IS KHAN LOOKING FOR A WAY OUT OF FIGHTING FLOYD?

[sucracristo]

the guy you are debating with says that is pretty much the same as catholicism.

Not quite, but nice try. I do believe religious people of any affiliation are a lil mfing nuts & that was what I was suggesting with my remark in regards to comparisons with Muslims & Catholics. The history of catholic atrocities don't start & stop with kid f#cking.

moral relativism at it's best. in order to defend the indefensible, point to something someone else did that
nobody defends (and usually put them in prison to thunderous applause). anything you can to
avoid acknowledging the elephant in the room, even pointing to ants and making an equivalency.
the hierarchical cover ups of kid f#cking somehow equate to half the stuff i mentioned.
ok, well i raise you iatollahs running another country and isis and hundreds of other
psychotic organizations committing atrocities around the world in the name if isalm. i woud
like to hear more of your catholicism equivalency before i keep going.

[sucracristo]

Wow ... the vast majority of Christian Americans "support the troops" and whatever the troops do

your justifications for the unjustifiable stretch the most convoluted pre-school tantrums
into a college thesis. how do you make it through the day surrounded by hetero capitalist
christian productive people without slitting your throat or blowing up a bridge?

[ReggieDiggs]

the guy you are debating with says that is pretty much the same as catholicism.

Not quite, but nice try. I do believe religious people of any affiliation are a lil mfing nuts & that was what I was suggesting with my remark in regards to comparisons with Muslims & Catholics. The history of catholic atrocities don't start & stop with kid f#cking.

moral relativism at it's best. in order to defend the indefensible, point to something someone else did that
nobody defends (and usually put them in prison to thunderous applause). anything you can to
avoid acknowledging the elephant in the room, even pointing to ants and making an equivalency.
the hierarchical cover ups of kid f#cking somehow equate to half the stuff i mentioned.
ok, well i raise you iatollahs running another country and isis and hundreds of other
psychotic organizations committing atrocities around the world in the name if isalm. i woud
like to hear more of your catholicism equivalency before i keep going.

Idk that anything is ever indefensible. There is seldom a f#cked up thing done for no reason. Whether you agree with that reason is another story. With all the sh!t going on in the middle east to Muslims, terrorists & non-terrorists, adults & children, I can completely understand Muslims being upset to the levels some are currently upset to if I believed what they believed. As a non-believer I ultimately think all these mfers are crazy, but that don't mean I cant pretend to be in there shoes & how they could be feeling.

And bro you seem like a smart mfer go google all the f#cked up shit w/e religions have done, catholics or otherwise. Bet the Amish did some sh!t @ some point to but idk what it is off the top of my head I know that much.

[sucracristo]

With all the sh!t going on in the middle east to Muslims, terrorists & non-terrorists, adults & children, I can completely understand Muslims being upset

i couldn't care less if you were druid, hindu, shinto, shaman, whatever. i got love for all.
you keep going back to you understanding how muslims born and raised in britain and the usa
feel about what is happening to muslims in the mideast, and ignoring the essense of everything
i have mentioned thus far, as if a death penalty for any non sunni entering mecca or women
being persecuted and gays executed there and all muslims bowing down and praying there
has anything to do with brit/usa muslims, other than religion. i know my the history and present
pretty well, and that is why i asked several times for you to back up this equivalency and you are
failing miserably. you pointed to some priests f#cking kids and going to prison with 0%
public support for what they did and equating it to things i mentioned which 90% of muslims
worldwide endorse, including born and raised in the usa and britain. this is called moral relativism.
pointing to anything whatsoever so long as it doesn't upset the narrative that anything wrong
that happens anywhere on the planet is really the fault of "you know who". i don't hate muslims
and day to day i just want my neighbors to mow their lawns and respect each other, but at the
same time this is one religion that has no equivalents anywhere as far as intolerance, jihad, etc.

[sucracristo]

As cordial, non-partial and open minded as Boxing fans/forums are, I think this would be a great place to discuss politics and religion and such!

Best comment on here!!!

pretty sure that is what khan was intending when he started mouthing off about religion, politics, and racism,
which he tends to do a lot. glass houses (jaws) and all that.
i would be perfectly happy not discussing anything khan says or does at all until he finishes
a fight on his feet with a top 10 welter.

[sucracristo]

the vast majority of Christian Americans "support the troops" and whatever the troops do. Why aren't we talking about an aggressive Christian country killing the most people?

