Thurman vs Bundu?

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keirw
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Thurman vs Bundu?

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Thurman's next fight is rumoured to be against Leonard Bundu in December.
Strange choice of opponent in my opinion, Bundu is a good fighter who I'm sure will give Thurman a decent fight, but he is relatively unknown outside Europe.
If Bundu makes Thurman work for the victory (which I think he will) Thurman will be seen as going life and death with a fringe contender, by the more cynical members of the boxing public at least.
Even if he wins handily he won't get the credit he would deserve for the victory.
A strange piece of match making from Thurman's team, but it could be a good fight.
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Good fight if it happens. Might not do anything for Thurman's profile in the US but could increase it in Europe seen as Bundu, although not a star, is European champ. I'd expect Bundu to do well but Thurman will just be too much for him.
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IMO Thurman takes this quite easily. If the Bundu Gavin fight was close for Gavin then Thurman should win by a landslide.
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ArmaanCFC wrote:IMO Thurman takes this quite easily. If the Bundu Gavin fight was close for Gavin then Thurman should win by a landslide.

Styles make fights.

Gavin is a slippery southpaw and hard to look against. I'd expect Thurman to win but if he makes this look easy, he'll go up in my estimation. Bundu is a very good fighter and hits harder than his record suggests. Wouldn't surprise me one bit if he made it a very hard night's work for Thurman.
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I don't see it as a strange choice at all. Noone wants to fight Thurman and Bundu seems to be an easy guy to make a fight with, has a crowdpleasing style and is very beatable.

Thurman wins handily.
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Yawn. A 40 year old man who's barely stepped foot out of Italy other than to be drafted into Britain as a high class journeyman to test out British prospects.

I think boxing has done itself some damage in 2014, the matchmaking has been atrocious, Dana White must be laughing his ass off. Floyd fought a C level brawler... twice. Pacquiao, the other big draw, is fighting a guy hardly anyone has ever even heard of with a style not cut out for prize fighting. Klitchko fought his usual bum of the month. Cotto Martinez looked good on paper and turned out to be a farce. In the UK they are trying to flog Bellew vs Cleverly as a PPV.

Thank god for Carl Froch & George Groves.
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For what its worth bundu is rated as the #12 welterweight here on boxrec. I think it'll do enough to vault him inside the top 10, although I would have preferred to see him against Robert guerrero now that khan is going to be facing alexander instead (strangely enough on the same card). has anyone seen bundu fight?

On another note, this card will also have Andrade vs. Jermell charlo which will make a great card. Also in las vegas that night, top rank is putting tim Bradley against diego chaves and matt korobov vs andy lee. Why do they insist on doing this? It would be so much better to place these cards on alternating weekends so that we don't have soooooo many dead Saturdays....
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Bundu is a very good fighter. I like Thurman in this but it shouldn't be a walk in the park. And if it is I'll be very impressed. Nothing wrong with this fight at all.
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Thurman doesn't have a luxury of choosing. He needs to destroy whoever is placed in front of him until it is absolutely impossible for top opponents to avoid him without being seen as duckers.
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ikorolev wrote:Thurman doesn't have a luxury of choosing. He needs to destroy whoever is placed in front of him until it is absolutely impossible for top opponents to avoid him without being seen as duckers.
But they already look like that because no high profile boxer will fight him.
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He needs to destroy a few more decent opponents like Bundu to get on top of WW ratings and get more media coverage. Then he will be much harder to duck.
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Hopefully the winner (probably Thurman) will fight the winner of Khan/Alexander. Don't hold your breath though.
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Eh, not excited if this is the fight.
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Keith is already #1 WBA. Beating Bundu will probably make him #2 WBC behind Khan, so a fight against Khan would be logical. He will also probably become #1 IBF. If he beats Khan, he is mandatory for Maywether in both WBA and WBC. It will be really hard to pretend that he is nobody after that.
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ikorolev wrote:Keith is already #1 WBA. Beating Bundu will probably make him #2 WBC behind Khan, so a fight against Khan would be logical. He will also probably become #1 IBF. If he beats Khan, he is mandatory for Maywether in both WBA and WBC. It will be really hard to pretend that he is nobody after that.
That's a good point regarding the IBF rankings! Does that mean if he won he's become mandatory for Kell Brook's belt aswell?
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Al Haymon at work again.
Two guys that are signed to him fighting, never would have thunk it :roll:
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Ricky_ wrote:Yawn. A 40 year old man who's barely stepped foot out of Italy other than to be drafted into Britain as a high class journeyman to test out British prospects.
An undefeated journeyman who rarely ever journeys, is rarely ever matched as the underdog, and has a top 15 ranking on boxrec. I don't think you're making good use of the term journeyman.
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Lackeos wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Yawn. A 40 year old man who's barely stepped foot out of Italy other than to be drafted into Britain as a high class journeyman to test out British prospects.
An undefeated journeyman who rarely ever journeys, is rarely ever matched as the underdog, and has a top 15 ranking on boxrec. I don't think you're making good use of the term journeyman.
Sorry I meant legit prospect with aspirations to fight floyd or pac if he can get the relevant experience beyond domestic level before he reaches pension age.
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Ricky_ wrote:
Lackeos wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Yawn. A 40 year old man who's barely stepped foot out of Italy other than to be drafted into Britain as a high class journeyman to test out British prospects.
An undefeated journeyman who rarely ever journeys, is rarely ever matched as the underdog, and has a top 15 ranking on boxrec. I don't think you're making good use of the term journeyman.
Sorry I meant legit prospect with aspirations to fight floyd or pac if he can get the relevant experience beyond domestic level before he reaches pension age.
Is it not possible to be somewhere in between?
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ArmaanCFC wrote:IMO Thurman takes this quite easily. If the Bundu Gavin fight was close for Gavin then Thurman should win by a landslide.
It wasn't a close fight. Bundu dropped him with what many thought to be a nothing shot. He had Gavin on the ropes and in trouble in the latter half of the fight. Bundu might be 39, but he's a well condition 39, who looks and boxes like he's 10 years younger than he is.
The only way Bundu sees the 12th round is if Thurman's shoulder hasn't healed properly.

