Best Current British Heavyweight?

TopGun · Post by **TopGun** » 23 Oct 2014, 05:49

Who would come out on top?

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 23 Oct 2014, 05:52

Assuming his shoulder is ok, I'd say Haye is the best current British heavy. He's already ko'd Chisora & would also ko Fury & Price early imo. Far too soon to consider AJ in this.

smoothmoves · Post by **smoothmoves** » 23 Oct 2014, 06:20

Assuming Hayes shoulder is ok, then him by a mile.

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 23 Oct 2014, 06:37

A fit David Haye is miles ahead of the rest. Give it 2 years and AJ will be the top dog in the UK and hopefully the world!

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 23 Oct 2014, 06:40

And it's strange how 2 people so far have gone for Del Boy seen as he's been beaten by 2 on the list already, including an impressive KO.

TopGun · Post by **TopGun** » 23 Oct 2014, 07:26

I've actually gone for Price, not sure why other than I think he hits the hardest out of the lot and if he can tweak a few things still has the potential to redeem himself. One of those fighters I just see a lot of untapped potential

Crazyboy · Post by **Crazyboy** » 23 Oct 2014, 07:29

Yeh I think haye too if he is anything like as good as he was.

Take away the let downs and other bits and bobs he is still the best in the country in my opinion

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 23 Oct 2014, 08:31

That's like saying; "Who is the best football team in the UK at the moment; Chelsea, Accrington Stanley, Bognor Regis Town or Carshalton Athletic?"

It's Haye, by a mile.

TopGun · Post by **TopGun** » 23 Oct 2014, 09:39

ILikeBeer wrote:That's like saying; "Who is the best football team in the UK at the moment; Chelsea, Accrington Stanley, Bognor Regis Town or Carshalton Athletic?"

It's Haye, by a mile.

Is it though, so you believe Haye would beat Price/Joshua/Fury?

I say it would be very close against Joshua and Price. Can't say he would win by a mile....

daviddee · Post by **daviddee** » 23 Oct 2014, 09:47

Apart from Chisora Haye has not beat a good heavyweight.. He's too small. I think it's Fury, Haye, Price , Joshua then Chisora. Looks like Joshua may well become best but not ready to go in with Fury or Haye.. Price Knocked Joshua out in sparring after the Olympics. I'm interested to see how he copes with someone at the next level.. He will always look good knocking over the guys he has. Will find out if he faces Price or even Chambers..

keirw · Post by **keirw** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:02

I voted Fury, although I think Haye would beat him.
Haye can hardly be called current when he hasn't fought in so long.

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:12

daviddee wrote:Apart from Chisora Haye has not beat a good heavyweight.. He's too small. I think it's Fury, Haye, Price , Joshua then Chisora. Looks like Joshua may well become best but not ready to go in with Fury or Haye.. Price Knocked Joshua out in sparring after the Olympics. I'm interested to see how he copes with someone at the next level.. He will always look good knocking over the guys he has. Will find out if he faces Price or even Chambers..

I thought the sparring incident was just a rumour, or has it been confirmed by a reliable source?

Haye didn't just beat Chisora, he destroyed him, something Vitali and Tyson Fury couldn't do. He also rocked the ridiculously huge Valuev and wasn't ever really hurt by Wlad despite performing so badly. He might be small, but I genuinely think he'd take out Fury in 6 rounds.

daviddee · Post by **daviddee** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:44

danamba7 wrote:
daviddee wrote:Apart from Chisora Haye has not beat a good heavyweight.. He's too small. I think it's Fury, Haye, Price , Joshua then Chisora. Looks like Joshua may well become best but not ready to go in with Fury or Haye.. Price Knocked Joshua out in sparring after the Olympics. I'm interested to see how he copes with someone at the next level.. He will always look good knocking over the guys he has. Will find out if he faces Price or even Chambers..
I thought the sparring incident was just a rumour, or has it been confirmed by a reliable source?

Haye didn't just beat Chisora, he destroyed him, something Vitali and Tyson Fury couldn't do. He also rocked the ridiculously huge Valuev and wasn't ever really hurt by Wlad despite performing so badly. He might be small, but I genuinely think he'd take out Fury in 6 rounds.

I had heard it before. I didn't believe it but neither are denying it.. I'm not saying Haye might not take out Fury cause I'm on the fence a bit with it. Fury is better than people think.. Haye struggled against Wlads height and a bore fest v a very slow Valuev who in honesty is probably the worst heavyweight champion of all time.. I think Fury would stay away and win on points. Haye will stay away as he protects that suspect chin by not committing against guys like that.. I think all the fighters apart from Chisora could prob beat each other after all one punch changes a fight..

Boxerbeetle · Post by **Boxerbeetle** » 23 Oct 2014, 10:54

daviddee wrote:
danamba7 wrote:
daviddee wrote:Apart from Chisora Haye has not beat a good heavyweight.. He's too small. I think it's Fury, Haye, Price , Joshua then Chisora. Looks like Joshua may well become best but not ready to go in with Fury or Haye.. Price Knocked Joshua out in sparring after the Olympics. I'm interested to see how he copes with someone at the next level.. He will always look good knocking over the guys he has. Will find out if he faces Price or even Chambers..
I thought the sparring incident was just a rumour, or has it been confirmed by a reliable source?

