Is Lara tailor made for Golovkin?

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Is Lara tailor made for Golovkin?

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I think so. Lara running figthing style could be a nightmare against defensive fighters like Floyd or boxer counter-puncher like Canelo, I opine Canelo lost that fight but he couldn't escape for 12 rounds of GGG. Sooner than later Golovkin would hunt him and the fight would be finished. I write that because I am surprised that a lot of people think that Lara style is perfect for Golovkin, well Lara style is kind of similar what Geale tried against Golovkin.

To beat Golovkin you have to made him retreat, he doesn't like walk backwards or stay in front of him and punish him in the inside. I don't see anything beating him with he first style right now and I can see Ward beating him with the second strategy. I would love seeing that fight.

I am learning English, so feel free to correct my grammar.
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I think Lara is better at moving and stinging than Geale. Besides, Geale didn't (or couldn't) follow his plan. In some cases, he was trying to stand up to GGG which was a huge mistake.

Yes, GGG will eventually catch and hurt Lara, but it may take much longer than with Geale.
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Lara is a more skilled boxer than Geale. Geale is more of a volume puncher who comes in and out. Regarding the fight itself though- not sure how well Lara would fair as whilst he does move well, he's not got the best chin I dont think and his punches also would have little effect on Golovkin i think. So yeah, that's my take on it ......
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Golovkin's fans seem to always want smaller fighters to move-up and fight him. So if by "tailor-made," you mean he's a smaller fighter, then yes, he's a smaller fighter.
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Lackeos wrote:Golovkin's fans seem to always want smaller fighters to move-up and fight him. So if by "tailor-made," you mean he's a smaller fighter, then yes, he's a smaller fighter.
this. lara is not even a big LMW, he was physically weaker than canelo for example. that is a size missmatch.
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dominik wrote:
Lackeos wrote:Golovkin's fans seem to always want smaller fighters to move-up and fight him. So if by "tailor-made," you mean he's a smaller fighter, then yes, he's a smaller fighter.
this. lara is not even a big LMW, he was physically weaker than canelo for example. that is a size missmatch.
I think Lara is a real LMW, no small, no big, Canelo is a middleweight or a big LMW. I said Lara, because Lara said that Golovkin ducked him and people opine about that match. I want Golovkin fights Canelo in 160 and Ward in 168 or in a catch-weight for 2015. If Andrade beat Charlo, Golovkin vs Andrade at 160 would be a nice fight also for me.
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fergusg wrote:I’d just like to point out the fact that Erislandy Lara is an Al Haymon fighter, whilst Golovkin’s bouts are televised by HBO. So they’re unlikely to ever share the ring with each other, especially considering the fact that they compete in different weight-classes.

If we discounted the Haymon versus HBO insurmountable political hurdle from our discussion, I believe that Golovkin would defeat Lara in an easier manner than what Canelo did.

Whilst I thought that Canelo defeated Lara by a couple of points at least, due to a combination of Alvarez’s more effective punches and Erislandy’s negative approach from round six onwards… I feel that GGG would be much more dominant.

Golovkin’s superior power would force the Cuban to go into survival mode, which may allow him (if he’s fortunate) to drop a one-sided decision victory to the Kazakhstani.

I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin managed to score a mid-rounds to late stoppage victory though, because all that running is bound to be exhausting! :lol:
You really think he'd go 12 with Golovkin? Did you see the Angulo fight?
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fergusg wrote:
lefty wrote:
fergusg wrote:I’d just like to point out the fact that Erislandy Lara is an Al Haymon fighter, whilst Golovkin’s bouts are televised by HBO. So they’re unlikely to ever share the ring with each other, especially considering the fact that they compete in different weight-classes.

If we discounted the Haymon versus HBO insurmountable political hurdle from our discussion, I believe that Golovkin would defeat Lara in an easier manner than what Canelo did.

Whilst I thought that Canelo defeated Lara by a couple of points at least, due to a combination of Alvarez’s more effective punches and Erislandy’s negative approach from round six onwards… I feel that GGG would be much more dominant.

Golovkin’s superior power would force the Cuban to go into survival mode, which may allow him (if he’s fortunate) to drop a one-sided decision victory to the Kazakhstani.

