No, Mayweather is.Ricky_ wrote:Gennady Golovkin is the best p4p on the planet by a considerable distance.
Thank you.Impractical Poster wrote:There's the Ring p4p lists, boxrec, and many others. But, Horse's is the truth!! Rarely will you find two P4P lists the same. So that being said, Horse's are consistently well put together lists.
jezzamundo wrote:I always enjoy them and tend to find only minor quibbles to pick.
Horse wrote:Alvarez has just beaten Lara and Mayweather did a lot better against Alvarez than Lara.Chepppaaa wrote:canelo, bradley, marquez, hopkins, ward are out of p4p. guys like lara, golovkin, kovalev, gonzales are in!!!
Lara is not very good. He is a hypejob.Chepppaaa wrote:ward stopped and it is unsure when and if he comes back.
canelo had 0 chance vs lara. lara beat himself, because he simply stopped punching at all. while lara is dumb, no doubt, he still is an elite boxer, anybody who doesnt see his skill or athletic ability doesnt kow boxing.
kell brook would totaly technicly dominate bradley/ thurman would totaly brutalize bradley
marquez is past it, he should be nowhere a p4p list. he lost totaly to an overrated bradley and the only thing he did good, was having a lucky punch in a fight he was loosing, now he is old
X gonne get wrecked by kovalev, he has already been easily beating by a guy adonis needed around 5 minutes for
Bradley is much better than Lara.
You are either a dunce or a troll.Chepppaaa wrote:dude...u dont understand boxing...i said it before...its worthless talking to you about it. you go by "likes" and dont see what realy happened
Horse wrote:No, Mayweather is.Ricky_ wrote:Gennady Golovkin is the best p4p on the planet by a considerable distance.
Golovkin's best win is against Geale. Geale wouldn't qualify for a place in Mayweather's top 10 wins P4P-wise. He'd probably be in Mayweather's top 20 though.
Alvarez is clearly better than anyone Golovkin has beaten and Maidana is probably better as well.Ricky_ wrote:Mayweather's snoozefest catchweight win over Canelo is still just about recent enough to keep him in the top 5 and i'd have Ward off of there completely 'til he decides to, you know, box.
I agree. Said the same thing about Pong for years. They both held flyweight belts at the same time for years but never made any effort to unify or fight each other. They always had top 20 p4p talent but never seemed interested in owning the division or fighting each other. Chris John was in the same boat, am sure there are others we can nameHorse wrote:He's been a world champion for over 12 years and he's never unified? Why is that?giacomino wrote:Re: Narvaez. At 39, I thought his recent win over his young, tough mandatory Orucuta, was impressive. I expected him to lose and was impressed he could still beat a much bigger, younger and harder hitting opponent. I might sneak him in at 30ish, although can't see him fighting much longer
It's impressive that he can still beat top 10 ranked opponents at 38, but he really should have done far more with his career. I don't understand his lack of ambition.
Horse wrote:Alvarez is clearly better than anyone Golovkin has beaten and Maidana is probably better as well.Ricky_ wrote:Mayweather's snoozefest catchweight win over Canelo is still just about recent enough to keep him in the top 5 and i'd have Ward off of there completely 'til he decides to, you know, box.
Having a guy like Golovkin as No. 1, with only a couple of decent wins, would be ridiculous.
Beating Geale and Macklin is simply not good enough.
I do not care whether Golovkin has the best ability in the business or not.Ricky_ wrote:and again you fall into the trap of considering opponent level the only factor in your rankings, over the last x-amount of years where x is anything you please in search of justification.
Are you not able to assess a fighter's ability and skill level simply be watching his technique, assessing his style/tactics, how he moves and sets punches up?
Horse wrote:I do not care whether Golovkin has the best ability in the business or not.
Can Golovkin show this abillity against a similar level of fighter that Mayweather and others above him in the list have? that is arguable.Ricky_ wrote:Horse wrote:I do not care whether Golovkin has the best ability in the business or not.
Hence why many of these lists are nothing more than cherrypicked résumé dick measuring contests. SRL had a superior résumé than SRR.
You think Golovkin will break his hands on Martins jaw?Horse wrote:Martin Murray will deal with Golovkin soon enough.
Stop trying to groom him.Horse wrote:You are either a dunce or a troll.Chepppaaa wrote:dude...u dont understand boxing...i said it before...its worthless talking to you about it. you go by "likes" and dont see what realy happened
Ricky_ wrote:Horse wrote:No, Mayweather is.Ricky_ wrote:Gennady Golovkin is the best p4p on the planet by a considerable distance.
Golovkin's best win is against Geale. Geale wouldn't qualify for a place in Mayweather's top 10 wins P4P-wise. He'd probably be in Mayweather's top 20 though.
This is where your lists go wrong. You've just placed justification for Mayweather being above Golovkin due to the names on his overall resume.
How does Mayweather's win over Oscar 7 years ago place him as greater fighter, pound-for-pound than Golovkin, in "October 2014" as per the title of your post, in the forum "Current Scene"?
It's irrelevant. That Mayweather is gone. In 2014 we have a 37 year old man who took 2 attempts to outland & lodge a convincing scorecard over a C-level guy like Maidana. A fighter seemingly incapable of inflicting more than a busted lip with a punch or doing anything other than clinching on the inside or running & pot-shotting on the outside. To suggest this is currently the best boxing has to offer is an insult to the sport.
Mayweather's snoozefest catchweight win over Canelo is still just about recent enough to keep him in the top 5 and i'd have Ward off of there completely 'til he decides to, you know, box.
Horse wrote:Alvarez is clearly better than anyone Golovkin has beaten and Maidana is probably better as well.Ricky_ wrote:Mayweather's snoozefest catchweight win over Canelo is still just about recent enough to keep him in the top 5 and i'd have Ward off of there completely 'til he decides to, you know, box.
Having a guy like Golovkin as No. 1, with only a couple of decent wins, would be ridiculous.
Beating Geale and Macklin is simply not good enough.
For sex?palooka wrote:Stop trying to groom him.
His opposition hasn't been very good. He only has two world level wins.Chepppaaa wrote:what the heck u talking about......a couple of descent fights
NateJR wrote:I like the list although I would have Rigo at #3 and wouldn't have Gonzalez quite so high. Just my opinion though, can't make everyone happy lol. Nothing wrong with still having Ward at #2 IMO, he's still among the very best in the sport and I'm with you his skills have more than likely not gone anywhere during this long layoff he's had. Many fighters have taken long layoffs and came back as good or even better than they were before and Ward is still relatively young. If anything this layoff could be the best thing for Ward to give his body time to heal, it's actually something fighters should do more often and is often overlooked.
NateJR wrote:I see the normal assclowns of this forum are crying as always because Floyd is still #1 and been crushing their dreams for the last decade or more. Poor sad people let me tell you, stay mad bitches lol.
GGG hasn't fought anyone as good as Madaina in his entire professional career you phucktards lmao. Get off GGGs dick, he doesn't deserve to hold Floyds jock strap.
Who knows what you do with the poor devils?Horse wrote:For sex?palooka wrote:Stop trying to groom him.
