Adrien Broner struggles ... again

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Marcos Maidana, Carlos Molina and now Emanuel Taylor.

Is Broner all talk ?
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Broner sucks. A dope on rope is his style.
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Broner is a f*cking clown I guarantee he won't fight Lucas.

And no need to read between the lines Broner is that type of scum that is pro African american and seems to have some hate for any other race.

I want to see this hoe layed out cold.
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Yeah. His mouth is much larger than his boxing ability. If no one ever saw him fight before, and only heard him talk, they might think he was the greatest fighter in the world.
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Didn't see all the fight but a friend who did said that without the KD he would have scored the fight a draw. Was Broner really that poor?
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crusader wrote:Didn't see all the fight but a friend who did said that without the KD he would have scored the fight a draw. Was Broner really that poor?
I wouldn't say he was poor, it was just a competitive fight. Taylor boxed very well.
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Taylor is actually very decent, beat a decent Karim Mayfield
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I thought that was an impressive performance against a skilled trap fighter. Compare that to Garcia/Herrera. Also, the fight was very "exciting for the fans" and displayed a level of skill that most fights don't perform up to.

Also, the dramatic late knockdown was classic. Kinda like a buzz beater to seal in the minds of the public who won the fight.

He also called out the most dangerous man in the division and was 100% more humble in the post fight interview.

Damn, he is annoying, but give credit where credit is due.
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Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah. His mouth is much larger than his boxing ability. If no one ever saw him fight before, and only heard him talk, they might think he was the greatest fighter in the world.
In terms of Boxing ability alone. Broner is young already a 3 time or 3 weight class division champion. Just by watching Broner with his accomplishment's being so young one would think he should be a world beater. P4P etc. Honestly I don't see that in Broner. I think Broner peaked at 135. I don't know really if Broner got worse. I think the 3 time accomplishment appears to be misleading. What you see is what you get with Broner. It's not very much by the 3 time bit and all...
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Matthysse, Pacquiao, Provodnikov and Herrera names I know in 147 will beat broner easy.

If broner will get the balls to fight Matthysse that would be awesome.

But most likely broner will pick somebody of an even lower class then Taylor, somebody possible coming up from 135 who wont give him problems like Taylor did today.
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MachoTime wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah. His mouth is much larger than his boxing ability. If no one ever saw him fight before, and only heard him talk, they might think he was the greatest fighter in the world.
In terms of Boxing ability alone. Broner is young already a 3 time or 3 weight class division champion. Just by watching Broner with his accomplishment's being so young one would think he should be a world beater. P4P etc. Honestly I don't see that in Broner. I think Broner peaked at 135. I don't know really if Broner got worse. I think the 3 time accomplishment appears to be misleading. What you see is what you get with Broner. It's not very much by the 3 time bit and all...
When he was a "lightweight" he was outweighing dudes by ten pounds in the ring.

What you're seeing is the same as Giovani Segura: now he has to fight fighters his size, he ain't so wonderful no more.

& titles are a joke, but man, Broner's three-weight title run must be the jokiest of all.

I hate him mostly not for the antics & the stupidity but because he represents the apotheosis of manufactured, packaged, bullshit empty product-pushing in boxing, everything stacked in his favour from the start, gratuitous hype, ridiculous fawning coverage, incredibly easy matchmaking... He had all the hype & crookedness of modern boxing as "sports entertainment" rather than a sport on his side, when he couldn't "make the weight" for Escobedo he got to beat up a man a stone lighter & the other poor pudendum got paid off, which shows you what HBO & by extension boxing thinks of fighters, really, which is the same as Floyd Mayweather's attitude toward women ("I've bought you, I own you, you're now my property so I can do waht I like"). & very few people mention that sickening episode.

Anyway, the joyous thing is: he managed to fvck it up. He couldn't even vault o'er the modest bars they set out for him. Ha.

