Heavies come in all shapes and sizes

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 21 Dec 2005, 09:40

http://www.fightnews.com/wbc_cancun2.jpg

check out the height difference between Toney and Vitali.....
Vitali looking pretty skinny there...

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Dec 2005, 09:44

Rick Waller would look skinny next to James Toney!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Dec 2005, 09:46

He does look fornicating skinny though....probably stopped the roids now he's not in training.

I very much suspect Vitali of being a steroid freak, I've seen film of him when he was in his early 20's and he was an absolute beanpole, weighed 205 lbs.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 21 Dec 2005, 09:52

jamesmcdonnell wrote:He does look fornicating skinny though....probably stopped the roids now he's not in training.

I very much suspect Vitali of being a steroid freak, I've seen film of him when he was in his early 20's and he was an absolute beanpole, weighed 205 lbs.

exactly what i was sort of suggesting in a not wanting to get myself in trouble sorta way..

Wlad is allegedly 100% on juice so i find it hard to believe Vitali isnt...

check out this picture of Wlad...... he is a beast

http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index. ... =1_005.jpg

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:09

Whats the medals Toney and Oleg got?

Haha whats Rick Waller upto these days?

Rahman don't look happy next to Vitali and can't blame him.

Rahman looks fat as well!

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:10

That sure as hell doesn't look like a natural physique, he looks like a bodybuilder.

It's incredible the change in Vitali's body from his early kickboxing days until now, add in the fact he was done for Steroid abuse as an amateur, and I think you have to ask some questions.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:12

Wlad don't look bulky like a bodybuilder does though.

Is suspicios that Vitali has gone skinny there though no way would he benear 250 on that pic now. Steroids can cause injury too I think and he had alot of them.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:28

Wlad looks like he's been pumping steroids.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:31

Have to admit the first thing I thought then looking at Vitali was he is off the juice. No question in my mind he was using, he has lost a lot of mass in a very short space of time. Plus all those injuries.....

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:35

Vitaly looks like he's taken up heroin and stopped the roids, he looks drawn in, never like that when he was boxing. Arnt you supposed to get fatter when you retire? Not skinnyer?

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:35

Yep, look how narrow his shoulders are compaed to Rahman, admittedly Rahman is a huge bloke, he has massive shoulders and back, but Vitali look a different person to when he last fought, and that's not that long ago.

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:44

Razor wrote:Vitaly looks like he's taken up heroin and stopped the roids, he looks drawn in, never like that when he was boxing. Arnt you supposed to get fatter when you retire? Not skinnyer?

Not when you bulk up with 'roids. I know a guy who used to use them like crazy and he was massive, a month after stopping he was about half the size it was unbelievable.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 21 Dec 2005, 10:58

Guy i knew in University. was about 6' 3... at aged 18 he was 12 stone.....
jumped on the gear, by the time he was 21 he had doubled his bodyweight... Obviously at 24 stone he wasnt all muscle but that shows the power of the juice...

I read an excellent article on the old east german regime and the amount the juice increased your performance (especially women) was extraordinary....

Margitta Gummell was a very good shot putter... and had been doing it for many years... her best was just under 18 meters... In the late 60s the DDR started its doping programme and kept records on everyone.
in 1968 June her best was about 17m50, after 10 weeks on the juice she had improved her best 20 meters and won the olympics and set a new world record...
we are talking a 15% improvement in performance in just 10 weeks.....

nickd · Post by **nickd** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:00

The downside, she now has a cock and a big set of hairy balls.

dondada · Post by **dondada** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:00

Can I just remind everyone of the safe beauty of the word 'allegedly'.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:02

nickd wrote:The downside, she now has a cock and a big set of hairy balls.

not far from the truth

J · Post by J » 21 Dec 2005, 11:04

knockout wrote:Guy i knew in University. was about 6' 3... at aged 18 he was 12 stone.....
jumped on the gear, by the time he was 21 he had doubled his bodyweight... Obviously at 24 stone he wasnt all muscle but that shows the power of the juice...

I read an excellent article on the old east german regime and the amount the juice increased your performance (especially women) was extraordinary....

Margitta Gummell was a very good shot putter... and had been doing it for many years... her best was just under 18 meters... In the late 60s the DDR started its doping programme and kept records on everyone.
in 1968 June her best was about 17m50, after 10 weeks on the juice she had improved her best 20 meters and won the olympics and set a new world record...
we are talking a 15% improvement in performance in just 10 weeks.....

MAKES YOU WONDER ABOUT A FEW OF THOSE OLD ATHELTES.

that geezer biord that was form the Czech reuplic KRATOZVILLIAVA or similar man she was scary biggest testes on a woman ive ever seen.

allegedly.

Marita koch was another onie who came from being an average sprtiner to breaking world records by ridiculous margins as well.

allegedly.

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:05

nickd wrote:The downside, she now has a cock and a big set of hairy balls.

Hahaha

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:12

Perhaps she could lend them to Audley.

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:13

knockout wrote:
jamesmcdonnell wrote:He does look fornicating skinny though....probably stopped the roids now he's not in training.

I very much suspect Vitali of being a steroid freak, I've seen film of him when he was in his early 20's and he was an absolute beanpole, weighed 205 lbs.
exactly what i was sort of suggesting in a not wanting to get myself in trouble sorta way..

Wlad is allegedly 100% on juice so i find it hard to believe Vitali isnt...

check out this picture of Wlad...... he is a beast

http://www.klitschko.com/gallery/index. ... =1_005.jpg

It also suggests its time John Ruiz did some sit-ups.

knockout · Post by **knockout** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:13

Agreed entirely J!!!
But we mustnt forget that the West were just as bad...

We had Fatima Whitbread
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_at ... 6_GH_R.jpg
USA had Flo Jo to name but two...

Carl Lewis's positive test was covered up by the US federation allegedly.

And check out my girl Valerie Brisco who won gold in LA when Koch and Kraticholova (spelling) couldnt compete due to political boycott...
A Natural beauty
http://www.sporting-heroes.net/files_at ... 8_GH_L.jpg

DavidPayne · Post by **DavidPayne** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:15

I've seen McDonnell with worse.

J · Post by J » 21 Dec 2005, 11:15

oh totally mate, flo jo is as dead a cert for juicing as any I can think of.

Poor old fatima i just think she was born a girl in a mans body kinda the opposite to James MC .

Razor · Post by **Razor** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:16

Toneys looking trim for the Rahman fight! :P
http://lightsout10.tripod.com/toneyautograph2.jpg

TerribleTerry · Post by **TerribleTerry** » 21 Dec 2005, 11:17

jamesmcdonnell wrote:Wlad looks like he's been pumping steroids.

Toney looks like he has been pumping chicken and mushroom pies...down his neck.

Allegedly.