Who wins this tournament of heavyweights?

[drunkenpiper36]

-Corrie Sanders
-Gerry Cooney
-David Tua
-Tommy Morrison
-Joe Mesi
-Francesco Damiani
-Alexander Povetkin
-Chris Byrd
-Nikolay Valuev
-Kirk Johnson

[SenorPipino]

Of course it matters how it's seeded and what the matchups are.
Today, I'll go with Byrd to squeak it out.
He may have trouble with the size of Cooney (lets not even discuss the "Mummy" Valuev) but he's the most skilled guy in the group.

[BoxBuzz]

Cmon...the "Marciano Anomaly" must be invoked here.

If he never lost, he can't lose. Joe Mesi...

[Tomasino]

-Corrie Sanders
-Gerry Cooney
-David Tua
-Tommy Morrison
-Joe Mesi
-Francesco Damiani
-Alexander Povetkin
-Chris Byrd
-Nikolay Valuev
-Kirk Johnson

I'd hope that lazy Tua didn't show up and he managed to win the whole mess. Him or Tommy Morrison. Chris Byrd could slip and spoil his way to victory too. The winner gets acknowledged as Top 5 ATG.

[tiny_acres]

The only 3 I give little to no hope to is Mesi,Damiani and Johnson

[Othro]

I'd pick Byrd or maybe Povetkin.

[polecateddy]

Damiami to finish runner up.

[macaca]

Ped's and AIDS testing non-mandatory?

Tommy

[Woldemar]

Byrd.

[Ambling Alp II]

They all had their share of unimpressive performances and most had meltdowns. Each to see any of them losing.
At their best, I would pick Cooney. If he fought like he did against Holmes he would take any of these guys.

All of these guys had some ability as well severe limitations. Hard to see one guy looking good throughout the tournament, but someone has to win it.

Luck would have a lot to do with this. Since most of these guys were inconsistent, a lot would depend on how well a fighter's opponent would perform on that particular day.
If this tournament 5 times, it's doubtful anyone would win it more than twice.
Since there are 10 guys, there has to be byes. A fighter who doesn't have to fight in the first round of the tournament would have a serious advantage.

[evrenb]

Impossible to give an answer as who is facing who?

[drunkenpiper36]

Impossible to give an answer as who is facing who?

I gave no specific guidelines.. Just kinda through it together. Create your own scenario and conclusions

[evrenb]

Hmm..Cooney....

[drunkenpiper36]

I'm starting to think so as well. I'd say the likely winner is between Gerry cooney and chris Byrd. Of course it could depend greatly on the dynamics of the tournament, how consistent or inconsistent some guys are, who gets to sit out and rest, and what kinds of injuries each man sustains in the process. If the Gerry Cooney of the Holmes fight shows up and performs in that manner througout the the tournament, he likely has the best chance of winning. But Chris Byrd is certainly a factor.

[drunkenpiper36]

They all had their share of unimpressive performances and most had meltdowns. Each to see any of them losing.
At their best, I would pick Cooney. If he fought like he did against Holmes he would take any of these guys.

All of these guys had some ability as well severe limitations. Hard to see one guy looking good throughout the tournament, but someone has to win it.

Luck would have a lot to do with this. Since most of these guys were inconsistent, a lot would depend on how well a fighter's opponent would perform on that particular day.
If this tournament 5 times, it's doubtful anyone would win it more than twice.
Since there are 10 guys, there has to be byes. A fighter who doesn't have to fight in the first round of the tournament would have a serious advantage.

Great post. Yeah I didn't plan out the tournament real well and missed the fact that one guy might have to sit out. Good points.

[dempseyfire]

Frankly I see Damiani winning this . . he's probably the most well-rounded fighter here. Byrd could also do it but I can see him being outworked by a few.

[HomicideHenry]

Considering I ran a tournament several months ago, and alot of those on your list was on there--- if I recall, Cooney made it the farthest--- however, I'd venture to say on your tourney it would of came down to Sanders and Byrd. And that would of been a hell of a contest--- if the Sanders who came and fought the Klitschko brothers showed up.

[pound per pound]

-Corrie Sanders
-Gerry Cooney
-David Tua
-Tommy Morrison
-Joe Mesi
-Francesco Damiani
-Alexander Povetkin
-Chris Byrd
-Nikolay Valuev
-Kirk Johnson

Much depends on the draw. You're better off with 12 fighters. With 10, you have bye slots.

I would say Mesi and Valuev are the long shots.

Tua or Sanders I think would take it.

[BoxBuzz]

OK....I'll run it on the computer and report the winner. We'll need two more......any suggestions? (Make them throwaways, we don't want to have someone come out on top that's NOT in this group...lol. first two names entered that are not odds on to excel get the nod.

[tiny_acres]

OK....I'll run it on the computer and report the winner. We'll need two more......any suggestions? (Make them throwaways, we don't want to have someone come out on top that's NOT in this group...lol. first two names entered that are not odds on to excel get the nod.

Monte Barrett
James Tillis

You wanted throw aways.Those are both solid fighters but should not effect the outcome

[BoxBuzz]

OK....and just to make the matchups totaly random.....we will use an alphabetical algorithm "A" fighter versus "Z" fighter working our way to the center of the alphabet.

It will be sudden death tourney. You lose, your out.


I'll report soon.

[BoxBuzz]

OK....all fighters have been given assumptions of top condition and in their prime and 15 round fights. Odds favorites are as follows: Valuev, Tua, Damiani, Cooney, Povetkin, and Morrison:

Outcomes:

Valuev over Barrett 15th round split decision.
Byrd over Tua 15th round unanimous decision
Damiani over Sanders 15th round unanimous decision
Cooney over Tillis 7th round TKO
Johnson over Povetkin 9th round TKO by cuts
Morrison over Mesi 15th round decision

[BoxBuzz]

Next round: and I kept the losers in the mix......for the curious. Odds favorites are as follows. Povetkin, Mesi, Tua.........and for the upper class....Damiani....even odds.....Valuev


Outcomes:

Povetkin over Sanders by KO in round 4
Mesi over Tillis round six KO
Tua over Barret Round 10 technical decision due to head butt that goofed Barret all to hell

Damiani over Johnson TKO 5
Cooney over Morrison TKO 5
Byrd and Valuev fought to a Draw

[BoxBuzz]

Ouch....guess we'll finish this out with all involved. We'll let Tua and Barrett go again....as with Valuev and Byrd Odds favorites are: Tua, Morrison, Valuev and Damiani others are dead even.


Outcomes:

Barret over Tua 15th round split decision
Povetkin over Mesi tko 11
Sanders over Tillis DQ round 6
Morrison over Johnson split decision round 15


Nikolay Valuev over Chris Byrd 15th round split decision
Damiani over Cooney 13th round tko due to cuts

[BoxBuzz]

Valuev stops Damiani in 13. End of story.