Floyd Mayweather can't read.

[SNG]

Crusader, are you intentionally ignoring the fact that he left in high school? I was never taught to read after about the age of 8/9, they certainly didn't try to teach me to read in HS aged 11 onwards. Also, don't they start HS later than that in the US? 14 I think, for a kid to get to that age without being able to read is simply a failing of the system, there is no other excuse. He's been in the education system for ten years at that point, it's a crime that he wasn't taught to read in that time. Every single one of his teachers failed him, and I imagine many other children.

[tiny_acres]

I am ashamed of so many that just want to bash anyone who can not read.
This is just plain pathetic.
We all have our opinions of Floyd the boxer and the person.Most like or at least respect the
boxer.But we do not like him personally.But to make fun of someone for not being able to read
is just terrible even for the trolls on boxrec.

[crusader]

Crusader, are you intentionally ignoring the fact that he left in high school? I was never taught to read after about the age of 8/9, they certainly didn't try to teach me to read in HS aged 11 onwards. Also, don't they start HS later than that in the US? 14 I think, for a kid to get to that age without being able to read is simply a failing of the system, there is no other excuse. He's been in the education system for ten years at that point, it's a crime that he wasn't taught to read in that time. Every single one of his teachers failed him, and I imagine many other children.

That he left in high school is reflective of his lack of dedication to school, one which goes beyond the typical lack of dedication many students have. He clearly saw boxing as his path and didn't put his 'energies' into his education. Also, while people may not be taught to read in high school, continued education contributes to increases in their reading levels and perhaps Floyd could've read that promo more easily had he been exposed to additional high school level material.

You're not raising a new argument in the other part of your post, so I'll repeat myself; learning a skill is a joint effort and teachers can only work within the limits their students set. The education system may well have done a poor job, but his own lack of dedication to school and a chaotic family environment in which it doesn't seem like education was stressed shouldn't be dismissed as factors that stunted the development of his reading skills.

[SNG]

Crusader, are you intentionally ignoring the fact that he left in high school? I was never taught to read after about the age of 8/9, they certainly didn't try to teach me to read in HS aged 11 onwards. Also, don't they start HS later than that in the US? 14 I think, for a kid to get to that age without being able to read is simply a failing of the system, there is no other excuse. He's been in the education system for ten years at that point, it's a crime that he wasn't taught to read in that time. Every single one of his teachers failed him, and I imagine many other children.

That he left in high school is reflective of his lack of dedication to school, one which goes beyond the typical lack of dedication many students have. He clearly saw boxing as his path and didn't put his 'energies' into his education. Also, while people may not be taught to read in high school, continued education contributes to increases in their reading levels and perhaps Floyd could've read that promo more easily had he been exposed to additional high school level material.

You're not raising a new argument in the other part of your post, so I'll repeat myself; learning a skill is a joint effort and teachers can only work within the limits their students set. The education system may well have done a poor job, but his own lack of dedication to school and a chaotic family environment in which it doesn't seem like education was stressed shouldn't be dismissed as factors that stunted the development of his reading skills.

The job of teachers is to identify children like Floyd with his background and lack of enthusiasm for what ever reason, he may even simply be dyslexic. No kid wants to sit and learn to read, there are a thousand things they'd rather be doing, but this is the job of teachers. By the age of fourteen you should be more than proficient enough to be able to read for the rest of your life to a decent enough standard to get by. I would argue even younger going by my own experience.

[ReggieDiggs]

Did the education system fail me because my high school teachers, despite laudable efforts and solid instruction skills, couldn't convince me come to most classes, do most assignments, and develop my skills to their furthest, all of which led to poor grades?

If you did the minimum amount of work to get those grades & those grades are considered good enough to pass/graduate than no no one failed you.

What I'm saying is I believe reading to be a fairly basic thing to be learned in school. If you can't read by lets say 6th grade there is a mfing problem that goes beyond the kid not wanting to learn cuz he should be stuck in 6th grade til he's 30, not just pushed thru to 7th grade. That has nothing to do with the kid & everything to do with the educational system failing children.

Crusader, are you intentionally ignoring the fact that he left in high school? I was never taught to read after about the age of 8/9, they certainly didn't try to teach me to read in HS aged 11 onwards. Also, don't they start HS later than that in the US? 14 I think, for a kid to get to that age without being able to read is simply a failing of the system, there is no other excuse.

Exactly.