I wouldn't be surprised if Golovkin managed to score a mid-rounds to late stoppage victory though, because all that running is bound to be exhausting! :lol:
You really think he'd go 12 with Golovkin? Did you see the Angulo fight?
Lara was trying to win the Angulo fight, but when he feels Golovkin’s power, like he did with Canelo, he’s likely to ride his proverbial bike for the remainder of the contest and try to avoid a KO loss. :lol:

It’s much easier to KO an opponent that is trying their very best to win a fight, as opposed to one that is merely trying to survive (à la James "Bonecrusher" Smith versus Mike Tyson). :OhYes:
I hope he spends his entire 3 month camp on a treadmill then building up a kenyan marathon runner level type endurance then haha.
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dominik wrote:
Lackeos wrote:Golovkin's fans seem to always want smaller fighters to move-up and fight him. So if by "tailor-made," you mean he's a smaller fighter, then yes, he's a smaller fighter.
this. lara is not even a big LMW, he was physically weaker than canelo for example. that is a size missmatch.
Alvarez is bigger than Golovkin. And I don't believe size would factor into it too much, considering each guy's style. Lara certainly has the skill, but he can get lazy and can be hurt.

I think he'd get stopped somewhere in the last third of the fight. I don't think he's tailor-made for Golovkin, he may even have some success in spots. But one doesn't have to be a specific kind of fighter to get got sooner or later by GGG.
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The trouble's Lara had with Angulo leads me to believe Golovkin is all wrong for him.
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I've said a number of times now, I would love to see GGG in against an elite level defensive fighter. If you could make a Ward, Mayweather or Rigondeaux type fighter (I appreciate there are differences in their fighting style) in a natural 160lb frame, I'd love to see how GGG copes with that. I think that would probably be the blueprint to beating GGG. The footwork to stay out of his way, the reflexes to make him miss, the intellegence to know when to tie him up and spoil when he starts letting his hands go and the skills and hand speed to catch him in return.
Of course devastating punch power would also be a big bonus, but none of the guys i mentioned with that skill set possesses particularly heavy hands

No one in the middlewieght division even comes close to fitting the bill

A few people have said to beat him you need to be able to back him up, land punches in combinations and have the punch power to deter him. As much as I believe that may work, there is not, in my opinion, a better offensive fighter on the planet just now and I think you would have to be that to achieve this strategy, there is also no one in and around the middlewieght division with the punch power to come anywhere close to Golovkin's to challenge him in that department either.
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fergusg wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:Alvarez is bigger than Golovkin.
What has driven you to make such a statement? :confused: :o :-? :??

Not only is Canelo shorter than Golovkin, but he rehydrates to a lower weight than GGG does come fight night?
Erik Morales is about the same height as David Tua, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Alvarez is bigger than Golovkin. What brings me to that conclusion, is that he is.
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Bobbyptsd wrote:
fergusg wrote:
Bobbyptsd wrote:Alvarez is bigger than Golovkin.
What has driven you to make such a statement? :confused: :o :-? :??

Not only is Canelo shorter than Golovkin, but he rehydrates to a lower weight than GGG does come fight night?
Erik Morales is about the same height as David Tua, but I'm not sure what that has to do with anything.

Alvarez is bigger than Golovkin. What brings me to that conclusion, is that he is.

:lol:
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It would be an interesting challenge as Lara is a southpaw as well and has good footwork and defence, so it is going to a while for Golovkin to slow him down with body shots and cut the ring down as well which would force Lara to stand and fight, which could (and probably would) end the night for him.
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Right now I think Erislandy is my top guy to beat a few elite level cats in theory, but even as a fan of his I think he's too passive/not aggressive enough to take full advantage of his skills in reality & he's probably more likely to lose a decision like vs Saul.
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People talk about GGG being overrated how about Lara........ran like a thief against Canelo.....should have lost to Carlos Molina....life and death struggle with Angulo. GGG runs Lara over
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Put it this way, if El Perro was knocking him down left and right, then what do you think Golovkin will do to him? Gennady cuts off the ring and won't allow Lara to circle out as many times as El Perro did.

I say should Lara and Golovkin hook up that this fight won't go pass 4-5 rounds, GGG by KO.
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