Floyd's Major Flaw or Setback

[bnovelist]

This one is hard to overlook.....

I love Floyd for being the ONLY mainstream boxer that IS KEEPING THE SPORT AFLOAT regardless of what many may say! Floyd is doing it

BIG!!!!!! The way he markets and carries himself like a diva along the likes of Micheal Jackson, Carl Lewis, Luther Vandross,

Simon Cowell, P Diddy, etc.... he's a damn diva and he is our Tyson, Ray Robinson, or Ali of today

Mayweather Jr with the increasing rise of MMA is keeping our sport talked about!!!!!

The only major flaw I see from Floyd from a boxing purest... a die hard boxing fan.....is when there is legit challenge to his undefeated

record he will actually stay out of the picture as long as needed UNTIL that fighter loses and looks vunerable. That's a bad one......

He did it with the undefeated version of Miguel Cotto, Margarito, and Manny Pac. He literally sits back and waits for them to dispose of

themselves......

Are yall able to overlook this YAY or NAY?????????

[bnovelist]

How he operates is like Ali waiting and sitting back for Liston, Frazier, and Foreman to lose before fighting them....

Like Holyfield taking a mini retirement waiting for Bowe to exhaust himself and look beatable...

Or like De La Hoya waiting until 2004' to finally fight Trinidad after Tito lost his aura.

From a boxing purest HELL to the NO about Mayweather being the best....

But from a mainstream WWF/WWE/TMZ SPORTS YES Floyd is the greatest ever!!!

[NateJR]

I will give you that Floyd missed out on Pacquiao, but that's a 2 way street in my book. It's also well documented that Floyd tried to get the undefeated 140 lb. Cotto while they were both under the TR banner and Arum refused to make the fight claiming Cotto was "too green". That fight was the most intriguing after both of them were at 147 but at the time Floyd and Arum already had their differences (fresh off the split), Floyd was on his own and because of that the fight never materialized, but I still don't believe it had to do with Floyd being scared of Cotto. It's no coincidence that Floyd/Cotto happened the second Cotto became a free agent and split from TR.

Talking about someone like Margarito and trying to claim that fighting Margarito would have been a career defining win is plain asinine. Margarito might have been one of the top guys at 147 at one point in time but Floyd did fight in much more lucrative fights and was still fighting legitimate world champions. Margarito was a high risk low reward fight but lets be real here a win over Margarito isn't a career defining win and a win over ODLH at 154 will forever be a much bigger win and accomplishment.

Floyd has taken enough risks against the best to prove he's not scared to a take a risk. Could Floyd have fought tougher opposition for less money? Of course he could have, you could make that case for about any fighter with the pull Floyd has in the sport. But as mentioned Floyd has taken some big risks (yet calculated) and has still fought some of the baddest dudes in the sport to solidify himself as a bonafied great fighter.

Like I've always said, there are 2 fights that I feel Floyd missed that would have been career defining wins and that would have truly meant something in the final scheme of things. Those 2 fights were against Pacquiao after Pacquiao disposed of Hatton and Cotto and against Tsyzu at 140. Aside from those 2 fights I feel Floyd took the correct career course to help his overall earning potential while still fighting some of the best the sport had to offer.

[uptconnect]

Punk Drunked.


Classic.

[Impractical Poster]

How he operates is like Ali waiting and sitting back for Liston, Frazier, and Foreman to lose before fighting them....

Like Holyfield taking a mini retirement waiting for Bowe to exhaust himself and look beatable...

Or like De La Hoya waiting until 2004' to finally fight Trinidad after Tito lost his aura.

From a boxing purest HELL to the NO about Mayweather being the best....

But from a mainstream WWF/WWE/TMZ SPORTS YES Floyd is the greatest ever!!!

DLH fought Tito in 99.

[IKSRTFO]

How he operates is like Ali waiting and sitting back for Liston, Frazier, and Foreman to lose before fighting them....

Like Holyfield taking a mini retirement waiting for Bowe to exhaust himself and look beatable...

Or like De La Hoya waiting until 2004' to finally fight Trinidad after Tito lost his aura.

From a boxing purest HELL to the NO about Mayweather being the best....

But from a mainstream WWF/WWE/TMZ SPORTS YES Floyd is the greatest ever!!!

DLH fought Tito in 99.

