Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
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dempseyfire
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
Lb for lb, yes.
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
The heavyweights always seem to get the shaft when compared pound for pound. Foreman had explosive power. Moore was a very hard punching light heavyweight, but not the same as Foreman. Moore was a better all around puncher.
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Caractacus
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
What is this ridiculous "pound for pound"stuff anyway.
either a man can puncher harder then another man you he can not.
either a man can puncher harder then another man you he can not.
Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
julien jackson @25.....surely he should be higher
Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
He would be in my top 5.stevedoc wrote:julien jackson @25.....surely he should be higher
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same hereevrenb wrote:He would be in my top 5.stevedoc wrote:julien jackson @25.....surely he should be higher
Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
ExactlyCaractacus wrote:What is this ridiculous "pound for pound"stuff anyway.
either a man can puncher harder then another man you he can not.
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
Obviously Foreman punched harder than Archie Moore. I don't think Dempseyfire is arguing that. Some people might argue that Moore as a light heavyweight in comparison to other light heavyweights punched harder than Foreman did compared to other heavyweights.
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Fitzsimmons might be number 1. Might be...
Hagler seems too high. Quality puncher for sure but I don't remember too many one shot moments. Feel the same about Chavez, both were solid punchers but rarely seemed to starch a guy with one punch. Monzon is an odd one. Like Chavez and Hagler he seemed like a consistent puncher but occasionally he would be explosive.
I'd seriously consider Ray Leonard in a top 100. His accuracy and speed often messed with as opponent's equilibrium.
Hagler seems too high. Quality puncher for sure but I don't remember too many one shot moments. Feel the same about Chavez, both were solid punchers but rarely seemed to starch a guy with one punch. Monzon is an odd one. Like Chavez and Hagler he seemed like a consistent puncher but occasionally he would be explosive.
I'd seriously consider Ray Leonard in a top 100. His accuracy and speed often messed with as opponent's equilibrium.
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Charles should also be on the list.
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Counter-puncher
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
good post, agreed.Ezzard wrote:Fitzsimmons might be number 1. Might be...
Hagler seems too high. Quality puncher for sure but I don't remember too many one shot moments. Feel the same about Chavez, both were solid punchers but rarely seemed to starch a guy with one punch. Monzon is an odd one. Like Chavez and Hagler he seemed like a consistent puncher but occasionally he would be explosive.
I'd seriously consider Ray Leonard in a top 100. His accuracy and speed often messed with as opponent's equilibrium.
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HomicideHenry
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
Fitzsimmons... I think takes the cake... or one could make the case for Jimmy Wilde or Sam Langford as wellCounter-puncher wrote:good post, agreed.Ezzard wrote:Fitzsimmons might be number 1. Might be...
Hagler seems too high. Quality puncher for sure but I don't remember too many one shot moments. Feel the same about Chavez, both were solid punchers but rarely seemed to starch a guy with one punch. Monzon is an odd one. Like Chavez and Hagler he seemed like a consistent puncher but occasionally he would be explosive.
I'd seriously consider Ray Leonard in a top 100. His accuracy and speed often messed with as opponent's equilibrium.
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Ambling Alp II
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Re: Was the Old Mongoose really a harder puncher than Big George
If you notice, the list is the Top 100 "Greatest Punchers". It doesn't actually say the hardest punchers. Greatest punchers could mean a lot of things besides just power; accuracy, speed, combinations, variety etc.
It can't just be power alone; Holyfield for example made the list.
Maybe the actual article explains just what they mean by Greatest punchers. Anyone have the actual article?
It can't just be power alone; Holyfield for example made the list.
Maybe the actual article explains just what they mean by Greatest punchers. Anyone have the actual article?