision to drop-out of high school. Maybe the education system is partially responsible for his poor reading skills, but he made decisions that likely contributed to the problem.

Does anyone believe that he couldn't have learned to read in school if he really wanted to and put more time into it?

[SNG]

As his father served his time, Mayweather, blessed with speed, agility and an uncanny ring sense, put all his energies into boxing. He even dropped out of high school. "I knew that I was going to have to try to take care of my mom and I made the decision that school wasn't that important at the time and I was going to have to box to earn a living," Mayweather says.

This is Mayweather on his decision to drop-out of high school. Maybe the education system is partially responsible for his poor reading skills, but he made decisions that likely contributed to the problem.

Does anyone believe that he couldn't have learned to read in school if he really wanted to and put more time into it?

Partially? Reading that I would say totally. How can a kid just decide to drop out of high school? Also, he should have been able to read to a decent enough standard for life before high school!

[crusader]

Perhaps by not attending school any longer? I don't see how it's totally the education system's fault when he apparently didn't put any effort into school and decided to drop out of it. Applying oneself is a huge part of learning a skill.

[SNG]

Perhaps by not attending school any longer? I don't see how it's totally the education system's fault when he apparently didn't put any effort into school and decided to drop out of it. Applying oneself is a huge part of learning a skill.

So a kid can just decide he doesn't want to go to school anymore? A high school education is mandatory here, perhaps that's just a difference in culture I don't understand. As for learning to read, of course it's the school systems fault, they are there to teach him to read, they failed. He shouldn't have been allowed to leave primary school (or whatever the US equivalent is) without being able to read, it's a joke.

[crusader]

A trainer is there to teach a new boxer, but if the boxer puts no effort into training, regularly misses training, and quits at a fairly early stage, is it entirely the trainer's fault if the trainee becomes a poor boxer when they had the potential to be better than that?

From what I heard Mayweather can read a bit, I wouldn't say he's illiterate, and perhaps he developed those rudimentary skills in his early school years. The education system could be partially responsible for his poor reading skills due to poor instruction, improper grading, or so forth, but I don't know the fine points of how he performed or was instructed in school. What is fairly well documented is that he put very little or no effort into school while he was there and he dropped out at a point where there is usually still much important learning to occur. Putting the blame entirely on the education system is improper when learning to read is a joint effort, and one person doesn't seem to have put the effort in.

[SNG]

That analogy doesn't work. Boxing is a choice, teaching a child to read at a primary school level is a compulsory process. The teachers are there to engage the children and help the ones who need the most help, those teachers and the system failed him as a child.

[crusader]

The same logic applies to both cases in that each party plays an important role in reaching the outcome, but let's say the person was forced to box. Is the blame ENTIRELY on the trainer or is the boxer partially responsible for their limited development?

Again, learning a skill is a joint effort. The overwhelming proportion of Americans, even those from low SES backgrounds, can read. By Mayweather's admission he put virtually no effort into school while he was there and he eventually dropped out entirely; I'd be very surprised if he wasn't a stronger reader had he been more dedicated to school within the same education system.

Teachers are supposed to aim to teach and foster enthusiasm for learning, but they can only work within the limits the students set for them. As a high school student many teachers encouraged me to work harder and attempted to impart enthusiasm for learning to me, but I didn't care about school at the time and hence I regularly missed class, often didn't complete assignments, and did not develop many skills because of my lack of effort (would you say these teachers failed me and are entirely responsible for my limited educational development in high school?) When I got into university the quality of instruction was hardly better and professors put far less time into trying to help me, yet I sensed that my job prospects would be poor if I didn't try harder, so I put a lot of effort into school and became a straight A student, developed much stronger reading, writing, and analytical skills, and have been accepted into some of the most prestige universities in the world for advanced study. For the first time I was playing my part in this joint effort and the results showed.

[ReggieDiggs]

Does anyone believe that he couldn't have learned to read in school if he really wanted to and put more time into it?

This is silly cuz number 1 we don't even know Floyd's reading capability & #2 what kid likes to stfu & sit for 6hrs a day & learn. I think in general @ some point not knowing how to read is an embarrassing thing to admit you can't do & when that is is probably fairly early on cuz being different in school is hard for kids. What I definitely know is the educational systems job is to educate children & kids will be kids & avoid doing boring sh!t. The main thing here imho is children are supposed to show they are successfully learning by advancing though the system until they get a diploma. At some point, at some grade level there should be some requirement where the children are showing they have learned to read, among other things, & if the child can't why is he being advanced to higher grades? If lil Johnny is avoiding putting time into learning to read why would the educational system just push him through? That is the educational system failing not the child's.

[crusader]

Does anyone believe that he couldn't have learned to read in school if he really wanted to and put more time into it?

This is silly cuz number 1 we don't even know Floyd's reading capability

Then why isn't it silly for you to say his poor reading is due to the failings of the education system? Maybe his teachers did a great job but he didn't have the tools to absorb what he was being taught.

#2 what kid likes to stfu & sit for 6hrs a day & learn. I think in general @ some point not knowing how to read is an embarrassing thing to admit you can't do & when that is is probably fairly early on cuz being different in school is hard for kids. What I definitely know is the educational systems job is to educate children & kids will be kids & avoid doing boring sh!t. The main thing here imho is children are supposed to show they are successfully learning by advancing though the system until they get a diploma. At some point, at some grade level there should be some requirement where the children are showing they have learned to read, among other things, & if the child can't why is he being advanced to higher grades? If lil Johnny is avoiding putting time into learning to read why would the educational system just push him through? That is the educational system failing not the child's.

I think it's typical for kids to dislike school, but they usually grit through it and complete it. What person likes to go to work and do monotonous tasks 8-9 hours a day? I'm sure there are some, but I also think many do it because they realize the 'pain' is worth it. In Floyd's case he probably didn't think school was worth it because he saw boxing as his future, but that's his decision and it doesn't mean that his teachers didn't put in a reasonable effort to educate or keep him in school.

Nothing you've said is inconsistent with Floyd's poor reading skills being partially attributable to factors other than the quality of the education system he went to school under. Perhaps he was instructed poorly or passed when he shouldn't have been (though these are assumptions), but he conceded that he didn't put effort into school and decided to drop out, and as I've continually said developing a skill requires effort from the teacher AND the person learning it.

Did the education system fail me because my high school teachers, despite laudable efforts and solid instruction skills, couldn't convince me come to most classes, do most assignments, and develop my skills to their furthest, all of which led to poor grades?