[crusader]

The job of teachers is to identify children like Floyd with his background and lack of enthusiasm for what ever reason, he may even simply be dyslexic. No kid wants to sit and learn to read, there are a thousand things they'd rather be doing, but this is the job of teachers. By the age of fourteen you should be more than proficient enough to be able to read for the rest of your life to a decent enough standard to get by. I would argue even younger going by my own experience.

It's an aim of teachers to identify students who need more attention and instill enthusiasm for school in them, but they can only do so much even if they are competent and do their job well. You're reducing what is at least a complicated multiparty issue to a one party issue.

Do you believe there are any conditions in which someone like Floyd's reading difficulties are due at least partially to factors other than a poor education system?

Did the education system fail me because my high school teachers, despite laudable efforts and solid instruction skills, couldn't convince me come to most classes, do most assignments, and develop my skills to their furthest, all of which led to poor grades?

If you did the minimum amount of work to get those grades & those grades are considered good enough to pass/graduate than no no one failed you.

What I'm saying is I believe reading to be a fairly basic thing to be learned in school. If you can't read by lets say 6th grade there is a mfing problem that goes beyond the kid not wanting to learn cuz he should be stuck in 6th grade til he's 30, not just pushed thru to 7th grade. That has nothing to do with the kid & everything to do with the educational system failing children.

Reading ability cannot be separated from the effort one puts into learning to read, so I think your last sentence is nonsensical. Obviously less effort is usually required to reach a lower level of competence, but putting no energy into school for whatever reasons is going to stunt the development of that competence at any level, and despite many kids being unenthusiastic about school there are students at every age who put in more or less effort than their peers. That doesn't meant that education quality isn't a factor that contributes to different literacy rates and more subtle distinctions in reading ability, but to say it's the only factor (which I think the logic of your arguments implies) is simplistic and ignores each student's situation apart from the quality of the teaching they receive.

You also seem to be flip flopping, because you just responded to one of my posts saying that it was silly to speculate about how well Floyd could learn to read (and you didn't respond to my reply), yet now you seem to be assuming that it should be a fairly basic skill for him to acquire.

[Badhusker]

If you ever read some quotes from 50 cent, he shouldn't talk too loud about someone else not being able to read well. If he can't write any better than he can talk, he should probably shut his mouth. Just remember what goes around, comes around. I am guessing he will end up regretting some of the things he has said.

I had to edit and fix a spelling mistake. You know, the to too two thing.

[ReggieDiggs]

The job of teachers is to identify children like Floyd with his background and lack of enthusiasm for what ever reason, he may even simply be dyslexic. No kid wants to sit and learn to read, there are a thousand things they'd rather be doing, but this is the job of teachers. By the age of fourteen you should be more than proficient enough to be able to read for the rest of your life to a decent enough standard to get by. I would argue even younger going by my own experience.

It's an aim of teachers to identify students who need more attention and instill enthusiasm for school in them, but they can only do so much even if they are competent and do their job well. You're reducing what is at least a complicated multiparty issue to a one party issue.

Do you believe there are any conditions in which someone like Floyd's reading difficulties are due at least partially to factors other than a poor education system?

Did the education system fail me because my high school teachers, despite laudable efforts and solid instruction skills, couldn't convince me come to most classes, do most assignments, and develop my skills to their furthest, all of which led to poor grades?

If you did the minimum amount of work to get those grades & those grades are considered good enough to pass/graduate than no no one failed you.

What I'm saying is I believe reading to be a fairly basic thing to be learned in school. If you can't read by lets say 6th grade there is a mfing problem that goes beyond the kid not wanting to learn cuz he should be stuck in 6th grade til he's 30, not just pushed thru to 7th grade. That has nothing to do with the kid & everything to do with the educational system failing children.

Reading ability cannot be separated from the effort one puts into learning to read, so I think your last sentence is nonsensical. Obviously less effort is usually required to reach a lower level of competence, but putting no energy into school for whatever reasons is going to stunt the development of that competence at any level, and despite many kids being unenthusiastic about school there are students at every age who put in more or less effort than their peers. That doesn't meant that education quality isn't a factor that contributes to different literacy rates and more subtle distinctions in reading ability, but to say it's the only factor (which I think the logic of your arguments implies) is simplistic and ignores each student's situation apart from the quality of the teaching they receive.