Also, many Mulsim extremists invoke the name of their god while fighting for what they perceive to be justice. Almost all soldiers do the same. It doesn't mean that their religion is war. They aren't fighting America because our women dress too provocatively or because our children are rude. They do not hate us because we're free. They are fighting because they feel they have been wronged by America.

if you think barak hussein obama is bombing muslims in the name of jesus then you are
more batshit crazy than i thought you were

It doesn't mean that their religion is war. They aren't fighting America because our women dress too provocatively or because our children are rude. They do not hate us because we're free. They are fighting because they feel they have been wronged by America.

yeah yeah, we all get by now that you hate hetero males, capitalism and property rights, christians and jews,
white males who don't begin expressing a sympathetically moonbat opinion by first apologizing for being white,
america, etc.

you can understand muslims born and raised in the uk and usa for religious reasons wanting to install
shariah, force women to wear veils, cheer on suicide bombers/al qaeda, death to apostates, pray twice a day
in the direction of a place that forces 12 year old girls into polygamous marriages with 40 year olds, practices
female genital mutilation, makes women wear burkhas in 120 degree heat, doesn't let them out of the house
alone or drive, because of course they are justified to these beliefs based on uk/usa military involvement in
the mid-east, which you think is perpetrated in the name of jesus, but NO WAY would it be understandable if
methodists or presbetarians wanted to slaughter fellow americans or brits of the muslim faith based on what
muslims do to coptics, maronites, etc in the mideast. that would be extremist of them, wouldn't it?
trust me, i don't want this to be the truth. i wish this was all a bad dream but it isn't. for people who
are forced to live under shariah, it's a nightmare.

[ReggieDiggs]

With all the sh!t going on in the middle east to Muslims, terrorists & non-terrorists, adults & children, I can completely understand Muslims being upset

i couldn't care less if you were druid, hindu, shinto, shaman, whatever. i got love for all.
you keep going back to you understanding how muslims born and raised in britain and the usa
feel about what is happening to muslims in the mideast, and ignoring the essense of everything
i have mentioned thus far, as if a death penalty for any non sunni entering mecca or women
being persecuted and gays executed there and all muslims bowing down and praying there
has anything to do with brit/usa muslims, other than religion. i know my the history and present
pretty well, and that is why i asked several times for you to back up this equivalency and you are
failing miserably. you pointed to some priests f#cking kids and going to prison with 0%
public support for what they did and equating it to things i mentioned which 90% of muslims
worldwide endorse, including born and raised in the usa and britain. this is called moral relativism.
pointing to anything whatsoever so long as it doesn't upset the narrative that anything wrong
that happens anywhere on the planet is really the fault of "you know who". i don't hate muslims
and day to day i just want my neighbors to mow their lawns and respect each other, but at the
same time this is one religion that has no equivalents anywhere as far as intolerance, jihad, etc.

Hey Zeus f#cking Christ you can make some long ass responses on some agree to disagree type debates.

Go Google religious atrocities. You dont need my help.

And you keep mentioning moral relativity as if its not something everyone does. The US kills people all over the globe year in & year out & the only reason most US people dont see that as a bad immoral thing is cuz the US is doing it & selling the propaganda better than most countries can.

I can understand killing better when its in defense than when its on offense & the US has been killing for a long time.

[sucracristo]

I can understand killing better when its in defense than when its on offense & the US has been killing for a long time.

23 countries have death penalties or prison sentences for apostates (leaving the religion).
none of them catholic or lutheran or mormon or any such silliness. all 23 one religion.
i posted the polls of muslim sentiments among american and british born muslims toward
apostates and women and homosexuals. you keep going back to the reason for this
being military involvement in muslim countries and poverty and other dumb shit.
there would be the same justification by your logic for christians in the usa/uk to unify
against american/brit muslims for what is done to maronites and coptics, etc, in muslim
countries, but to then extend that to justifying christians endorsing some equivalent of shariah?
yeah we can agree to disagree on all of it.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Sucracristo, do some research for me ... since 2000,

Tally up all the innocent people killed by Muslim "extremists".

Tally up all the innocent people killed by America's "peace keeping" military. (These numbers will be skewed because all males over 12 are considered combatants.)