I think the sarcasm is the point. None of those things happened.


Ali fought basically an indestructible Liston and Frazier and Foreman were undefeated.
Holyfield took on Bowe when Bowe was at his best.

[uptconnect]

I think the sarcasm is the point. None of those things happened.

"Impractical Poster" missed the point with his post?

[Brut]

I think the sarcasm is the point. None of those things happened.

"Impractical Poster" missed the point with his post?

He always does, but what can you expect from an Assclown? (rhetorical)

Why dumb ass Bnovelist keeps ASS-uming that it's Floyd's fault or trying to imply that he ducked Manny with all the information out there is beyond retarded. As mention the fight with Cotto was one that Floyd tried to make but Arum didn't want to give him that shot for the 10 million dollars Mayweather requested which btw did include Money having to fight Margarito in order to get that deal for Miguel at 10 million.

As far as fighting Manny, the one and only time they sat at a negotiating table to legally make the fight it was Pacquiao who ran away crying about being afraid of needles and how having blood drawn weakens him and it was Floyd's signature on a legal contract and NO Pacquiao never signed it!! At no other time did the two of them sit together with legal contracts in front of them to negotiate terms for a fight after that, all the other jibberish was just gossip and innuendo and never counted towards actual contracted negotiations.

Why Bnovelist continues to want to cast the blame on Floyd or anyone else for that matter is beyond me when it is clear that the only obstacle to making the fight happen at that time was Manny's unwillingness to submit to testing for fear of being caught doping or his fear of getting his ass whupped by Floyd,,,,,,,,,,it's either one or the other and NO you cannot have it both ways.

Hey dumb ass Bnovelist and the rest of you clowns who will try to say it's Floyd's fault; try and focus on the part where it states "Pacquiao's side declined the offer because they objected to the demand of the drug testing by Mayweather".

If that doesn't tell you who killed the fight and who really DUCKED who then this debate will continue on for those who are retarded and cannot comprehend what is stated or those who are unwilling to accept that Manny punked out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

[punchoutsb]

I think the sarcasm is the point. None of those things happened.

"Impractical Poster" missed the point with his post?

He always does, but what can you expect from an Assclown? (rhetorical)

Why dumb ass Bnovelist keeps ASS-uming that it's Floyd's fault or trying to imply that he ducked Manny with all the information out there is beyond retarded. As mention the fight with Cotto was one that Floyd tried to make but Arum didn't want to give him that shot for the 10 million dollars Mayweather requested which btw did include Money having to fight Margarito in order to get that deal for Miguel at 10 million.

As far as fighting Manny, the one and only time they sat at a negotiating table to legally make the fight it was Pacquiao who ran away crying about being afraid of needles and how having blood drawn weakens him and it was Floyd's signature on a legal contract and NO Pacquiao never signed it!! At no other time did the two of them sit together with legal contracts in front of them to negotiate terms for a fight after that, all the other jibberish was just gossip and innuendo and never counted towards actual contracted negotiations.

Why Bnovelist continues to want to cast the blame on Floyd or anyone else for that matter is beyond me when it is clear that the only obstacle to making the fight happen at that time was Manny's unwillingness to submit to testing for fear of being caught doping or his fear of getting his ass whupped by Floyd,,,,,,,,,,it's either one or the other and NO you cannot have it both ways.

Hey dumb ass Bnovelist and the rest of you clowns who will try to say it's Floyd's fault; try and focus on the part where it states "Pacquiao's side declined the offer because they objected to the demand of the drug testing by Mayweather".

If that doesn't tell you who killed the fight and who really DUCKED who then this debate will continue on for those who are retarded and cannot comprehend what is stated or those who are unwilling to accept that Manny punked out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

And yet it's acceptable to you that Floyd never asked for testing like tris before Manny...

Neither guy wanted the fight. Now Pac is on the decline and wants a payday so he seems willing, at least on the surface. Floyd still doesn't seem keen seeing as how he said he's only interested in a fight if Pac signs with Mayweather promotions...cuz yeah there's no chance of that happening.

[uptconnect]

I think the sarcasm is the point. None of those things happened.

"Impractical Poster" missed the point with his post?

