Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
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sergio martinez or Murray (in monaco)
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Needs to be Cotto or Quillin in terms of name building, as for looking for a challenge... i don't think anyone brings a challenge. Cotto is possibly a top 5 p4p name at the moment since joining Roach but's he's out his depth at middleweight and would probably get sent into retirement by GGG, but he'd bring a skillset to the ring over and above what GGG has been in with before.
Challenge wise, it needs to Froch or Chavez next.
Challenge wise, it needs to Froch or Chavez next.
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Sergio is not so desperate to face GGG. Murray has balls issue beside his visa issue.cold187 wrote:sergio martinez or Murray (in monaco)
Even though, these are not big money fights, I think Korobov and Lemieux are the most dangerous MW opponents for Golovkin out there. Korobov is a very skillful and accurate counter puncher with sufficient power to drop GGG. He will not last the distance, but his puncher's chance may be the best in the division. Lemieux has a good puncher's chance just due to his raw power and the fact that GGG will likely stand in front of him.
It would also be interesting to see GGG against a runner like N'Dam, Lara or Andre Dirrell.
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Freedom2013
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Re: Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
Matt Korobov, Erislandy Lara, David Lemieux and Billy Joe Saunders are the only ones who might be brave enough to fight him
Korobov-Golovkin is an easy HBO fight to make.
Korobov-Golovkin is an easy HBO fight to make.
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Seriously ? Cotto is #5 p4p ??? Based on wins over a journeyman and crippled Sergio ? Then Golovkin is #1 p4p. Cotto is still a good opponent for name building the same way as Canelo, JCCJ, Froch, Kessler. Ward would of course be a great fight in terms of a challenge and name building, so hopefully it will happen later when Andre realizes who is an A side in that equation.Ricky_ wrote:Needs to be Cotto or Quillin in terms of name building, as for looking for a challenge... i don't think anyone brings a challenge. Cotto is possibly a top 5 p4p name at the moment since joining Roach but's he's out his depth at middleweight and would probably get sent into retirement by GGG, but he'd bring a skillset to the ring over and above what GGG has been in with before.
Challenge wise, it needs to Froch or Chavez next.
Quillin doesn't bring anything in terms of name building or even a challenge. Unless he gets a belt from Taylor, he is of no interest for GGG.
P.S. If Hopkins manages to escape serious damage in the Kovalev fight, Hopkins at 170 would be a great fight too.
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Cotto's plans are to fight Alvarez, I don't think many would disagree with that. Of the other guys in the top-10, I am not sure if the Quillin fight can come off and I think Quillin is aiming for a big NYC showdown with Jacobs. A fight with Quillin would be ideal if he could get it though. Martinez's career hangs in the balance and Golovkin wouldn't get much credit for beating him. Murray would be a good fight in Monaco, though I was under the impression that Golovkin's people already offered him a fight. Taylor's mandatory is N'Dam but if GGG could get a fight with Taylor for his title, it would be a slaughter and an easy title unification and stay busy fight. Geale was already wrecked, Soliman isn't viable after his loss, Sturm is fighting Stieglitz, Saunders is fighting Eubank Jr. and Macklin was crushed.
I think the winner of Lee-Korobov makes sense. Lemieux might be fun while it lasts. I think Froch, Chavez Jr., Lara, or Kirkland would be good.
I think the winner of Lee-Korobov makes sense. Lemieux might be fun while it lasts. I think Froch, Chavez Jr., Lara, or Kirkland would be good.
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G.McClellan
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Re: Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
Korobov v GGG is probably the only fight worth making. Billy Saunders has already said in a an interview GGG would K.O. him and Eubank's Jr on the same night. So I don't see that being a fight worth making. Depending on how well he progresses, Eubank's Jr would be a great fight in a year's time.
Taylor, Cotto, Froch, Quillin etc shouldn't feature for obvious reasons. None of which have anything to do with their promoters. Chavez Jr is another fight that makes sense.
Taylor, Cotto, Froch, Quillin etc shouldn't feature for obvious reasons. None of which have anything to do with their promoters. Chavez Jr is another fight that makes sense.
Re: Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
Of those mentioned, the Lee-Korobov winner and Martin Murray (in Monaco) seem most likely to me.
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down the line it should be canelo. canelo is already a super star. if HBO builds and keeps on hyping GGG, simply build him right and GGG learns better english and keeps showcasing his skills and become a superstar himself, than down the line GGG vs Canelo is a fantastic ppv match up. also, canelo is a big 154 boxer, he wont be able forever to be at that weight class, therefore go 1 division higher and there only 1 name is interesting in 1 year.
as for now. jermain taylor. because taylor looked strong against solid solimain and public know taylor. for taylor its good, because it would bring arguably the best money available except cotto. for ggg its very good, because i think it would turn out as a great fight, because taylor is no featherfisted nobody, the dude is tall, has a quality punch and is champion.
as for now. jermain taylor. because taylor looked strong against solid solimain and public know taylor. for taylor its good, because it would bring arguably the best money available except cotto. for ggg its very good, because i think it would turn out as a great fight, because taylor is no featherfisted nobody, the dude is tall, has a quality punch and is champion.
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You know you're on the rise when everyone has already written your current opponent off and is listing the next vic, oops, I mean competitor.
It would be a major upset and shock to the system if Rubio cans GGG in the first round.
It would be a major upset and shock to the system if Rubio cans GGG in the first round.
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He should fight Lara. Probably a week before Canelo/Cotto fight, or even as an undercard. If he wins in style and more convincingly then Canelo he will put him under presser to fight.
Other then that Korobov, Taylor and Murray are all good fights.
Other then that Korobov, Taylor and Murray are all good fights.
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Not sure Cotto would take that fight.
The only thing GGG can do is go up to Super Middle. Take out someone like Sakio Bika or Robert Stieglitz first to prove he is fine with the extra weight, and then fight the winner of Froch Vs Chavez Jr.
The only thing GGG can do is go up to Super Middle. Take out someone like Sakio Bika or Robert Stieglitz first to prove he is fine with the extra weight, and then fight the winner of Froch Vs Chavez Jr.
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ikorolev wrote:Sergio is not so desperate to face GGG. Murray has balls issue beside his visa issue.cold187 wrote:sergio martinez or Murray (in monaco)
Balls issue???
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Lara has said before he would move up to face GGG. Why not? Interesting fight.
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Let's not forget that Korobov dominated in the world amateur scene for many years with most of his fights ending before the final bell. Among his victims, one can find Kovalev and Sillakh. He is being moved slowly, because of his stamina and/or motivation issues.fergusg wrote: The only other name being regularly mentioned in this thread is Matt Korobov, which should be an extremely easy bout to make, from purely a political perspective, especially if he gains the WBO title.
That being said, Matt Korobov is untested and he hasn’t faced anyone that could be remotely considered amongst the top-tier world-class 160lb-ers… and even though he’s fighting for a world title in his next bout, he’ll actually be competing against a man better suited to the 154lb weight class (according to Andy Lee himself, when he was interviewed by Box-Nation).
Therefore, I think it’s better to keep Korobov away from Golovkin until he builds-up an impressive resume, because it’s not really a commercially-attractive fight at this point in time, as neither man will gain very much financially. However, this is one of few guys that I’d love to see fight Golovkin… and as a hard-core fan, this could be fun to watch.
By the way, does anyone know why Korobov’s career has been progressed so slowly?
6'2" Lee has fought all his career except one fight at MW, so you can't really trust his words after the surprise win over an opponent who was dominating him. I don't see Lee beating Korobov, so GGG vs Korobov would be a unification fight and by far the best payday for Korobov. The fight will be competitive for up to 4 rounds. If Korobov is not able to counter and drop Golovkin by round 5, Matt will end up like everybody else with KO/TKO loss on his record. This would be the most risky fight at MW for GGG at this time.
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sucracristo
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Re: Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
lee-korobov winner. 3g said right after his last fight he wanted to unify the belts.
soliman was beating taylor before messing up his knee and fighting the 2nd half on one leg.
if there was a rematch i would pick soliman, so i don't get the argument that soliman has
been discredited after his loss to taylor, because he wasn't. sturm is still ranked and if
you look at all the guys ranked by the 4 major belts, i see a more names soliman could
beat. he could be ranked again after his next fight.
soliman was beating taylor before messing up his knee and fighting the 2nd half on one leg.
if there was a rematch i would pick soliman, so i don't get the argument that soliman has
been discredited after his loss to taylor, because he wasn't. sturm is still ranked and if
you look at all the guys ranked by the 4 major belts, i see a more names soliman could
beat. he could be ranked again after his next fight.
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sucracristo
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ok, i take it you didn't actually watch the fight. taylor was losing badly, basically every round, before solimanfergusg wrote: Soliman fight when the Aussie was comprehensively defeated by Jermain Taylor in his previous bout.
There’s no justification for Jermain Taylor to grant Sam Soliman a rematch, because the bout wasn’t even remotely close.
cranked his knee. my comments on soliman were really just in response to the other comments made about him
and that fight in this thread. the rematch in australia would make as much probably as taylor could get against
most of the other names being mentioned for taylor, but a healthy soliman already proved he is better than taylor.
taylor will lose the belt, so he should just go for the most money. he also shot a guy recently and who knows
if that goes to court what will happen. aussies would show up for that fight and there is as much of a reason
for a rematch as there is taylor fighting the other names people are putting out.
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sucracristo
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ok so you aren't going to admit not seeing a fight you obviously didn't seefergusg wrote: I had Taylor a couple of points up after six rounds, when Soliman started to repeatedly hit the deck from rounds 7 onwards.
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Taylor wasn't "losing badly, basically every round" ferchristsakes. Neither fighter did shite the first two rounds and it was fairly even before Soliman fell apart. It was mostly shadow-boxing and missed punches the first half of the fight. "Losing badly" denotes one fighter was superior. These two were mostly inferior.
As far as the original question, if Quillin won't fight him, I'd go with Korobov after he beats up Lee or Alvarez. Anyone else at middleweight is a short, one-sided fight
As far as the original question, if Quillin won't fight him, I'd go with Korobov after he beats up Lee or Alvarez. Anyone else at middleweight is a short, one-sided fight
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drunkenpiper36
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Re: Who’s next for GGG after Rubio?
Andre Ward, Peter Quillin, and Miguel Cotto are the only men who are legitimately qualified to be in the ring with him and none of those fights are likely to happen.
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How is Quillin more qualified than Korovov after Matt gets the title ? Naming Quillin between Ward and Cotto is just plain ridiculous.drunkenpiper36 wrote:Andre Ward, Peter Quillin, and Miguel Cotto are the only men who are legitimately qualified to be in the ring with him and none of those fights are likely to happen.
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drunkenpiper36
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ikorolev wrote:How is Quillin more qualified than Korovov after Matt gets the title ? Naming Quillin between Ward and Cotto is just plain ridiculous.drunkenpiper36 wrote:Andre Ward, Peter Quillin, and Miguel Cotto are the only men who are legitimately qualified to be in the ring with him and none of those fights are likely to happen.
Matt Korobov can't be ranked over Quillin.. but sorry...I left out ONE f--king guy and of course you saw an opportunity to jump all over it like flies on dung.... It would have been just as easy to say " you may also want to include ( insert name ) " but all the more power to you...
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... except adding Korobov would make your statement
invalid.and none of those fights are likely to happen.
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drunkenpiper36
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ikorolev wrote:... except adding Korobov would make your statementinvalid.and none of those fights are likely to happen.
Its perfectly valid. Cotto, Ward and Quillen aren't likely to take those fights and Korobov doesn't make that tier regardless of weather he fights GGG or not..
Thanks.
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Quillin doesn't belong to Ward's and Cotto's tiers. After Korobov beats Lee, he will have a better resume than Quillin and he will have a belt making him way more interesting opponent than Quittin.