Betting thread
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Mulling over a worryingly large bet on Kovalev by stoppage. I thought you could get 6/4 but 5/6 is the best now.
I'm a pussy though so I probably won't do it. Would have done at 6/4
I'm a pussy though so I probably won't do it. