Golovkin + Rubio = Saul?

[G.McClellan]

I realise in advance triple G and Cotto won't meet. Cotto's team won't allow it. But Cotto v Saul, with Saul edging that encounter and setting up a date with Golovkin. Once Golovkin demolishes Rubio he'll be the WBC interim champion and the mandatory for anyone holding the title.

[Tarkus]

I realise in advance triple G and Cotto won't meet. Cotto's team won't allow it. But Cotto v Saul, with Saul edging that encounter and setting up a date with Golovkin. Once Golovkin demolishes Rubio he'll be the WBC interim champion and the mandatory for anyone holding the title.

Another incentive for Canelo to stay in that 155 weight category whatever it is a bit longer.

[ikorolev]

Personally-speaking, I feel that Alvarez has mixed with a higher calibre of opposition, which means he may be the slight favourite to defeat Golovkin, but whatever happens… it’ll be one hell of a monumental struggle! ;;-)

... as if caliber of previous opposition decides how a fight goes. If it happens, Golovkin by murder.

[ReggieDiggs]

Canelo Alvarez has just signed a long-term contract to return to HBO and they will now be televising his next bout on the 6th December against Joshua Clottey.

Assuming he defeats the Ghanaian, it is believed (based on Oscar De La Hoya’s recent comments) that Canelo will then challenge Miguel Cotto for his Lineal, Ring Magazine and WBC middleweight championships on the 2nd May, 2015.

Anyway, my prediction is that Canelo Alvarez will outbox Miguel Cotto in dominant fashion to set-up another super-fight between himself and Gennady Golovkin on the 12th September, 2015 (Mexican Independence Weekend).

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[hoagylt]

Personally-speaking, I feel that Alvarez has mixed with a higher calibre of opposition, which means he may be the slight favourite to defeat Golovkin, but whatever happens… it’ll be one hell of a monumental struggle! ;;-)

... as if caliber of previous opposition decides how a fight goes. If it happens, Golovkin by murder.

Agree totally .

[ReggieDiggs]

Personally-speaking, I feel that Alvarez has mixed with a higher calibre of opposition, which means he may be the slight favourite to defeat Golovkin, but whatever happens… it’ll be one hell of a monumental struggle! ;;-)

... as if caliber of previous opposition decides how a fight goes. If it happens, Golovkin by murder.

Yes yes we get it you think GGG is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[ikorolev]

Personally-speaking, I feel that Alvarez has mixed with a higher calibre of opposition, which means he may be the slight favourite to defeat Golovkin, but whatever happens… it’ll be one hell of a monumental struggle! ;;-)

... as if caliber of previous opposition decides how a fight goes. If it happens, Golovkin by murder.

Yes yes we get it you think GGG is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

You don't even need to be so great to beat Canelo ... He is no Roy Jones.

[Tarkus]

Canelo Alvarez has just signed a long-term contract to return to HBO and they will now be televising his next bout on the 6th December against Joshua Clottey.

Assuming he defeats the Ghanaian, it is believed (based on Oscar De La Hoya’s recent comments) that Canelo will then challenge Miguel Cotto for his Lineal, Ring Magazine and WBC middleweight championships on the 2nd May, 2015.

Anyway, my prediction is that Canelo Alvarez will outbox Miguel Cotto in dominant fashion to set-up another super-fight between himself and Gennady Golovkin on the 12th September, 2015 (Mexican Independence Weekend).

Keep dreaming D

Personally-speaking, I feel that Alvarez has mixed with a higher calibre of opposition, which means he may be the slight favourite to defeat Golovkin, but whatever happens… it’ll be one hell of a monumental struggle! ;;-)

Maybe you would see Canelo as a favorite but I doubt the rest of the world would. Personally I think he will be a dog meat if he steps in with GGG.

[SFW]

Taking a look at Canelo's opposition, I see that many people believe both Trout and Lara beat him and controversially lost the decision.. I'd think twice about putting much stock in just who he has fought rather than how he performed against them.. certainly looked beatable to a killer like GGG.

Sparring years ago holds no weight and at this present time indicates nothing.. Canelo would win some rounds but I bet he would take a beating the 2nd half of the fight and lose one way or another.

[Badhusker]

Taking a look at Canelo's opposition, I see that many people believe both Trout and Lara beat him and controversially lost the decision.. I'd think twice about putting much stock in just who he has fought rather than how he performed against them.. certainly looked beatable to a killer like GGG.

Sparring years ago holds no weight and at this present time indicates nothing.. Canelo would win some rounds but I bet he would take a beating the 2nd half of the fight and lose one way or another.

Canelo beat Trout and Lara and deserved to gain the nod over both men.