Bundu is supposedly an avoided fighter himself. The fight makes sense on that basis.
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Ricky_ wrote: I think boxing has done itself some damage in 2014, the matchmaking has been atrocious, Dana White must be laughing his ass off. Floyd fought a C level brawler... twice. Pacquiao, the other big draw, is fighting a guy hardly anyone has ever even heard of with a style not cut out for prize fighting. Klitchko fought his usual bum of the month. Cotto Martinez looked good on paper and turned out to be a farce. In the UK they are trying to flog Bellew vs Cleverly as a PPV.

Thank god for Carl Froch & George Groves.
Dana White would be laughing his ass off if it hadn't already gotten handed to him this year with their most dismal PPV and TV showings since they broke into the mainstream. They headlined a PPV last month with the equivalent of Choco vs. McWilliams Arroyo and got the buys you'd expect.
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G.McClellan wrote:
ArmaanCFC wrote:IMO Thurman takes this quite easily. If the Bundu Gavin fight was close for Gavin then Thurman should win by a landslide.
It wasn't a close fight. Bundu dropped him with what many thought to be a nothing shot. He had Gavin on the ropes and in trouble in the latter half of the fight. Bundu might be 39, but he's a well condition 39, who looks and boxes like he's 10 years younger than he is.
The only way Bundu sees the 12th round is if Thurman's shoulder hasn't healed properly.

Bundu is supposedly an avoided fighter himself. The fight makes sense on that basis.

It was a close fight, as for being a nothing shot, anyone who says it was a nothing shot probably hasn't been dug in the liver.

And it was a close fight, many pundits had Gavin winning even with the knock down & the fight swings in Gavin's favour on the judges cards if not for that 10-8.
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Ricky_ wrote:
G.McClellan wrote:
ArmaanCFC wrote:IMO Thurman takes this quite easily. If the Bundu Gavin fight was close for Gavin then Thurman should win by a landslide.
It wasn't a close fight. Bundu dropped him with what many thought to be a nothing shot. He had Gavin on the ropes and in trouble in the latter half of the fight. Bundu might be 39, but he's a well condition 39, who looks and boxes like he's 10 years younger than he is.
The only way Bundu sees the 12th round is if Thurman's shoulder hasn't healed properly.

Bundu is supposedly an avoided fighter himself. The fight makes sense on that basis.

It was a close fight, as for being a nothing shot, anyone who says it was a nothing shot probably hasn't been dug in the liver.

And it was a close fight, many pundits had Gavin winning even with the knock down & the fight swings in Gavin's favour on the judges cards if not for that 10-8.
It wasn't a close fight and those pundits are British to a man. Even without the knock down you'd have to give the fight to Bundu.
Gavin's posture was terrible and the way he threw his jab was reminiscent of someone who'd never been taught how to throw it.
The rough house tactics Gavin used throughout the fight, even throwing Bundu to the floor at one point, merited a points deduction.

Gavin's bloody face told it's own story. Don't try to mug us off, we know who won.
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