Boycott the pay per view or you build an expensive monster

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Boycott the pay per view or you build an expensive monster

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All uk fight fans should boycott the bellew v cleverly fight on Ppv , yes a good fight but this is going to be the start of things to come every 50/50 fight which is a good fight or a grudge match we will all have to pay more of our hard earned money for ,Matchroom are going to do this more and more and the only way it can be stopped is by making a statement and not paying for it
The show is a good show and some good fights but stop this now before we all have to do it regular ,if the is low viewing sky will pull the plug on ppv unless it's a block buster . Meaning we will watch them all on our normal sky package
We pay enough !
Do not buy
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Post by smoothmoves »

It's very naive to think that they would put this type of card on SS1 if we boycott the PPV. More likely, the situation would be that a card like this would happen once in a blue moon. If at all.

By all means boycott the show (I'm not buying), but don't expect to have any impact. They'll be happy with 100k for this.
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1 nut wrote:All uk fight fans should boycott the bellew v cleverly fight on Ppv , yes a good fight but this is going to be the start of things to come every 50/50 fight which is a good fight or a grudge match we will all have to pay more of our hard earned money for ,Matchroom are going to do this more and more and the only way it can be stopped is by making a statement and not paying for it
The show is a good show and some good fights but stop this now before we all have to do it regular ,if the is low viewing sky will pull the plug on ppv unless it's a block buster . Meaning we will watch them all on our normal sky package
We pay enough !
Do not buy
Why would Sky pull the plug on future PPV's if the viewing figures for this are low??? Even with low viewing figures they are still making profit!

The only way they would cancel future PPV's is if they were losing out somewhere. E.G. if a large percentage of the boxing community decided to cancel their Sky Sports subscription because they though "whats the point in subscribing to Sky Sports in order to watch my favourite sport if I have to pay extra on top of my already expensive subscription to watch it anyway!"

The only sport I really give a shit about is boxing (and UFC sometimes) anyway. Therefore, if you ask me, I think all boxing on Sky should be PPV (ranging fro £5 to £20 PPV), so I do not have to subscribe to the rest of the crap shown on Sky Sports for £24.50 a month (which I do not BTW) just so I can watch a crappy mismatched card every month or so!
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I'm boycotting. No way will I pay for this fight, whatever is on the undercard.
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If they put anything resembling a decent fight or fighter on PPV , guessing Joshua would be the next then there is no point having SKY Sports to watch the Hearn fighter beat up TBA before announcing his next 'meaningful' fight would be on PPV.
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Post by punchdrunkgench »

i think its a great idea to organise a boycott ive already signed the petion thats doing the rounds and whilst i accept it wont probably make a differnce its better to have a say than not be heard at all and its important that hearn and sky dont get away with this ppv for domestic level crap they are feeding us im happy for to pay for certain ppv cards but they should be top top draw fights with stacked and competitive undercards basically the opposite of what we are being asked to pay for the shambles thats bellew cleverly
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Sky won't be getting any extra money from me for this PPV.
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I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
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ScottDetonator wrote:I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
If memory serves, I think Tyson vs Bruno 2 was the first ever Sky PPV.
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
ScottDetonator wrote:I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
If memory serves, I think Tyson vs Bruno 2 was the first ever Sky PPV.
That PPV went on all evening and all night if remember, was Welch v Bugner on that one too as well as a Naseem Hamed World Title fight and the US show too, that is what a PPV should be
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Boxerbeetle wrote:
ScottDetonator wrote:I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
If memory serves, I think Tyson vs Bruno 2 was the first ever Sky PPV.
I believe you're right.

No way am I shelling out for this. It's an interesting domestic scrap, the undercard is full of 80/20 matches, it's no where near being PPV worthy. None of the fighters on the bill are in a position to be making excessive demands that would justify PPV, there is simply no excuse other than greed for them doing this.

The Fury/Chisora show, if it miraculously holds together, is better than this.
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That PPV went on all evening and all night if remember, was Welch v Bugner on that one too as well as a Naseem Hamed World Title fight and the US show too, that is what a PPV should be[/quote]

Jogged the memory now. Initially they had a British Card then one from elsewhere in the world featuring a top fighter not just a British level fight.
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tony1234 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
ScottDetonator wrote:I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
If memory serves, I think Tyson vs Bruno 2 was the first ever Sky PPV.
That PPV went on all evening and all night if remember, was Welch v Bugner on that one too as well as a Naseem Hamed World Title fight and the US show too, that is what a PPV should be
Welch v Bugner - now there's an unwelcome memory...
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Post by Andrew »

I agree with everything here and have slated this enough.

I can't watch the fight that night anyway as I'm at a gig but it's future implications as a result of this which are my biggest concerns.