Even though I feel that Golovkin is a truly talented fighter, I don’t know why so many people consider him as a devastating destructive force, much akin to Mike Tyson in his prime, when the best opponents on his resume is the lightly-regarded Matthew Macklin and a past-his-prime Daniel Geale.

This is astonishing considering the fact that.... Golovkin arrived on the world scene in 2008, when he was ranked by multiple organisations as a top-ten contender, won a world title in 2010, competed in eleven world title fights, started appearing on HBO in 2012, is considered amongst the top-ten pound-for pound elite, is 32 years old, unbeaten in 30 fights… but the best opponent on his resume is a past-his-prime and terrified Daniel Geale.

Perhaps Gennady is good enough to deserve all the hype and high praise, but I refuse to jump on the GGG bandwagon until he wipes the floor with an elite-level fighter that is in their prime and competing in their natural habitat.

I think Canelo is in that same boat. He has yet to clearly beat (I won't even say wipe the floor with) an elite level fighter in their prime. All the more reason the two should fight. Beating Cotto at this point is a good win, but lets be real - Trout showed that can be done easily.

[Datsue]

Whilst I'm not on any GGG bandwagon, I have to say I'm probably at least running along behind it at this stage, trying to attract the driver's attention.

It is technically true he's not faced the elites, but it's getting to the stage where that's cavilling & nit-picking 'cos if you've flattened enough of the best of the second-grade in the manner he has (Geale, Macklin) & you've got to think about at least considering him as a bad mofo.

Alvarez is a very good fighter & also a bit of a bad mofo. But he's about five foot seven in boxing boots, isn't a bomber, isn't a cutie, doesn't have an impregnable defence & isn't a speedster. GGG is a very hard hitting accomplished middleweight.

If Canelo takes out Cotto in seconds then I might start thinking "Christ, here we go", otherwise I expect "purse negotiations" & "contractual wrangles" to get in the way forever. & I wouldn't expect much of the contractual wrangling to be in either Kazakh or Russian.

PS: OTOH, Saul apparently has a decent set of nuts on him (I'm basing this on his apparent willingness to fight Lara & Trout, didn't he force GB's hand on both?), so what do I know? He might fancy it. I'd certainly like to see it, obviously.

[ikorolev]

Saul apparently has a decent set of nuts on him (I'm basing this on his apparent willingness to fight Lara & Trout, didn't he force GB's hand on both?), so what do I know? He might fancy it. I'd certainly like to see it, obviously.

I agree. The guy is still very young and idealistic. After he gets back his confidence by impressively beating Clottey and defeating Cotto, he may push for the GGG fight.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

I agree that Saul will fight anyone, disagree that he'll beat Cotto.

[Baby Face Finster]

Anyone who thinks Canelo can beat Triple G is off his meds or simply not too bright.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He has absolutely nothing for that match up. The next day he will suck and Golovkin will still need to prove himself.

[Datsue]

He has absolutely nothing for that match up. The next day he will suck and Golovkin will still need to prove himself.

Not by my lights he won't. But I have already given my reasons why I think GGG beats him.

Like I said, I'm not on the bandwagon, at all, don't particularly like bandwagons, but GGG won't be beaten at middle unless someone comes along with height & reach or is a real old-skool cutie or is a thunderous one-shot hitter.

There's no-one out there that I know of that fits those descriptions, certainly not at middle.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

He has absolutely nothing for that match up. The next day he will suck and Golovkin will still need to prove himself.

Not by my lights he won't. But I have already given my reasons why I think GGG beats him.

Like I said, I'm not on the bandwagon, at all, don't particularly like bandwagons, but GGG won't be beaten at middle unless someone comes along with height & reach or is a real old-skool cutie or is a thunderous one-shot hitter.

There's no-one out there that I know of that fits those descriptions, certainly not at middle.

You're reasonable, most aren't. being wrong is just too damn hard to take on the internet. Better to just hate on one of the most exciting fighters, with a great attitude, that the sport has seen in years.

As you stated guys like Geale and macklin don't get demolished by someone that needs to prove they belong at the top of the weight class. He's already done that, it's just a matter of whether or not he's as the top of the sport. I think he is, but that has yet to be proven.

[SenorPipino]

No chance in hell that Canelo would go in the oddsmakers' favorite over Triple G.

The Mexican, enormously hittable and not too swift, would be going in untested at 160 lbs.
He does appear to possess a solid chin and would certainly need it against a hard-hitter like Golovkin. Canelo's stock has slipped with less than spectacular showings against Mayweather and Lara, and it's very unlikely that the books would open him the choice over boxings' rising Golden Boy.

