No Kirkland-Rosado; now probably Abregu-Sadam Ali

[crusader]

Is set for the Kov-Hop undercard at a catchweight.

http://www.BS.com/kirkland-ros ... r-8--82199

[Jpreisser]

Decent fight. I can see Rosado getting busted up, but I don't think Kirkland can maintain his inactivity and keep winning. Rosado may send him into further obscurity.

[ReggieDiggs]

Solid fight, I like it. I'm leaning towards James, but Gabriel is a live dog & it won't be shocking @ all if he gets the W.

[ikorolev]

Solid fight, I like it. I'm leaning towards James, but Gabriel is a live dog & it won't be shocking @ all if he gets the W.

I am wondering if Rosado can still comfortably make 156.

[crusader]

Apparently Kirkland-Rosado won't happen and Abregu-Sadam Ali, which I find more interesting, is the probable co-feature. It would also be a bout between a TR fighter in Abregu and a GBP fighter in Ali.

https://twitter.com/danrafaelespn/statu ... 6727350273

[ReggieDiggs]

Ugh, I'd rather see James vs Gabriel. Sadam has been a prospect on a championship hardly fighting schedule vs journeymen the last several years. Outside of this potentially being Sadam's coming out party (or KO loss into further obscurity) I'm not very excited for this fight. This is a huge jump up in class for him & I'm kinda expecting it to show.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

That's good for Rosado, he would have taken a terrible beating.

[ikorolev]

That's good for Rosado, he would have taken a terrible beating.

Rosado disagrees:

Gabriel Rosado @KingGabRosado
So I just finish my roadwork n check out my twitter n find out Kirkland pulled out of the fight ?!? Wtf is going on....

[ikorolev]

What is wrong with Kirkland ? He pulled of Canelo fight a few years ago, he refused to fight GGG in April, he didn't want to fight Canelo this year, and now he pulls of Rosado negotiations.

Can this all be blamed on bad management or he has other issues ?

[ReggieDiggs]

What is wrong with Kirkland ? He pulled of Canelo fight a few years ago, he refused to fight GGG in April, he didn't want to fight Canelo this year, and now he pulls of Rosado negotiations.

Can this all be blamed on bad management or he has other issues ?

Probably just James being a f#cking knucklehead. Fun guy to watch, but he'd lose on wheel of fortune vs a cat litter box & a can of Nestles Quik.

[ReggieDiggs]

Dan Rafael @danrafaelespn · 12m
Kirkland adviser said he turned career $ to fight Rosado. 1st said not enough time to train. When HBO offered to move date said not enough $

Dumb mfer

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Isn't he with 50? That dude is a career killer.

[ReggieDiggs]

Isn't he with 50? That dude is a career killer.

lol yea forgot about that. Don't know how you f#ck up a career high payday vs Gabriel Rosado when HBO is willing to push back the date for you. 50 needs to gtfo of boxing if he can't hit that softball right down the middle of the plate.

[diddy]

Why would this assbag turn down career high $ for a fight he would almost surely win?

He's either not in proper training mode physically/mentally because of some dumb sh*t going on in his miserable life, or not on a proper PED schedule. It's gotta be either or. If it's neither, well, he's just a moron. And that option is entirely possible.

[uptconnect]

Kirkland was made and then agreed to, a fair offer that if victorious over Rosado, would have lined him up for his biggest fight ever against Canelo. He was on board and good to go. Then someone told him 50 was taking too much of his purse, and after a phone conversation, Kirkland torpedoed the fight.
Pretty sure it was Kirkland's manager being quoted saying this, and he said the offer was fair and there was no shenanigans on 50's part, but that Kirkland is just a wildcard who goes off the rails all the time like this and f*cks his own career repeatedly by listening to every idiot who's whispering in his ear at whatever time he's making decisions.

[jockpunk]

I remember reading somewhere that kirkland has like a 75 iq. Not sure how truthful that statement was, but it doesn't take long to realize that kirkland is borderline retarded, if not full blown retard. Honestly, not sure if he should be fighting at all.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I remember reading somewhere that kirkland has like a 75 iq. Not sure how truthful that statement was, but it doesn't take long to realize that kirkland is borderline retarded, if not full blown retard. Honestly, not sure if he should be fighting at all.