We 'the hardcore ' who see through the hype can boycott it all we want but this is in the hands of the casuals.
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Post by PokerRob »

Naandrew wrote:I agree with everything here and have slated this enough.

I can't watch the fight that night anyway as I'm at a gig but it's future implications as a result of this which are my biggest concerns.

We 'the hardcore ' who see through the hype can boycott it all we want but this is in the hands of the casuals.
I honestly dont think boycotting this PPV is the way to go... Even if this is the lowest PPV event in terms of ratings in UK history, Sky and Matchroom will still make money because your still paying them (even if you boycott) through your Sky Sports subscription...

All it means if you boycott is that YOU wont get to watch the event, while Sky and Matchroom will still get YOUR money through YOUR Sky Sports subscription... The only difference is they wont make anything of advertising, so they might lose out a little if PPV ratings are low but not much...

Now, if you really want to make a punch, cancel your Sky Sports subcription (as well preferably) stating the reason(s) why!!!
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PokerRob wrote: The only sport I really give a poo about is boxing (and UFC sometimes) anyway. Therefore, if you ask me, I think all boxing on Sky should be PPV (ranging fro £5 to £20 PPV), so I do not have to subscribe to the rest of the crap shown on Sky Sports for £24.50 a month (which I do not BTW) just so I can watch a crappy mismatched card every month or so!

I completely agree with this. PPV for non Sky Sports subscribers. I don't subscribe to Sky Sports so would be quite happy to pay for individual cards if anything interesting crops up, but I don't think the current output is worth the monthly subs.
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PokerRob wrote:The only sport I really give a poo about is boxing (and UFC sometimes) anyway. Therefore, if you ask me, I think all boxing on Sky should be PPV (ranging fro £5 to £20 PPV), so I do not have to subscribe to the rest of the crap shown on Sky Sports for £24.50 a month (which I do not BTW) just so I can watch a crappy mismatched card every month or so!
This is my line too. I don't like subscription based TV or the Telly Tax. Once you've bought the required hardware and software, everything should be PPV, charged from £0.01 and upwards.
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Post by rio »

Get ready this is only the start. Joshua has an absolute max of 5 fights left before everyone of his fights is ppv for the rest of his career. Sky really need to stop this monopoly and give promoters like Hennessey, hatton ect some dates. Matchrooms monopoly simply has not worked, the majority of cards are stacked with 80/20 fights that no one wants to see
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Something seems fundamentally wrong with a sport that tells you that a fight of this stature cannot happen without PPV.
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Cholo_cws wrote:Something seems fundamentally wrong with a sport that tells you that a fight of this stature cannot happen without PPV.
The thing is Eddie confirmed last week in an interview with Kugan on YouTube that he could have put the fight on SKY Sports and only decided last minute to make it PPV. Reason being he wants to make the whole night / undercard a special event for British boxing. Total bs from Eddie, mugging regular SKY Sports subscribers right off.
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Cholo_cws wrote:Something seems fundamentally wrong with a sport that tells you that a fight of this stature cannot happen without PPV.
Yes, the lunatics have taken over the asylum. There's no point in a boxing fan shelling out for SKY Sports. I'm not paying out for this one and if this is the way the sport is going then I'll cut my losses.
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martinmrts wrote:I completely agree with this. PPV for non Sky Sports subscribers.
Now THAT'S a brilliant idea. Only non Sky Sports subscribers should have to shell out for PPV events.
It'll never happen though :-(
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tony1234 wrote:
Boxerbeetle wrote:
ScottDetonator wrote:I've paid for PPV's since they started, think my first was a Tyson fight in the early hours? I've even paid for the setanta ones.

Anyway, not a chance I'm paying for Clev - Bellew. Two domestic level fighters with some beef that I couldn't care less about. Both been beaten well and neither will go down as anywhere near a great even at British level.
If memory serves, I think Tyson vs Bruno 2 was the first ever Sky PPV.
That PPV went on all evening and all night if remember, was Welch v Bugner on that one too as well as a Naseem Hamed World Title fight and the US show too, that is what a PPV should be
And now look where we are heading!

As all ready said above, all Joshua's fights will be PPV after another year. Plus then, any decent match-ups will be (Quiggv Framton etc)... Probs 4+ events every year at £20 nicker.

We are going to be paying through our noses for our weekend fights if most of us aren't all ready with the Sky Subs, BN Subs and everything that comes with it. I don't see how it helps long term for the sport to grow but obviously money comes first and the steps are all ready set in concrete. Selling us crap and expecting us all just to take it, or probably Eddie's stance - Don't pay then and don't watch it. Thanks for the memories!
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Post by ScottDetonator »

Nearly forgot to add Brook's next few fights as well, surely they will be PPV until he loses the belt?
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ScottDetonator wrote:Nearly forgot to add Brook's next few fights as well, surely they will be PPV until he loses the belt?
If he fights ?
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