You also seem to be flip flopping, because you just responded to one of my posts saying that it was silly to speculate about how well Floyd could learn to read (and you didn't respond to my reply), yet now you seem to be assuming that it should be a fairly basic skill for him to acquire.

I'm not flip flopping cuz I'm mostly talking "in general" cuz I know mfers who got a sh!tty education @ schools & I've heard of numerous athletes who just got passed & passed w/o learning. The Floyd situation is a specific situation that idek if its proven. The guy was having a sh!tty time reading drops @ 6am. Sh!t I bet a lot of cats would have trouble reading radio show drops mad early in the morning so idk if that means he can't read well or he'd just been up all day & tired as f#ck. Saying Floyd is illiterate or near illiterate after watching one video where he's having a sh!tty time reading advertisements is like running into your boss @ 1am on a weekend & he's drunk & now you assume he's an alcoholic. Mighta been that guys first time drinking in years, mighta been his birfday, hell he mighta been on some strong ass cough medicine, who the hell knows. Thats why you might think I'm flip flopping cuz I'm talking about a bigger thing than just Floyd cuz I believe the education system is f#cked up.

Idk that a mutual effort has anything to do with what youre talking about. At a certain point, for example like I've been throwing out there 6th grade, if a child can't read how is he advancing? If a kid isn't applying himself to trying to achieve the tasks at hand shouldn't he be hemmed up in a grade multiple years til he's able to complete the tasks? If a kid isn't learning to read he shouldnt be moving up @ some point & if he is than thats the school system trying to pass the buck to the next teacher.

[Chepppaaa]

I am ashamed of so many that just want to bash anyone who can not read.
This is just plain pathetic.
We all have our opinions of Floyd the boxer and the person.Most like or at least respect the
boxer.But we do not like him personally.But to make fun of someone for not being able to read
is just terrible even for the trolls on boxrec.

you right, its not nice to make fun of someones disability.

and normaly i am totaly with you and against those kind of people who bully or make fun of someones disability.

but me personly, i make an exception with people i dislike. and yes, i do dislike floyd.

his bravado, his childish stupid way of seeing things, his unlogic logic. and he on top is somebody
who loves to bash people and get personal!!!!!!!!!!!

"fornicate my dad, he is jealous of my uncle"

"oscar is jealous of me, he is not the real boss of golden boy, richard schaeffer is"

to an worker of MGM, recorded before the press con maidana-mayweather, who was simply walking, maybe making an pause and walking peacefully by.

"you better work, or I will speak with MGM bosses and you'll get fired"

"again i forgot at who i am talking to brian kenny a dude that never laced up a pair of gloves in his life and who dont know nothing about boxing, a master of nothing"

brian kenny was respectful in that interview and only because brian said former p4p king, which floyd was during that time, because he officialy retired from boxing during that time period, because of that he has to become childish and act stupid.

"manny is a cheater" and 10000000000000000000 more reasons just because a prime pacquiao, was that good, that it only could be logic that somebody was that energized and powerful yet fast, that it only could be with steriods...

yeah I dislike the guy. he is not honest. he is quick to judge and bash others and he is simply dumb, but acts so intelligent which is so funny to me haha...

also I dont like people who judge basicly everything on money. and he is the kind of person "fornicate you, you are not rich, you know 0,0"...."i am the greatest, because i am the ppv cow, the super rich"

I would smile if some newly rich said that, a stupid 18 - 24 year old, who succedd from his death father millions, but a 37 year old adult man, sorry, classless, shame to me.

[crusader]

I'm not flip flopping cuz I'm mostly talking "in general" cuz I know mfers who got a sh!tty education @ schools & I've heard of numerous athletes who just got passed & passed w/o learning. The Floyd situation is a specific situation that idek if its proven. The guy was having a sh!tty time reading drops @ 6am. Sh!t I bet a lot of cats would have trouble reading radio show drops mad early in the morning so idk if that means he can't read well or he'd just been up all day & tired as f#ck. Saying Floyd is illiterate or near illiterate after watching one video where he's having a sh!tty time reading advertisements is like running into your boss @ 1am on a weekend & he's drunk & now you assume he's an alcoholic. Mighta been that guys first time drinking in years, mighta been his birfday, hell he mighta been on some strong ass cough medicine, who the hell knows. Thats why you might think I'm flip flopping cuz I'm talking about a bigger thing than just Floyd cuz I believe the education system is f#cked up.