[BAD INTENTIONS]

So if your sad mind finds it necessary to continue instilling your "crippling guilt" for past sins, just do it in a less hypocritical and racist way

You can call my views "racists", but unlike you, I do not see any justification for 99% of war, murder and greed. I do not see any justification for ANY INSTANCE of hate. I'm not mentioning the evil that was done by Europeans as a way to make them feel guilty. I'm trying to say that they imposed a way of life on the world that wasn't/isn't sustainable or good in any way.

This way of life has been adopted by the entire world. So it shouldn't only be white people who feel guilty, it should be all of us. Many white people are the victims of this fucked up mentality. How many Russians (white people) died in WWII because of this fucked up mentality?

So please do me a favor, stop responding like you hang out with Freedom2013, and understand that I'm not attacking white Europeans (maybe the white Europeans who raped and murdered their way through America ... but then again, we should ALL hate their actions like we do the Nazis ... but for some reason, these guys are heroes in our history books.)

[ReggieDiggs]

I can understand killing better when its in defense than when its on offense & the US has been killing for a long time.

23 countries have death penalties or prison sentences for apostates (leaving the religion).
none of them catholic or lutheran or mormon or any such silliness. all 23 one religion.
i posted the polls of muslim sentiments among american and british born muslims toward
apostates and women and homosexuals. you keep going back to the reason for this
being military involvement in muslim countries and poverty and other dumb poo.
there would be the same justification by your logic for christians in the usa/uk to unify
against american/brit muslims for what is done to maronites and coptics, etc, in muslim
countries, but to then extend that to justifying christians endorsing some equivalent of shariah?
yeah we can agree to disagree on all of it.

The problem is you're taking the mild silly religion sh!t outta the mix & just looking @ the killing & sh!t. The comparison I made had f#ck all to do with the sh!t that wasn't comparable. I mentioned that, but you keep making comparisons that I didn't make about killing & sh!t (although its not like they don't have a past, present & likely a future), like I made them. Either you are mfing stupid like short bus or you are trying to put words in my mouth for w/e reason.

I do agree that if I was a Muslim I very likely would have extremely harsh opinions about the people killing people who believe things I believe in & like the Catholics preferring if the world as a whole lived under Catholic beliefs & if I was Muslim I'd likely prefer people live under those beliefs as well. This sh!t ain't that complicated. If long winded mfers who made weird cutoffs in their paragraphs & who kept trying to argue some agree to disagree sh!t started being attacked I'm guessing you might get a lil antsy bout sh!t too.

Randomly imho God is kinda a dick in any of the popular religious books so I think if God was real he'd probably want you to do some pretty f#cked up sh!t to non-believers. God is talking about raping women & killing first born sons & f#cking punking Job or whoever in the bible ffs. God is an asshole. If there is a God based on these religious books I'm guessing he's gonna be feeling these Muslim guys who are going old school rather than these prissy mfers half assing religious rules any damn way.

[punchoutsb]

You can call my views "racists", but unlike you, I do not see any justification for 99% of war, murder and greed. I do not see any justification for ANY INSTANCE of hate. I'm not mentioning the evil that was done by Europeans as a way to make them feel guilty. I'm trying to say that they imposed a way of life on the world that wasn't/isn't sustainable or good in any way.

And yet in this very thread you mention a need for "crippling guilt" and state you've spent your life arguing against "white man's" history?

This way of life has been adopted by the entire world. So it shouldn't only be white people who feel guilty, it should be all of us. Many white people are the victims of this fucked up mentality. How many Russians (white people) died in WWII because of this fucked up mentality?

So please do me a favor, stop responding like you hang out with Freedom2013, and understand that I'm not attacking white Europeans (maybe the white Europeans who raped and murdered their way through America ... but then again, we should ALL hate their actions like we do the Nazis ... but for some reason, these guys are heroes in our history books.)

So earlier in the thread, human kind is a benevolent bunch of social critters and now you say the entire world should feel guilty...nice flip flop.

You seem like a reasonably intelligent man, that's pretty apparent. Unfortunately this makes your racism the worst kind. Rather than ignorant racism where you hate someone because you know are uneducated and know nothing about them, you suffer from hypocritical racism where you pick and choose what information you share and choose to ignore. Rather than devoting the rest of your life to enlightening the world on how evil Europeans are you should read up a little on the good that ALL people's have done, including those evil white folks.

[coneye]

So please do me a favor, stop responding like you hang out with Freedom2013, and understand that I'm not attacking white Europeans (maybe the white Europeans who raped and murdered their way through America ... but then again, we should ALL hate their actions like we do the Nazis ... but for some reason, these guys are heroes in our history books.)

Fair points , but do you hate , The japanese for , what they done in China years ago .. Do you hate Blacks for what certain Tribes done years ago , in fact what some are still doing today in certain countries , across Africa

Or is it only white europeans , who raped and mudered there way across America that should be put in the same basket has the nazis

[sucracristo]

If long winded mfers who made weird cutoffs in their paragraphs.

oh how dare you, sir. for penance you must now perform 4 our fathers, 3 hail marys, and 2 suicide bombings

[ReggieDiggs]

If long winded mfers who made weird cutoffs in their paragraphs.

oh how dare you, sir. for penance you must now perform 4 our fathers, 3 hail marys, and 2 suicide bombings

lol

[BAD INTENTIONS]

90+% of the people killed by militant Muslims are FELLOW Muslims & I'm sure you'll find some twisted way to blame US for that:

Over 90% of blacks are killed in the US are by other blacks.

Of course, the US is completely innocent in creating that situation ...

[Sklar]

Ineffectual or otherwise, the stated objective of IS is to establish an Islamic caliphate that spans the entire globe. All who do not wish to stand with them are deemed an enemy; that includes other Muslims along with the rest of us. It is unbelievably misguided and arrogant to arrive at the conclusion that combating US foreign policy is their raison d'etre.

[SenorPipino]

It appears a good number of you are pondering the option of signing up for a tour of duty with ISIS.
Do us a favor, and take the loud-mouth fanatic Khan with you. Then there will be one less scumbag who hates America but nevertheless hopes to enrich himself with our dollars.

[SenorPipino]

It appears a good number of you are pondering the option of signing up for a tour of duty with ISIS.
Do us a favor, and take the loud-mouth fanatic Khan with you. Then there will be one less scumbag who hates America but nevertheless hopes to enrich himself with our dollars.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

A "Senorpipino" defending the USA like there's no tomorrow.

fornicating sellout.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

All the guys who are dressing up as Captain America this Halloween are scared to consider the following statistics.

Since 2000 ...

Tally up all the innocent people killed by Muslim "extremists".

Tally up all the innocent people killed by America's "peace keeping" military. (These numbers will be skewed because all males over 12 are considered combatants.)

What a world ... the "good guys" kill the most innocent people.

[ReggieDiggs]

All the guys who are dressing up as Captain America this Halloween are scared to consider the following statistics.

Since 2000 ...

Tally up all the innocent people killed by Muslim "extremists".

Tally up all the innocent people killed by America's "peace keeping" military. (These numbers will be skewed because all males over 12 are considered combatants.)

What a world ... the "good guys" kill the most innocent people.

You gotta read the rulebook brother. Its okay to kill innocent people if they aren't white &/or don't speak English. Not enough people care in the "countries that matter" & if they do care they don't have enough centered power to make a difference or are scared of losing that power if they do use it. Maybe the US government would get some sh!t for killing some Mexicans, but being so close to us would make them an exception to the rule.

[sucracristo]

you gotta read the rulebook brother. Its okay to kill innocent people if they aren't white &/or don't speak English.

at least if your name is barak hussein obama, it's ok.
he got a nobel peace prize the month he took office after all.
isn't more al qaeda, isis, taliban, boko haram, hamas, hezbolla members what every homeowners association
is trying to achieve? property values through the roof, baby!! get those white male english-speaking hetero capitalists
outa here!!

[ReggieDiggs]

you gotta read the rulebook brother. Its okay to kill innocent people if they aren't white &/or don't speak English.

at least if your name is barak hussein obama, it's ok.
he got a nobel peace prize the month he took office after all.
isn't more al qaeda, isis, taliban, boko haram, hamas, hezbolla members what every homeowners association
is trying to achieve? property values through the roof, baby!! get those white male english-speaking hetero capitalists
outa here!!

The only people who think its ok if Obama is doing it instead of a Bush or whoever are probably white person with higher than normal levels of white guilt or black people who see Obama as the Jackie Robinson of presidents & he could nuke Maine off the map & they'd be alrite with it.

[Counter-puncher]

Do us a favor, and take the loud-mouth fanatic Khan with you. Then there will be one less scumbag who hates America but nevertheless hopes to enrich himself with our dollars.

he's not a loudmouth fanatic, he's nothing of the sort. what on earth have you seen or heard that would make you think that?