The sad thing is, he can fight, a little bit. Just several billion light years away from how he's presented & sold.
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If Broner wasnt such a dick then people would give hm the credit he deserves and maybe more

Purely as a boxer i like him,he's achieved a fair amout in a short time and is has as much talent as anyone fighting today plus he showed against Maidana he has a heck of a heart which because of his dickishness people tend to forget

I didnt see last nights fight with Taylor but it was a good win,Emanuel is a good boxer and Adrien has no divine right to beat anyone but he does need to knuckle down if he wants to make the most of his career

If you wanna act as brash as Ali and as obnoctious as Mayweather then you better back it up in style,Broner hasnt been so deserves to be treated like the knobhead he so clearly is

Another thing that gets me with Broner on here is that 90% of people state that he is overated then the the same 90% of people complain that he isnt dominating people like Taylor,i think the truth about Broner's ability lies somewhere in the middle,
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handsofstone wrote:If Broner wasnt such a dick then people would give hm the credit he deserves and maybe more
I'm not really sure I agree with that sentiment. Broner has more than gotten the credit he deserves and was considered the future of boxing and plenty of publications had him in the p4p elite bracket before he got beaten by Maidana. He has been well and truly overhyped by everyone from the top down. If he was still knocking out guys who were outgunned he would still be getting undue credit, whether he was acting like a dick or not. Its just now he is looking very average and is being talked about in that way, but its not because he is a dick, its because he lost. People worship the '0' in boxing no matter how much of a tool the fighter is or how well protected he has been. Now he has been beaten, people care a lot less about him.
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CheckHook wrote:
handsofstone wrote:If Broner wasnt such a dick then people would give hm the credit he deserves and maybe more
I'm not really sure I agree with that sentiment. Broner has more than gotten the credit he deserves and was considered the future of boxing and plenty of publications had him in the p4p elite bracket before he got beaten by Maidana. He has been well and truly overhyped by everyone from the top down. If he was still knocking out guys who were outgunned he would still be getting undue credit, whether he was acting like a dick or not. Its just now he is looking very average and is being talked about in that way, but its not because he is a dick, its because he lost. People worship the '0' in boxing no matter how much of a tool the fighter is or how well protected he has been. Now he has been beaten, people care a lot less about him.

:bow:

Despite my acknowledgement that he's actually a decent boxer, I refuse to get fvcking sentimental about a pudendum who's been stuffed down my throat & given every advantage possible short of fvcking ham-stringing his opponents when they get in the ring.

People's knee-jerk backlash response needs a fvcking word, though, both in this case & the reassessing of forum-favourites like Matthysse. I blame being brainwashed by modern meedja's "There's ONLY EVER TWO SIDES TO ANYTHING!"* presentation of all events, which obviously is gross & compromised as real events are composed of a fractal wossname of millions of different sides & reducing them destroys the texture & nuance in which is found meaning.

If there are enough articles about how terrible paedophiles are, eventually some churnalist pudendum will write an article "How terrible to malign the kinder-fuckers" & if enough poor morons pick it up, there'll be a groundswell of public opinion in support of the opinion.

We are all reduced to thin etiolated shadows etc etc.

*:Which I blame for almost everything, natch.
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Broner looks like he's getting lazier and can hardly be bothered. He wants to be a rapper, not a boxer. Soon as he is matched tough again, he will lose.

Credit to Taylor for giving it a go but he certainly looked a weight below. Anyone know the fight night weights of them both?
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I don't think this fight improved anyone's opinion of Broner or made anyone think he can be the #1 guy at 140, let alone 147. Taylor is the type of guy an elite fighter should be shutting out. Hell, Algieri outboxed Taylor more easily.

The way he freezes up when backed into the ropes makes me think Mattysse will have a field day with him.
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Evander wrote:Marcos Maidana, Carlos Molina and now Emanuel Taylor.

Is Broner all talk ?
dont forget Malignaggi. Broner hasnt impressed anyone since Demarco
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Broner has fought one good fighter. And got crushed.