True, Canelo has fought superior competition. Golovkin's opposition hasn't exactly been HOF material. But, on the other hand, Canelo hasn't demonstrated that he'll eventually be enshrined in Canastota.

As a matter of record, when the GGG-Chavez Jr. bout was being negotiated earlier this summer, oddmakers installed the much smaller Russian as a solid 6-1 choice over the Son of the Legend. In other words, they gave Junior little chance against the lighter champion.
Even if you argue that Canelo is a superior fighter to Chavez, judging by the aforementioned odds, it's difficult to fathom how the jr. middleweight Mexican would be better than a 3 1/2-1 underdog to GGG.

[ikorolev]

It seems that there are many self-proclaimed boxing "experts" predicting another travesty in our beloved sport, whereby Canelo could face serious injury if he engages in a mismatch of a fight against Golovkin!

Perhaps we should make a plea to the boxing authorities to refuse to sanction such a recklessly dangerous, grotesque and one-sided bout?

Should the police authorities intervene for unregulated and unreasonable matchmaking behaviour and prevent the staging of such an event based on the justification of their belief that health and safety precautions have been severely breached?

Health and safety precautions are being severely breached in any professional boxing bout. At heavier weights or with good punchers' participation, it is even worse. Whoever faces a puncher like Golovkin and tries to fight him for 12 rounds is risking their health. Ask Ouma who fought sick Golovkin.

[Butterbean]

Anyone who thinks Canelo can beat Triple G is off his meds or simply not too bright.

Perhaps I really am mentally deficient and emotionally-disturbed for believing that a Canelo-Golovkin bout would be an intriguing and a highly-competitive affair, where the result could go either way.

As you seem to be an experienced passenger on the Golovkin bandwagon, would you care to enlighten me with your prediction of the outcome of the GGG-Canelo fight?

I’ve been reading some fairly dramatic and shocking words being used on this thread by some of our forum members when they describe the way that GGG would beat Alvarez…
• "Golovkin by murder"
• "...[Canelo] will be a dog meat if he steps in with GGG"
• "...[Canelo] certainly looked beatable to a killer like GGG"
• "I bet [Canelo] would take a beating"

It seems that there are many self-proclaimed boxing "experts" predicting another travesty in our beloved sport, whereby Canelo could face serious injury if he engages in a mismatch of a fight against Golovkin!

Perhaps we should make a plea to the boxing authorities to refuse to sanction such a recklessly dangerous, grotesque and one-sided bout?

Should the police authorities intervene for unregulated and unreasonable matchmaking behaviour and prevent the staging of such an event based on the justification of their belief that health and safety precautions have been severely breached?

You're way more right than your sarkasm implies... Canelo down and out within 5 if it happens

[Shadow_55]

I don't see canelo beating cotto and GGG. Still it would be a big fight for both.

[Tarkus]

I’ve been reading some fairly dramatic and shocking words being used on this thread by some of our forum members when they describe the way that GGG would beat Alvarez…
• "Golovkin by murder"
• "...[Canelo] will be a dog meat if he steps in with GGG"
• "...[Canelo] certainly looked beatable to a killer like GGG"
• "I bet [Canelo] would take a beating"

It seems that there are many self-proclaimed boxing "experts" predicting another travesty in our beloved sport, whereby Canelo could face serious injury if he engages in a mismatch of a fight against Golovkin!

Where did I say I was an expert. Or expressing once opinion is the same as to "self-proclaim" expertise.

Perhaps we should make a plea to the boxing authorities to refuse to sanction such a recklessly dangerous, grotesque and one-sided bout?

Should the police authorities intervene for unregulated and unreasonable matchmaking behaviour and prevent the staging of such an event based on the justification of their belief that health and safety precautions have been severely breached?

No need for those. Oscar will do the job just fine. He is not gonna allow his favorite starlet been torn apart by the dogs. Was that to harsh?


Funny how this dude descended form a logical high ground to a petty sarcasm D

[Tarkus]

Maybe you would see Canelo as a favorite but I doubt the rest of the world would. Personally I think he will be a dog meat if he steps in with GGG.

Yes I exaggerated it slightly, embellished it a little, he is not going to be literally quartered. But I do think he will get stopped. I also doubt his management would welcome GGG clash. BTW I do respect Canelo. I think if this fight happens it is because Canelo will insist on it.

[Butterbean]

i seriously doubt that canelo will pose more of a challenge to ggg, than any of the other guys he has flattened. no one ggg own size, or smaller, can beat him at his current level. canelo will be badly ko´ed.

[Ian1973]

Canelo doesn't have enough movement to stay out of Golovkin's way. There is only one winner of such a fight it's just a case of whether or not Canelo can see out the twelve rounds.