Idk that a mutual effort has anything to do with what youre talking about. At a certain point, for example like I've been throwing out there 6th grade, if a child can't read how is he advancing? If a kid isn't applying himself to trying to achieve the tasks at hand shouldn't he be hemmed up in a grade multiple years til he's able to complete the tasks? If a kid isn't learning to read he shouldnt be moving up @ some point & if he is than thats the school system trying to pass the buck to the next teacher.

If we can't assume anything about Floyd's reading aptitude I don't see how it can be suggested that the education system is responsible for his apparently poor reading skills. Without making some assumption how do you know what his potential was or is, and therefore how can you assume that particularities of the education system prevented him from reaching that level?

I don't think one's efforts can be separated from the learning process. Learning requires attention and effort, and different levels of those qualities leads within the same person will lead to different levels of skill and knowledge development. A student's dedication to learning in school and their ability to learn will vary based on many factors, and in Floyd's case he clearly eyed a career in which he could succeed without being literate, he had the ability to make that seem like a realistic path, and he comes from a broken home in which it seems like education may not have been stressed and where there were probably many distractions that, along with the paramountcy of boxing, limited the time available for him to develop reading skills in school. The education system may well have played a significant role in this too in ways you've suggested, but I don't think it's correct to say that it's 'entirely' responsible, though you don't seem to be suggesting that (while SNG is).

In this discussion I'm assuming that his trouble reading on the radio show is generally reflective of his reading ability, though it may not be. If it's not perhaps he reads much better than he showed and was able to become a competent reader with the limited education he had.

[tiny_acres]

I am ashamed of so many that just want to bash anyone who can not read.
This is just plain pathetic.
We all have our opinions of Floyd the boxer and the person.Most like or at least respect the
boxer.But we do not like him personally.But to make fun of someone for not being able to read
is just terrible even for the trolls on boxrec.

you right, its not nice to make fun of someones disability.

and normaly i am totaly with you and against those kind of people who bully or make fun of someones disability.

but me personly, i make an exception with people i dislike. and yes, i do dislike floyd.

his bravado, his childish stupid way of seeing things, his unlogic logic. and he on top is somebody
who loves to bash people and get personal!!!!!!!!!!!

"eff my dad, he is jealous of my uncle"

"oscar is jealous of me, he is not the real boss of golden boy, richard schaeffer is"

to an worker of MGM, recorded before the press con maidana-mayweather, who was simply walking, maybe making an pause and walking peacefully by.

"you better work, or I will speak with MGM bosses and you'll get fired"

"again i forgot at who i am talking to brian kenny a dude that never laced up a pair of gloves in his life and who dont know nothing about boxing, a master of nothing"

brian kenny was respectful in that interview and only because brian said former p4p king, which floyd was during that time, because he officialy retired from boxing during that time period, because of that he has to become childish and act stupid.

"manny is a cheater" and 10000000000000000000 more reasons just because a prime pacquiao, was that good, that it only could be logic that somebody was that energized and powerful yet fast, that it only could be with steriods...

yeah I dislike the guy. he is not honest. he is quick to judge and bash others and he is simply dumb, but acts so intelligent which is so funny to me haha...

also I dont like people who judge basicly everything on money. and he is the kind of person "eff you, you are not rich, you know 0,0"...."i am the greatest, because i am the ppv cow, the super rich"

I would smile if some newly rich said that, a stupid 18 - 24 year old, who succedd from his death father millions, but a 37 year old adult man, sorry, classless, shame to me.

I'm sorry I do not understand bringing yourself down to that level being OK.Just because you don't like him.
You make yourself no better than the man you despise.

[SNG]

I don't think the school system is entirely responsible, where did I say it was? However you look at it though for him to progress through to high school without being able to read can only be considered a failure by all those teachers, and the educational system. Some kids have a terrible home life and need that extra attention and dedication from teachers, he clearly didn't get it.

[crusader]

Partially? Reading that I would say totally.

[SNG]

Partially? Reading that I would say totally.

Hmmm, I'm not sure what you're getting at...

[Chepppaaa]

I am ashamed of so many that just want to bash anyone who can not read.
This is just plain pathetic.
We all have our opinions of Floyd the boxer and the person.Most like or at least respect the
boxer.But we do not like him personally.But to make fun of someone for not being able to read
is just terrible even for the trolls on boxrec.

you right, its not nice to make fun of someones disability.

and normaly i am totaly with you and against those kind of people who bully or make fun of someones disability.

but me personly, i make an exception with people i dislike. and yes, i do dislike floyd.

his bravado, his childish stupid way of seeing things, his unlogic logic. and he on top is somebody
who loves to bash people and get personal!!!!!!!!!!!