He always does, but what can you expect from an Assclown? (rhetorical)

Why dumb ass Bnovelist keeps ASS-uming that it's Floyd's fault or trying to imply that he ducked Manny with all the information out there is beyond retarded. As mention the fight with Cotto was one that Floyd tried to make but Arum didn't want to give him that shot for the 10 million dollars Mayweather requested which btw did include Money having to fight Margarito in order to get that deal for Miguel at 10 million.

As far as fighting Manny, the one and only time they sat at a negotiating table to legally make the fight it was Pacquiao who ran away crying about being afraid of needles and how having blood drawn weakens him and it was Floyd's signature on a legal contract and NO Pacquiao never signed it!! At no other time did the two of them sit together with legal contracts in front of them to negotiate terms for a fight after that, all the other jibberish was just gossip and innuendo and never counted towards actual contracted negotiations.

Why Bnovelist continues to want to cast the blame on Floyd or anyone else for that matter is beyond me when it is clear that the only obstacle to making the fight happen at that time was Manny's unwillingness to submit to testing for fear of being caught doping or his fear of getting his ass whupped by Floyd,,,,,,,,,,it's either one or the other and NO you cannot have it both ways.

Hey dumb ass Bnovelist and the rest of you clowns who will try to say it's Floyd's fault; try and focus on the part where it states "Pacquiao's side declined the offer because they objected to the demand of the drug testing by Mayweather".

If that doesn't tell you who killed the fight and who really DUCKED who then this debate will continue on for those who are retarded and cannot comprehend what is stated or those who are unwilling to accept that Manny punked out:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boxing--fl ... fight.html

With my post I was just referring to a guy who's literally named "impractical poster" being corrected for missing sarcasm when he made his impractical post.


I long ago stopped sincerely discussing boxing in BNov threads, because it's like trying to swim in clay.
They're fun for other reasons though, for quotes like punk drunked.
And I also stopped jumping into the Floyd/Pac cess-pool vortex a while ago, so no thanks.

[Brut]

And yet it's acceptable to you that Floyd never asked for testing like tris before Manny...

Neither guy wanted the fight. Now Pac is on the decline and wants a payday so he seems willing, at least on the surface. Floyd still doesn't seem keen seeing as how he said he's only interested in a fight if Pac signs with Mayweather promotions...cuz yeah there's no chance of that happening.

BS!! Stop being in denial, Floyd SIGNED THE CONTRACT!! What part of that says to you that he doesn't want the fight?? Either you do not know how to comprehend what you've read or you are in denial to try and cover for Manny DUCKING Floyd!!

Which one is it??

Since Floyd signed the contract and Pacquiao didn't then I'd say Manny did not want the fight and he proved it by not signing to fight Mayweather and refusing the blood testing by crying like a little bitch about being afraid of needles and how having blood drawn weakens him.

I knew someone more pathetic than Bnovelist would come out to try and lamely defend Manny Pacquiao for his obvious DUCKING of Floyd.

Stick to the facts that are reported, Manny ran away from the contract, Pacquiao ducked and that's that!!

[punchoutsb]

And yet it's acceptable to you that Floyd never asked for testing like tris before Manny...

Neither guy wanted the fight. Now Pac is on the decline and wants a payday so he seems willing, at least on the surface. Floyd still doesn't seem keen seeing as how he said he's only interested in a fight if Pac signs with Mayweather promotions...cuz yeah there's no chance of that happening.

BS!! Stop being in denial, Floyd SIGNED THE CONTRACT!! What part of that says to you that he doesn't want the fight?? Either you do not know how to comprehend what you've read or you are in denial to try and cover for Manny DUCKING Floyd!!

Which one is it??

Since Floyd signed the contract and Pacquiao didn't then I'd say Manny did not want the fight and he proved it by not signing to fight Mayweather and refusing the blood testing by crying like a little bitch about being afraid of needles and how having blood drawn weakens him.

I knew someone more pathetic than Bnovelist would come out to try and lamely defend Manny Pacquiao for his obvious DUCKING of Floyd.

Stick to the facts that are reported, Manny ran away from the contract, Pacquiao ducked and that's that!!

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I know in your little Floyd-centric world he can do no wrong, so I don't expect you to look at it objectively. Neither guy wanted the fight.

What say you about Floyds newest comments? Seems like another demand he knows Pac won't accept, doesn't it?

[Gregk]

This one is hard to overlook.....