Haye didn't just beat Chisora, he destroyed him, something Vitali and Tyson Fury couldn't do. He also rocked the ridiculously huge Valuev and wasn't ever really hurt by Wlad despite performing so badly. He might be small, but I genuinely think he'd take out Fury in 6 rounds.
I had heard it before. I didn't believe it but neither are denying it.. I'm not saying Haye might not take out Fury cause I'm on the fence a bit with it. Fury is better than people think.. Haye struggled against Wlads height and a bore fest v a very slow Valuev who in honesty is probably the worst heavyweight champion of all time.. I think Fury would stay away and win on points. Haye will stay away as he protects that suspect chin by not committing against guys like that.. I think all the fighters apart from Chisora could prob beat each other after all one punch changes a fight..

I really can't see Fury keeping his chin protected against Haye for 12 rounds, he's been down enough times to show how vulnerable he is to a big right hand, Haye would only need to connect once for an early night (obviously I know Fury's always got up to win, but against relatively weak opposition).

JimJim2009 · Post by **JimJim2009** » 23 Oct 2014, 11:15

Where's the option to vote for Audley ?

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 23 Oct 2014, 16:41

When Wlad retires, there will be so many titles up for grabs that on one will fight anyone else ever again.

Taansend · Post by **Taansend** » 23 Oct 2014, 22:44

ILikeBeer wrote:That's like saying; "Who is the best football team in the UK at the moment; Chelsea, Accrington Stanley, Bognor Regis Town or Carshalton Athletic?"

It's Haye, by a mile.

I like that analogy........

Except, if the whole Chelsea team were returning from 2 years out with cruciate knee ligament injuries and instead of Accrington Stanley it was Charlton.

Until I see Haye get through a fight I'll have Fury as favourite. Haye has the pedigree but also the biggest question marks.

taffytoon · Post by **taffytoon** » 24 Oct 2014, 02:22

In Heavyweight boxing and especially with AJ TF and DP it is whoever lands first. They can all KO each other in reality.

rossij8 · Post by **rossij8** » 24 Oct 2014, 03:16

taffytoon wrote:In Heavyweight boxing and especially with AJ TF and DP it is whoever lands first. They can all KO each other in reality.

When Price faces Joshua, Price will look like a scared little boy

Sklar · Post by **Sklar** » 24 Oct 2014, 03:42

Haye isn't small. Not exactly a giant but he's the same size as Holyfield and, arguably the greatest ever heavyweight, Larry Holmes.

TheGman · Post by **TheGman** » 24 Oct 2014, 04:26

I put AJ but after putting my vote in think its fury by a mile, cant believe ppl have put haye. Someone said why has two ppl put chisora when he has been beat by two on the list,well why have ppl put haye when haye sh1t his pants twice just before fighting fury.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 24 Oct 2014, 04:36

TopGun wrote:

Is it though, so you believe Haye would beat Price/Joshua/Fury?

I say it would be very close against Joshua and Price. Can't say he would win by a mile....

If we're talking about them fighting at this stage of their career, then yes, I do believe that. The only factor I can see as to why Haye wouldn't beat any of these people is ring rust, as he's been out of the ring for too long. And even then, I say he has too much for Price or Joshua at this stage of their careers.

Joshua has potential, but is in no way ready to beat Haye. Maybe in a few years time, but not right at this moment. People forget that Joshua is still a novice.

Price isn't even a consideration. A boxer who lost to Tony Thompson twice, wouldn't beat Haye. No matter how hard he hits.

Fury has a slight chance, but that's only due to Haye's inactivity. There's absolutely no chance in hell Fury, who has been dropped by people half his size, could withstand Haye's power punches for twelve rounds. If a rusty, out of shape, not fought in ages, Haye got in the ring with Fury, it's possible Fury could use his size to just lean on him for twelve rounds and get a points victory. But I deem that extremely unlikely. Fury hasn't been super active himself, and has been knocked over by punchers far worse than Haye.

ILikeBeer · Post by **ILikeBeer** » 24 Oct 2014, 04:38

Taansend wrote:
ILikeBeer wrote:That's like saying; "Who is the best football team in the UK at the moment; Chelsea, Accrington Stanley, Bognor Regis Town or Carshalton Athletic?"

It's Haye, by a mile.
I like that analogy........

Except, if the whole Chelsea team were returning from 2 years out with cruciate knee ligament injuries and instead of Accrington Stanley it was Charlton.

Until I see Haye get through a fight I'll have Fury as favourite. Haye has the pedigree but also the biggest question marks.

Yeah, that is the only problem. Haye has been out injured for ages. So it's possible he gets beaten by somebody who in reality he shouldn't get beaten by.

danamba7 · Post by **danamba7** » 24 Oct 2014, 06:02

thechump wrote:I put AJ but after putting my vote in think its fury by a mile, cant believe ppl have put haye. Someone said why has two ppl put chisora when he has been beat by two on the list,well why have ppl put haye when haye sh1t his pants twice just before fighting fury.

So Chisora being beat fairly by 2 on the list is the same as Haye pulling out twice with injury?? Strange.

Karl Jade · Post by **Karl Jade** » 24 Oct 2014, 06:47

I'd probably say Chisora beats the rest right now. We don't know how good AJ is or how much Haye has lost, thought.