"eff my dad, he is jealous of my uncle"

"oscar is jealous of me, he is not the real boss of golden boy, richard schaeffer is"

to an worker of MGM, recorded before the press con maidana-mayweather, who was simply walking, maybe making an pause and walking peacefully by.

"you better work, or I will speak with MGM bosses and you'll get fired"

"again i forgot at who i am talking to brian kenny a dude that never laced up a pair of gloves in his life and who dont know nothing about boxing, a master of nothing"

brian kenny was respectful in that interview and only because brian said former p4p king, which floyd was during that time, because he officialy retired from boxing during that time period, because of that he has to become childish and act stupid.

"manny is a cheater" and 10000000000000000000 more reasons just because a prime pacquiao, was that good, that it only could be logic that somebody was that energized and powerful yet fast, that it only could be with steriods...

yeah I dislike the guy. he is not honest. he is quick to judge and bash others and he is simply dumb, but acts so intelligent which is so funny to me haha...

also I dont like people who judge basicly everything on money. and he is the kind of person "eff you, you are not rich, you know 0,0"...."i am the greatest, because i am the ppv cow, the super rich"

I would smile if some newly rich said that, a stupid 18 - 24 year old, who succedd from his death father millions, but a 37 year old adult man, sorry, classless, shame to me.

I'm sorry I do not understand bringing yourself down to that level being OK.Just because you don't like him.
You make yourself no better than the man you despise.

I dont think so.

i dont like him, i make fun of him.

is it a nice act from me? no.

did i go down his level? for me no. why? because i mad fun of him, its not that I wished him something bad happening to him or tryn to steal or end his job, like he was threating this poor worker, who makes the same money in 1 year working, that mayweather does in 1 seconde of a ppv fight

sometimes wrong stuff about other who do wrong stuff has to be said, otherwise people wouldnt change and its me, its everybody included, but some do more wrong stuff, some do less, thats for sure.

[Impractical Poster]

It's really not that big a deal. The people rambling on about it just need to find some way to discredit Floyd.

Some of you may be able to read better than Floyd. But, how many of you can match him in business sense?

Haters gone hate


And damn you all for getting me defending Floyd. Trust me, I am not a supporter. But the ignorance around here is crazy.

[sucracristo]

for him to progress through to high school without being able to read can only be considered a failure by all those teachers

i failed curriculum 1 algebra my freshman year and had to go to summer school.
i don't remember learning to read in school. parents teach you that with kids
books ("cat in the hat" and "see spot run", then tougher stuff) before you ever go to school.
any parents in here? who taught your kids to read? this sounds so weird to me.
if a kid is otherwise healthy, he needs to be taken from his parents if he can't read and
understand the front page of usa today by the 3rd grade because that is a disaster.
no possible way you can make it to high school and not read. we know floyd isn't ESL,
so either he has dyslexia, didn't have his glasses that morning, or was tired and tongue tied,
in order to perform at that level that day if he was ever a high school student.
he would have to be "special ed" (disabilites) to have made it to high school with that
level of reading on a daily basis. i just don't believe there are kids in normal high
school classes (not esl, not special ed) who can't read. as far as "no child left behind",
(different poster) i'm not an expert on that, but i was under the impression that it tested
kids at several levels, and tested teachers, and graded schools, so not sure how testing
kids could be the problem with kids not reading. it just would show the ones who can't read.

[ReggieDiggs]

If we can't assume anything about Floyd's reading aptitude I don't see how it can be suggested that the education system is responsible for his apparently poor reading skills. Without making some assumption how do you know what his potential was or is, and therefore how can you assume that particularities of the education system prevented him from reaching that level?

Again like I said earlier I couldn't give less f#cks if Floyd can read or not. Thats f#cked up if he can't, but there are people out there who definitely can't read & they graduated or made it way past the age they should be knowing how to read. Thats more of what I'm talking about. Idk Floyd's situation with reading & idk that anyone in this thread knows cuz the proof that he can't read well is 50, whos upset with him, & a video @ 6am of him having trouble with a advertisement.