I love Floyd for being the ONLY mainstream boxer that IS KEEPING THE SPORT AFLOAT regardless of what many may say! Floyd is doing it

BIG!!!!!! The way he markets and carries himself like a diva along the likes of Micheal Jackson, Carl Lewis, Luther Vandross,

Simon Cowell, P Diddy, etc.... he's a damn diva and he is our Tyson, Ray Robinson, or Ali of today

Mayweather Jr with the increasing rise of MMA is keeping our sport talked about!!!!!

The only major flaw I see from Floyd from a boxing purest... a die hard boxing fan.....is when there is legit challenge to his undefeated

record he will actually stay out of the picture as long as needed UNTIL that fighter loses and looks vunerable. That's a bad one......

He did it with the undefeated version of Miguel Cotto, Margarito, and Manny Pac. He literally sits back and waits for them to dispose of

themselves......

Are yall able to overlook this YAY or NAY?????????

This is actually a pretty good post from bnov. And I agree, Floyd has really only fought opposition that has displayed vulnerability in their recent history. I don't blame him, it's just the way things worked out.

Even when Floyd took Hatton's zero; Ricky had recently looked very beatable when he fought Luis Collazo.

Nonetheless, Floyd is the best fighter of our generation. I think he has always fought the best and most logical opposition available, and he has never taken a light touch fighter just to pass the time while waiting for a 'superfight' [like every other great fighter in history has btw]. I truly believe it was Manny's team fault that the Floyd match-up never came to fruition at the ideal time.

Floyd is my favorite boxer. I think his hard work and dedication is above reproach. Hopefully we get to see him shutdown an undefeated 'unbeatable' monster who is 'the next ATG'. Like the ultra-hyped Kovalev or GGG, if either was close to 147.

Maybe Thurman can be that next great fighter with a couple more big wins? In the meantime, I think Manny has been choosing an easy path that is not representative of a true ATG.

[Brut]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I know in your little Floyd-centric world he can do no wrong, so I don't expect you to look at it objectively. Neither guy wanted the fight.

What say you about Floyds newest comments? Seems like another demand he knows Pac won't accept, doesn't it?

You talking about centric, look at you defending a DUCKER!! That is pathetic by anyone's stretch of imagination and you are so f*cking stupid you don't even have any shame in doing so. There's nothing to look at objectively, I posted the facts of which you did not even bother to acknowledge that Manny is the one who ducked Floyd but yet you say I have no objectivity.

Does it matter that Floyd never asked for the testing before? Hell no, what should matter more is the fact that Manny refused with the most whiniest and most biatched assed excuse ever made for a Boxer. Who cares about Floyd's newest comments besides a dumb as PacTURD like you?

Nothing since Manny ran away from the contract that Floyd signed counts as a LEGAL (a word that escapes your puny brain) negotiation so you pointing to it only goes to show how illegitimate your point is.

Manny ducks and you say I have no objectivity, lol.......you cannot even admit that he ducked when the facts are there in that article.

[punchoutsb]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I know in your little Floyd-centric world he can do no wrong, so I don't expect you to look at it objectively. Neither guy wanted the fight.

What say you about Floyds newest comments? Seems like another demand he knows Pac won't accept, doesn't it?

You talking about centric, look at you defending a DUCKER!! That is pathetic by anyone's stretch of imagination and you are so f*cking stupid you don't even have any shame in doing so. There's nothing to look at objectively, I posted the facts of which you did not even bother to acknowledge that Manny is the one who ducked Floyd but yet you say I have no objectivity.

Does it matter that Floyd never asked for the testing before? Hell no, what should matter more is the fact that Manny refused with the most whiniest and most biatched assed excuse ever made for a Boxer. Who cares about Floyd's newest comments besides a dumb as PacTURD like you?

Nothing since Manny ran away from the contract that Floyd signed counts as a LEGAL (a word that escapes your puny brain) negotiation so you pointing to it only goes to show how illegitimate your point is.

Manny ducks and you say I have no objectivity, lol.......you cannot even admit that he ducked when the facts are there in that article.

Ok, I'll try and spell it out for you a bit more clearly as I had forgotten that you are mentally handicapped:

The word "NEITHER" is an adjective. It means "not either; not the one or the other".

So when I say:

Neither guy wanted the fight.

That does not actually qualify as "defending" Manny. In fact it CLEARLY states that Manny (along with Floyd) did not want the fight.