Until he fights another top 10 guy I won't and can't truly judge him.

He's barely beating 2nd rate guys.

I don't even think he beat Paulie.
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diddy wrote:Broner has fought one good fighter. And got crushed.

Until he fights another top 10 guy I won't and can't truly judge him.

He's barely beating 2nd rate guys.

I don't even think he beat Paulie.
crushed. I never seen a fighter get crushed and lost a Majority decision.
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Who was the MD against? Maidana beat him by several points on all three cards.

I think Broner is a good fighter, just nowhere near a level commensurate to the hype/praise/paychecks he received and is receiving in the case of the latter. He's also one of the weakest three division champions in boxing history.
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crusader wrote:Who was the MD against? Maidana beat him by several points on all three cards.
damn I thought I remember them saying a MD but I was wrong. He did lose clearly but he didn't get crushed.
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crusader wrote:I think Broner is a good fighter, just nowhere near a level commensurate to the hype/praise/paychecks he received and is receiving in the case of the latter.
This is all relative cuz the truth of the matter is boxing is a putting asses in seats business more than a the best get the best money business like it or not. And Adrien puts asses in seats like it or not so therefore he's being paid what he's worth. Its like some movie sh!t. Everyone may think 7 Years a Slave is a better film, but Guardians of the Galaxy makes more money.
He's also one of the weakest three division champions in boxing history.
Agree. I think he is the least accomplished 3 division champion. No one has beaten lesser opposition to get 3 belts imho.
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If Broner didn't have the larger than life personality, he'd be no one. I can't believe people don't see that. This dude could easily have 5 losses on his record now and he's never actually fought a single A level opponent. If he wasn't pretending to have millions of dollars he really doesn't have or is being lent out, recording sex with girls on his cell phone, and basically acting like a total sociopath, he'd be Henry Lundy. He'd be Emmanuel Taylor. He'd be Thomas Dulorme. He'd be Karim Mayfield. That's the fighter he'd really be. That boxing fans who think they're smart can't figure out that he doesn't actually have the talent or the ability to transcend, but only can offer the image and that the image somehow hurts him shows how even educated fight fans can be turned to pure rubes.
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MachoTime wrote:
Impractical Poster wrote:Yeah. His mouth is much larger than his boxing ability. If no one ever saw him fight before, and only heard him talk, they might think he was the greatest fighter in the world.
In terms of Boxing ability alone. Broner is young already a 3 time or 3 weight class division champion. Just by watching Broner with his accomplishment's being so young one would think he should be a world beater. P4P etc. Honestly I don't see that in Broner. I think Broner peaked at 135. I don't know really if Broner got worse. I think the 3 time accomplishment appears to be misleading. What you see is what you get with Broner. It's not very much by the 3 time bit and all...
The thing with Broner at 135 and below was he was bigger, stronger, and faster than those guys. He is now fighting guys that are right around the same size as him. He still seems to have a speed advantage over everyone he fights. Fundamentally, he is flawed, which makes his fights exciting. He is definitely skilled, but I believe he will be biting off more than he can chew with Matthysee.
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ReggieDiggs wrote:
crusader wrote:I think Broner is a good fighter, just nowhere near a level commensurate to the hype/praise/paychecks he received and is receiving in the case of the latter.
This is all relative cuz the truth of the matter is boxing is a putting asses in seats business more than a the best get the best money business like it or not. And Adrien puts asses in seats like it or not so therefore he's being paid what he's worth. Its like some movie sh!t. Everyone may think 7 Years a Slave is a better film, but Guardians of the Galaxy makes more money.
He's also one of the weakest three division champions in boxing history.
Agree. I think he is the least accomplished 3 division champion. No one has beaten lesser opposition to get 3 belts imho.
He is putting asses in seats. But now that he is starting to fight top guys, he is going to have to back up that mouth or he will be pushed off to the side. Trash talk sells as long as you can back it up. And if he starts fighting the guys we want to see him fight, he may very well end up a memory.
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