danny Williams should be banned

[JimJim2009]

It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?

It won't be long before a debutant beats him.

The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.

A debutant has already done so 3 fights ago

I would like to pretend I knew that and was testing forum members but I don't think I'd be believed ! How sad, it doesn't get much worse than that.

[Mimmy]

It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?

It won't be long before a debutant beats him.

The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.

A debutant has already done so 3 fights ago

I would like to pretend I knew that and was testing forum members but I don't think I'd be believed ! How sad, it doesn't get much worse than that.

Actually it was 2 fights ago

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer

[gobbles]

How about that for a venue "Open Air Bike Show, Crimea". It's ten years ago next month that he boxed Vitali for the WBC title.

[dougie-boyjr]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

[littlepug]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

He's gone too deep to care

[Rexob]

Are people trying to claim Williams is fine because he isnt sustaining a lenghty beating?

Thats says more about his severe lack of punch resistence,he's almost certain to go over these days

I'd like to see the BBBoC and the Latvians write up their reasons why Danny is and isnt fit to box professionally,the whys and the why nots,just to compare and im like to hear the Latvians give their reasons

Probably same view as freedom of choice despite the dangers

That's right littlemug you got it. Rexnob funny that, you gave me a titter thanks

[littlepug]

Are people trying to claim Williams is fine because he isnt sustaining a lenghty beating?

Thats says more about his severe lack of punch resistence,he's almost certain to go over these days

I'd like to see the BBBoC and the Latvians write up their reasons why Danny is and isnt fit to box professionally,the whys and the why nots,just to compare and im like to hear the Latvians give their reasons

Probably same view as freedom of choice despite the dangers

That's right littlemug you got it. Rexnob funny that, you gave me a titter thanks

Took yer time with that one fella fair play fer taking it as was intended

[Rexob]

That's right littlemug you got it. Rexnob funny that, you gave me a titter thanks [/quote]
Took yer time with that one fella fair play fer taking it as was intended [/quote]

Was listening to my weekly dose of "London Real" check it out good stuff on it youtube.

[johnnygreaves]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

As much as you guys like to look at boxing or even life through rose tinted spectacles. The fact is,now I doubt Danny has everyday work skills or a trade. You have to pay the bills and your way through life.3 options, crime. Dole. Or keep fighting to feed the family. All well and good giving up to please people that don't want to see you carry on. But fact is, the pekoe wanting you to give up to save your rep or life,really ain't going to pop a nice Bunce through your letter box once a week. Such is life !

[littlepug]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

As much as you guys like to look at boxing or even life through rose tinted spectacles. The fact is,now I doubt Danny has everyday work skills or a trade. You have to pay the bills and your way through life.3 options, crime. Dole. Or keep fighting to feed the family. All well and good giving up to please people that don't want to see you carry on. But fact is, the pekoe wanting you to give up to save your rep or life,really ain't going to pop a nice Bunce through your letter box once a week. Such is life !

I know Johnny its rough outside the game for boxers as its an early retirement age and its much easier to just box and get paid, I got out early after just 7 pro fights cos I could see where it was going, never fit enough, too undisciplined and loved to fight (wasn't a puncher) so went back into normal life, you had your own successful career which was reliant on you not getting hurt and you did it very successfully but Danny is in another bracket and am not sure he can make safe choices for himself, don't want to take away his living but as an ex boxer I hate to see fighters suffering

[johnnygreaves]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

As much as you guys like to look at boxing or even life through rose tinted spectacles. The fact is,now I doubt Danny has everyday work skills or a trade. You have to pay the bills and your way through life.3 options, crime. Dole. Or keep fighting to feed the family. All well and good giving up to please people that don't want to see you carry on. But fact is, the pekoe wanting you to give up to save your rep or life,really ain't going to pop a nice Bunce through your letter box once a week. Such is life !

I know Johnny its rough outside the game for boxers as its an early retirement age and its much easier to just box and get paid, I got out early after just 7 pro fights cos I could see where it was going, never fit enough, too undisciplined and loved to fight (wasn't a puncher) so went back into normal life, you had your own successful career which was reliant on you not getting hurt and you did it very successfully but Danny is in another bracket and am not sure he can make safe choices for himself, don't want to take away his living but as an ex boxer I hate to see fighters suffering

very good post,and in a way I make you right.does seem Danny will just get beat upon without showing any survival nous. Which separates him from a journeyman.been out all day for the old mans bday so my thoughts earlier of,he's a fighter.if he wants , let him fight are a bit foolish. As a fighter you will just keep fighting and not worry about anything else until your in your box.difference with me and Danny is,I loved my job.dont think Danny did.i remember boxing on the Mitchell katsidis bill when Danny boxed Derrick and Williams turned up with the Lonsdale belt in a tesco bag and just dropped it on the deck.