I'll give you brief second to read that a few times...try sounding out the words you don't understand.

So back to it:

If Floyd 100% wanted the fight, he'd have backed off on the testing to make it happen. If Manny 100% wanted the fight, he'd have agreed to the testing. Neither guy backed off, therefore neither guy really wanted the fight.

Oh, and keep avoiding Floyd's new demand that Manny signs with his promotion

I fully expect you to not post in this thread again, as you have made a habit of doing after you get totally dominated by virtually any poster you try to argue with. Have a good night pops!

[ReggieDiggs]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I'm probably gonna regret getting into a discussion about the fight that never was, but you seem like a reasonable cat.

Why in your opinion does Floyd asking for testing for the first time in this fight matter? I could understand it more if Floyd completely forgot about testing vs future opponents, but it's been a mainstay since.

Plus it's rarely mentioned in the outrageous demands department with this fight, but Manny requested & Floyd agreed to a outrageous penalty (10mill per lb iirc) if Floyd came in overweight. Basically they were both playing the dick measuring game imo.

[SFW]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I know in your little Floyd-centric world he can do no wrong, so I don't expect you to look at it objectively. Neither guy wanted the fight.

What say you about Floyds newest comments? Seems like another demand he knows Pac won't accept, doesn't it?

You talking about centric, look at you defending a DUCKER!! That is pathetic by anyone's stretch of imagination and you are so f*cking stupid you don't even have any shame in doing so. There's nothing to look at objectively, I posted the facts of which you did not even bother to acknowledge that Manny is the one who ducked Floyd but yet you say I have no objectivity.

Does it matter that Floyd never asked for the testing before? Hell no, what should matter more is the fact that Manny refused with the most whiniest and most biatched assed excuse ever made for a Boxer. Who cares about Floyd's newest comments besides a dumb as PacTURD like you?

Nothing since Manny ran away from the contract that Floyd signed counts as a LEGAL (a word that escapes your puny brain) negotiation so you pointing to it only goes to show how illegitimate your point is.

Manny ducks and you say I have no objectivity, lol.......you cannot even admit that he ducked when the facts are there in that article.

Ok, I'll try and spell it out for you a bit more clearly as I had forgotten that you are mentally handicapped:

The word "NEITHER" is an adjective. It means "not either; not the one or the other".

So when I say:

Neither guy wanted the fight.

That does not actually qualify as "defending" Manny. In fact it CLEARLY states that Manny (along with Floyd) did not want the fight.

I'll give you brief second to read that a few times...try sounding out the words you don't understand.

So back to it:

If Floyd 100% wanted the fight, he'd have backed off on the testing to make it happen. If Manny 100% wanted the fight, he'd have agreed to the testing. Neither guy backed off, therefore neither guy really wanted the fight.

Oh, and keep avoiding Floyd's new demand that Manny signs with his promotion

I fully expect you to not post in this thread again, as you have made a habit of doing after you get totally dominated by virtually any poster you try to argue with. Have a good night pops!

and boom goes the dynamite.

[punchoutsb]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I'm probably gonna regret getting into a discussion about the fight that never was, but you seem like a reasonable cat.

Why in your opinion does Floyd asking for testing for the first time in this fight matter? I could understand it more if Floyd completely forgot about testing vs future opponents, but it's been a mainstay since.

Plus it's rarely mentioned in the outrageous demands department with this fight, but Manny requested & Floyd agreed to a outrageous penalty (10mill per lb iirc) if Floyd came in overweight. Basically they were both playing the dick measuring game imo.

Your last sentence is exactly what I believe.

Both guys wanted to be the A guy. At that time they were both pretty even in the public eye. They were dick measuring and it cost the fans a great fight. Floyd had been very open about thinking Manny was on PED's. If Manny agrees, tests clean and gets dominated it sure makes his previous wins look suspect. If he fails then Floyd wins again. Floyd's ego wouldnt let him back off even though he'd have been favored over Manny at any point in their careers. This verbal dick off contest wouldn't allow either guy to back off which is why I blame both. It would have been EASY for either to back off...but they didn't.

[tiny_acres]

Fact: Floyd never asked for this kind of testing before Many. All he had to do was step back and he didn't.

I'm probably gonna regret getting into a discussion about the fight that never was, but you seem like a reasonable cat.