I don't think one's efforts can be separated from the learning process. Learning requires attention and effort, and different levels of those qualities leads within the same person will lead to different levels of skill and knowledge development. A student's dedication to learning in school and their ability to learn will vary based on many factors, and in Floyd's case he clearly eyed a career in which he could succeed without being literate, he had the ability to make that seem like a realistic path, and he comes from a broken home in which it seems like education may not have been stressed and where there were probably many distractions that, along with the paramountcy of boxing, limited the time available for him to develop reading skills in school. The education system may well have played a significant role in this too in ways you've suggested, but I don't think it's correct to say that it's 'entirely' responsible, though you don't seem to be suggesting that (while SNG is).

This seems pretty obvious & I agree with most of it although I don't understand why you think I'm disagreeing with it, but wouldn't you agree if a kid isn't able to do something as basic as reading he shouldn't be pushed forward to higher grades @ some point? Thats my beef. You can certainly say there are kids who are like "f#ck school" & refuse to learn & some still do enough to pass & fair enough with those kids, but if some of those kids can't read how in the hell are they moving forward to the next grade in school? Thats the education systems fault @ some point if they fail a kid forward.

This would be like letting a soldier just bs, hang out & not complete anything or just not completing everything during Army basic training & than throw his ass on the battlefield like good luck homie. No question the guy is gonna be effed cuz he didn't take his training seriously & ultimately he'll be the one to suffer, but the Army would be mostly @ fault for that soldiers death for just pushing him thru instead of making him complete the training since they understand the full implications of not being prepared for a battle & thats why the have basic training to begin with. This ain't quite as serious cuz I can't imagine many guys are dying due to not being able to read, but I feel like the analogy is fair.

[Badhusker]

It's really not that big a deal. The people rambling on about it just need to find some way to discredit Floyd.

Some of you may be able to read better than Floyd. But, how many of you can match him in business sense?

Haters gone hate


And damn you all for getting me defending Floyd. Trust me, I am not a supporter. But the ignorance around here is crazy.

Floyd appreciates your support!

[kidbazooka1]

Not suprised at all you can tell Floyd is not the smartest cookie in the jar every time he opens his mouth.

That's why when Floyds dumbass said Schaefer has a job in tmt schaefers eyes lit up and knew he would be able to screw Floyd over easier than he did Oscar.

[zero]

It's really not that big a deal. The people rambling on about it just need to find some way to discredit Floyd.

Some of you may be able to read better than Floyd. But, how many of you can match him in business sense?

Haters gone hate


And damn you all for getting me defending Floyd. Trust me, I am not a supporter. But the ignorance around here is crazy.

I'm not discrediting anyone, I'm merely pointing out that some of this falls on Floyd Maywether but yet again his defenders blame everybody else other than Floyd. Mayweather was offered an education (he wasn’t born and brought up in the Amazon), he never applied himself that's on him. I agree, the fact he earns what he does, proves it's not a hindrance to him.

[Impractical Poster]

It's really not that big a deal. The people rambling on about it just need to find some way to discredit Floyd.

Some of you may be able to read better than Floyd. But, how many of you can match him in business sense?

Haters gone hate


And damn you all for getting me defending Floyd. Trust me, I am not a supporter. But the ignorance around here is crazy.

I'm not discrediting anyone, I'm merely pointing out that some of this falls on Floyd Maywether but yet again his defenders blame everybody else other than Floyd. Mayweather was offered an education (he wasn’t born and brought up in the Amazon), he never applied himself that's on him. I agree, the fact he earns what he does, proves it's not a hindrance to him.

Honestly though, I don't really think it matters all that much to him. For many people, a focus on proper dictation and being able to speak properly when reading is attained to ultimately land a good job in order to make a decent living. Or if someone just finds an interest in it. Floyd is making quite a living. If he wants to further his education, more power to him. If not, he'll be just fine. All the fuss over his reading skills is silly. Obviously the man can read enough to understand.

[edeescam1]

He will end up just like Holyfield...no money and brain damaged with XX # of kids.

[uptconnect]

Floyd.
Floyd! Floyd? Floyd....
Hey, here's some more Floyd to go along with that Floyd of yours.



Floyd.

I can't wait for him to retire. Jesus Christ.

[Emil]

Floyd.
Floyd! Floyd? Floyd....
Hey, here's some more Floyd to go along with that Floyd of yours.



Floyd.

I can't wait for him to retire. Jesus Christ.

But what are you gonna post about when there are no Floyd threads in the current scene??