[littlepug]

Thing is you were good at your job very good in fact, I got out early after 7 pro fights but I've never told me workmates I boxed, I had a losing record and wouldn't handle the stick, telling em I was ABA quarter finalist wouldn't mean fcuk all to em !

[stujones]

Are people trying to claim Williams is fine because he isnt sustaining a lenghty beating?

Thats says more about his severe lack of punch resistence,he's almost certain to go over these days

I'd like to see the BBBoC and the Latvians write up their reasons why Danny is and isnt fit to box professionally,the whys and the why nots,just to compare and im like to hear the Latvians give their reasons

Have the BBBoC categorically refused Danny a licence? As far as I recall - Danny retired after the Chisora fight and gave his licence back. I know Robert Smith has said it would be "unlikely" for Danny to get his licence back, but I am not sure Danny actually has attempted to go through the steps etc.

If I remember correctly, Danny originally got the Latvian licence cos he changed his mind and wanted to "end" his career with a win and felt this was the quickest way of doing it. That soon escalated to a series of defeats etc.

I'm not for the one moment suggesting that Danny might have got his BBBoC licence back but we do know that the BBBoC don't appreciate British based fighters getting licenced from other EU states. If a fighter goes down that road, always a tough one to get the licence back.

What worries me a bit is what does/did the BBBoC know just after the Chisora fight for Robert Smith to say quite confidently that it is "unlikely" that Danny will get a licence. Technically, Danny was at the time still among the best domestic heavyweights so for them to say unlikely that he'll get licensed after that one fight alone (albeit a dire effort) is a bit dodgy too me.... Matt Skelton doesn't seem to have a problem and he gets smashed equally as badly against very good prospects.

[Muttley]

Yes I know all that, but who has the right to tell someone to stop earning money?

Boxing commissions are there for a reason. To save people like Danny from themselves.

[danamba7]

Simple argument for me, health over money. All good and well wanting to provide for your family but slightly contradictory when there's a large chance most of that money will eventually be spent on care. Ask any respectable human being if they'd rather have a rich Dad or healthy one and you'll get the same answer every time.

[MightyWarrior]

Yes there is no way Danny should be allowed to box - he's clearly shot to hell and his cornermen, promoter or whoever must be cold blooded and God knows how they can face themselves allowing him to go out there for a certain beating every time.
He won't be getting much, facing five fight novices, but even if he was, its not worth it: he's taking Brain rattling shots from heavyweights and will be walking on his heels very soon, another punch drunk fighter stumbling around in the dark.

A dangerous sport like boxing has to be regulated in a sensible and humane manner, things like this can't be allowed to happen. It's shocking the Sharks in the boxing world can get away with this

[jamesmcdonnell]

It is much to boxing's detriment, that someone like Danny, who is clearly shot to pieces, and is getting hurt every time he fights now, and for peanuts no doubt, is able to obtain a license. Unfortunately, the way that boxing is structured, there's no overarching organisation to prevent unscrupulous people granting a license to a fighter who clearly should not have one.

It is not up to anyone on here to prevent Danny fighting on, but it most certainly is the responsibility of boxing commissions.

I'm pretty sure that a thorough medical examination, involving MRI's etc, and various physical examinations used to determine signs of neurological damage, would reveal what our own eyes tell us, that Danny is already badly damaged, and it imminent danger of being punched into a coma or ending his days a stumbling, mumbling wreck - nobody's right to earn a living, should override the wider societies' responsibility to protect them from injury and death. I wonder when the last time he was given a proper medical examination was?

Danny could probably make the same money he is earning now doing labouring work, how much can be getting per fight, a couple of thousand perhaps, and he's fighting, what, every few months. He can't be earning much more than 20k a year by the time he's paid his management etc - that's an absolute pittance in this day and age.

[dougie-boyjr]

It is so embarrassing has danny no self respect left guys who he would have beating easily r now stopping him with jabs etc

As much as you guys like to look at boxing or even life through rose tinted spectacles. The fact is,now I doubt Danny has everyday work skills or a trade. You have to pay the bills and your way through life.3 options, crime. Dole. Or keep fighting to feed the family. All well and good giving up to please people that don't want to see you carry on. But fact is, the pekoe wanting you to give up to save your rep or life,really ain't going to pop a nice Bunce through your letter box once a week. Such is life !