Let's correct some of those terms.

Full blown retarded is something totally different than what you're trying to say. It is very possible that he is what we would consider autistic. However, it's really difficult to say because it could also be because of years of poor intellectual development.

Regardless. I don't know whats up with Kirkland. I'm normally a connesuier of fine boxing skill, but I love watching James fight. It's sad to see his level of activity be so low, and that it seems like he is the primary reason we don't get to see him fight.

Hopefully he figures his shit out.

[Taansend]

I remember reading somewhere that kirkland has like a 75 iq. Not sure how truthful that statement was, but it doesn't take long to realize that kirkland is borderline retarded, if not full blown retard. Honestly, not sure if he should be fighting at all.

Where did you read this? Who wrote it? When did they do an IQ test on the man?

I'm not saying he's a genius but I just wanted to get a few facts to back up your statement. It's very easy to start rumours on the internet.

Thanks

[ikorolev]

http://www.BS.com/james-kirkla ... own--82509?

shows that Kirkland is in fact pretty dumb.

[SaadOffTheDeck]

Anyone signed with 50 is a moron.

[lefty]

I remember reading somewhere that kirkland has like a 75 iq. Not sure how truthful that statement was, but it doesn't take long to realize that kirkland is borderline retarded, if not full blown retard. Honestly, not sure if he should be fighting at all.

Let's correct some of those terms.

Full blown retarded is something totally different than what you're trying to say. It is very possible that he is what we would consider autistic. However, it's really difficult to say because it could also be because of years of poor intellectual development.

Regardless. I don't know whats up with Kirkland. I'm normally a connesuier of fine boxing skill, but I love watching James fight. It's sad to see his level of activity be so low, and that it seems like he is the primary reason we don't get to see him fight.

Hopefully he figures his poo out.

There's a difference between someone with a very low IQ versus someone that is autistic. That's kind of offensive to an autistic person.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

I remember reading somewhere that kirkland has like a 75 iq. Not sure how truthful that statement was, but it doesn't take long to realize that kirkland is borderline retarded, if not full blown retard. Honestly, not sure if he should be fighting at all.

Let's correct some of those terms.

Full blown retarded is something totally different than what you're trying to say. It is very possible that he is what we would consider autistic. However, it's really difficult to say because it could also be because of years of poor intellectual development.

Regardless. I don't know whats up with Kirkland. I'm normally a connesuier of fine boxing skill, but I love watching James fight. It's sad to see his level of activity be so low, and that it seems like he is the primary reason we don't get to see him fight.

Hopefully he figures his poo out.

There's a difference between someone with a very low IQ versus someone that is autistic. That's kind of offensive to an autistic person.

I said it could be either or. We are from the outside looking in at an adult.

For years, MANY people have had their autism ignored and they have been called stupid, by teachers, doctors and their parents ... or criminals by the police, lawyers and judges. Do you think Kirkland grew up in a place that had the correct resources to treat any educational problems?

Please man, I'm far from offending any autistic person. I'm just stating the REALITY of many adults who grew up in an age in which these problems weren't fully acknowledged.

Imagine being slightly autistic in the hood during the 80's.

[uptconnect]

Imagine being slightly autistic in the hood during the 80's.

I grew up with a kid from the block who was just a little bit off, but not too bad.
In looking back he may have been autistic. There were many instances, but the thing I remember most is that he got hit by a car on 3 separate occasions over the span of about 4 years, crossing at the very same intersection every time. (Not an extra tricky or dangerous one- totally normal intersection on a medium level busy street)

Never seriously injured, but that was certainly telling, when it came to his being just a little off
Not that it hampered him in the long run though, he's quite successful now.

[Datsue]

Oscar De La Hoya has just claimed that Canelo Alvarez could face brawler James Kirkland instead of Joshua Clottey on the 6th December:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post ... anelo-deal

Thoughts? :??

As a spectacle: "SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!"

I'd love to watch it.

[ReggieDiggs]

Oscar De La Hoya has just claimed that Canelo Alvarez could face brawler James Kirkland instead of Joshua Clottey on the 6th December:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post ... anelo-deal

Thoughts? :??

Please boxing Jesus make this happen instead of Clottey.