Why in your opinion does Floyd asking for testing for the first time in this fight matter? I could understand it more if Floyd completely forgot about testing vs future opponents, but it's been a mainstay since.

Plus it's rarely mentioned in the outrageous demands department with this fight, but Manny requested & Floyd agreed to a outrageous penalty (10mill per lb iirc) if Floyd came in overweight. Basically they were both playing the dick measuring game imo.

Your last sentence is exactly what I believe.

Both guys wanted to be the A guy. At that time they were both pretty even in the public eye. They were dick measuring and it cost the fans a great fight. Floyd had been very open about thinking Manny was on PED's. If Manny agrees, tests clean and gets dominated it sure makes his previous wins look suspect. If he fails then Floyd wins again. Floyd's ego wouldnt let him back off even though he'd have been favored over Manny at any point in their careers. This verbal dick off contest wouldn't allow either guy to back off which is why I blame both. It would have been EASY for either to back off...but they didn't.

I also blame both.And for most of the same reasons

[Brut]

There was no dick measuring contest, Floyd called Manny's bluff that he wouldn't fight him and then Pacquiao balked after Floyd AGREED to his every demand. Manny did not agree to the one demand that Floyd had and that's what killed the fight, it's just a damn shame that the PacTURDS here will not accept this fact.

Floyd agreed to the weight
Floyd agreed to the 50-50
Floyd agreed to the 10 million dollar penalty if he came in overweight
Floyd agreed to doing the same testing that he was asking Manny to do

Manny did not agree to the testing.

How does that measure up to a dick measuring contest??

The bottom line/at the end of the day is that Floyd signed for the fight and Manny didn't even after Floyd met all his demands. The proof is in the pudding, Pacquiao ducked!!

Case closed!!!

[punchoutsb]

Floyd signed a contract that included the testing. If he wanted the fight he could have backed off. He just didn't want to let Manny call the shots.

Neither guy wanted the fight.

[Brut]

Floyd signed a contract that included the testing. If he wanted the fight he could have backed off. He just didn't want to let Manny call the shots.

Neither guy wanted the fight.

You're not objective at all, I posted a list of things that Floyd agreed to that Manny called the "shots" on and I posted the only one that Floyd asked for and yet your lack of objectivity blinds you to seeing who was actually calling the shots.

Why should he back off from the one thing he asked for and allow Manny to have the entire list of things that he actually signed and agreed to??

[punchoutsb]

So he agreed to fight at the weight they were both at and to make that weight?

Wow! Stop the presses!

Floyd's a pro. He only misses weight if he wants to, so the penalty meant nil.

The drug testing was the buster, and neither man budged when both had the chance. Therefore neither man wanted the fight.

[Brut]

So he agreed to fight at the weight they were both at and to make that weight?

Wow! Stop the presses!

Floyd's a pro. He only misses weight if he wants to, so the penalty meant nil.

The drug testing was the buster, and neither man budged when both had the chance. Therefore neither man wanted the fight.

Wow, either you didn't read the article or you have a problem with comprehension, which is it??

Or you are having a problem with accepting the facts, I'll try and iron it out for you but I'm sure that a Simpleton such as yourself will still come with some other BS excuse to try and point the finger at Floyd when it is written as clear as day that Manny ducked!!

Floyd agreed to all of Manny's demands. Floyd only asked for one and Manny did not agree!!

Is that simple enough for you Moron?

NO, I knew you wouldn't accept it.

[punchoutsb]

So he agreed to fight at the weight they were both at and to make that weight?

Wow! Stop the presses!

Floyd's a pro. He only misses weight if he wants to, so the penalty meant nil.

The drug testing was the buster, and neither man budged when both had the chance. Therefore neither man wanted the fight.

Wow, either you didn't read the article or you have a problem with comprehension, which is it??

Or you are having a problem with accepting the facts, I'll try and iron it out for you but I'm sure that a Simpleton such as yourself will still come with some other BS excuse to try and point the finger at Floyd when it is written as clear as day that Manny ducked!!

Floyd agreed to all of Manny's demands. Floyd only asked for one and Manny did not agree!!

Is that simple enough for you Moron?

NO, I knew you wouldn't accept it.

Why didn't Floyd back off on the drug testing? He'd have won the fight anyway. And what, besides the mutually agreed on 50/50, did Manny demand?