Hel be on disability living alounces (DLA) after he stops boxing 1200quid a month, its now called personal independence payment how sad

[banjo]

He'd be a prime target for pissed up revellers and would sustain much more of a beating than in the ring.

And he'd deal with them with ease, a few pissed up lads aren't going to do more damage than professional heavyweights. I'm starting to think you're either a troll, or just really, really stupid.

Sadly you get pudenda like those who murdered James Oyebola over him asking them to put a ciggy out.

[magwitch]

If Danny, or anyone else for that matter, was about to commit suicide, would you just walk past and say 'it's his life to do with as he pleases'?

Danny Williams, without knowing it, is slowly committing suicide by carrying on fighting, he probably won't die in the ring, but he will take years, possibly decades off his life and certainly won't be able to live in good health, all for a few quid. But that's ok with you, as you have no compassion towards another human being.

Well said

What gives you the right to tell anyone what to do?

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[UrbanFox]

This topic was created a few months ago when he lost to that Russian kid but we all agreed that Danny Williams should retire.
I cannot believe we're still arguing about this.

Williams has had offers to work as a bouncer/in the personal security business. Go and check for yourself on ifl tv, he mentions it. Why he is putting his health at risk is beyond belief really.

[stujones]

It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?

It won't be long before a debutant beats him.

The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.

Key difference between Page and Williams is that Page was going rounds against people better than him and winning a fair share of fights at lower level, giving him some incentive to try against a slightly better class of opponent.

Danny gets wobbled and goes down to a jab these days in the opening round. Is it punch resistance or is it him finding easy way out.... I used to be certain it was the former, now the quality of punches that are hurting him I am not so sure.

Danny Williams won't lose via 9th round TKO these days.

[MightyWarrior]

It is much to boxing's detriment, that someone like Danny, who is clearly shot to pieces, and is getting hurt every time he fights now, and for peanuts no doubt, is able to obtain a license. Unfortunately, the way that boxing is structured, there's no overarching organisation to prevent unscrupulous people granting a license to a fighter who clearly should not have one.

It is not up to anyone on here to prevent Danny fighting on, but it most certainly is the responsibility of boxing commissions.

I'm pretty sure that a thorough medical examination, involving MRI's etc, and various physical examinations used to determine signs of neurological damage, would reveal what our own eyes tell us, that Danny is already badly damaged, and it imminent danger of being punched into a coma or ending his days a stumbling, mumbling wreck - nobody's right to earn a living, should override the wider societies' responsibility to protect them from injury and death. I wonder when the last time he was given a proper medical examination was?

Danny could probably make the same money he is earning now doing labouring work, how much can be getting per fight, a couple of thousand perhaps, and he's fighting, what, every few months. He can't be earning much more than 20k a year by the time he's paid his management etc - that's an absolute pittance in this day and age.

Bang on James

[MightyWarrior]

It would be interesting to know the net amount of cash that ends up in Danny's back pocket after these sort of fights, after travel expenses etc. five hundred quid ? A grand ?

It won't be long before a debutant beats him.

The horrible, tragic demise of Greg page comes to mind.

Key difference between Page and Williams is that Page was going rounds against people better than him and winning a fair share of fights at lower level, giving him some incentive to try against a slightly better class of opponent.

Danny gets wobbled and goes down to a jab these days in the opening round. Is it punch resistance or is it him finding easy way out.... I used to be certain it was the former, now the quality of punches that are hurting him I am not so sure.

Danny Williams won't lose via 9th round TKO these days.

I don't know if you're right Stu, it would be hard to imagine..this is a fighter who just won't quit, in all senses of the word, at his peak probably one of the bravest British fighters we've seen in a long long time - what a shell hacking he took from Vitali, and just wouldn't quit - then the incredible turn around against Potter with a dislocated shoulder.

He must have been knocked down countless times now...

[stujones]

True, MW and I am disappointed in myself for even thinking the suggestion. However, I don't think I've ever seen a fighter with this bad a chin/balance issues. Never been right after Klitchsko (maybe even after Tyson) but now he just gets hurt, goes down so easily.

I'm not saying he is in the same league in toughness, but Julius Francis was once considered a very tough fighter who would give it his all. I can remember when he was at the end of his career people were saying he'll know how to defend himself and if the fighter can penetrate through, he'll go down.

For different reasons, I kind of have the same views on Danny. I cannot see him taking such a beating that he'll suffer a brain bleed etc. Yes, good chance the damage has already been done and he'll have serious and visible neurological issues in a few years but I don't think he'll ever do a "Greg Page". He goes down way too easily, whether its a "dive" or not.