Lemieux vs Rosado in NY

[ikorolev]

Baby Lemieux grew big enough to travel :)

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11735164?

How do you see the fight going ? I see Rosado gets cut and loses like with Quillin. If he is stupid enough to stand in the middle and trade with Lemieux, he will get KO'ed.

[IRLangmaid25]

Lemieux. He is young powerful and fresh. Rosaldo has taken too many beatings and is prone to cuts so Lemieux stops him midway.

[Jpreisser]

Should be good while it lasts.

[diddy]

Hmm. If Rosado's chin holds up he's got a real shot here. If I were him I'd be on the defensive the first 4-5 rounds. Let Lemiuex expend some energy. Then start throwing back. First part of fight should be about survival only for Rosado. After Rd5 Lemeiux will start to wilt.

[diddy]

Lemieux. He is young powerful and fresh. Rosaldo has taken too many beatings and is prone to cuts so Lemieux stops him midway.

Young, powerful...and exposed by the only 2 good guys on his resume. Alcine and Rubio, who showed what you can do to Lemieux if you're able to stand up to his early assault.

[lefty]

Lemieux. He is young powerful and fresh. Rosaldo has taken too many beatings and is prone to cuts so Lemieux stops him midway.

Young, powerful...and exposed by the only 2 good guys on his resume. Alcine and Rubio, who showed what you can do to Lemieux if you're able to stand up to his early assault.

Losing to a shot Alcine is bad aswell. As i said in another thread, even Brian Rose stopped him lol and Macklin knocked him out in a round.

[crusader]

Lemieux looked well off in the Alcine fight and I don't think Alcine was as shot as he'd later become. I think the loss to Rubio, a fight which he was dominating 5-0 at one point, had him in a bad place mentally and led to an under-performance; in fact, being up 5-0 against Rubio suggests to me that he was very capable of beating Alcine. He was also only 22 when his losses occurred and he didn't have an extensive amateur career (no fights as a senior), so I believe that there is plenty of room for improvement from those bouts. If one wants to see a case of one improving significantly from setbacks, just look at Rosado.

To me it seems like Lemieux is pacing himself a bit better, which is important because I think he faded against Rubio because he was too aggressive during the first 5 rounds. He's obviously got a limited skillset but the power is there with both hands--to the head or body--and he's fairly fast for a KO artist. I think he can do quite well largely based on those qualities, but if he can't get past Rosado it's a very bad sign given that the latter tends to be a high-level gatekeeper rather than a serious contender.

On another note, this card looks fairly good to me. Not the biggest names, but Lemieux-Rosado, Centeno-De La Rosa, and Gomez-Dulorme are fairly evenly matched fights that each seem like they have a good chance of being entertaining; I'd much rather have these types of bouts than A-listers fighting obviously overmatched opponents.

[world ranked]

We cant keep making excuses for these guys they usually are what there record says they are. I ask myself if Rosado had Lemieux fights he probably have a better record than Lemieux has. Rosado could be considered to be Lemieux bast opponent. Can't say the same for Lemieux

[crusader]

We cant keep making excuses for these guys they usually are what there record says they are.

Ya, we shouldn't be open to the possibility of a fighter improving or having an off-night; it's not like those ever happen.

I ask myself if Rosado had Lemieux fights he probably have a better record than Lemieux has.

Really? Looking at some of the fighters Rosado lost to I'm not sure about that:

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hu ... &cat=boxer
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

Obviously he's gotten better, but mentioning that may be considered an excuse.

Rosado could be considered to be Lemieux bast opponent. Can't say the same for Lemieux

And how many people has Rosado beaten who are definitely better than Lemieux? He virtually always loses when he steps up and I thought he lost every round to Charlo, something which even the limited Charlie Ota managed to avoid in my view.

Outcomes aren't determined by resumes anyway.

[diddy]

This fight all comes down to whether Lemiuex has improved his conditioning. It remains to be seen. Rosado is a tough guy to get outta there early so if David can't pace himself properly or get a cut stoppage he could see himself drug into very deep waters where he has shown vulnerability.

The Guerrero that Lemiuex fought was shot to hell and can't take a punch. Rosado can take a shot. Ask Golovkin and Quillin. If Lemiuex goes in there trying to blow him out early he will lose. If he fights at an educated pace he should win but he hasnt shown me he can do that yet.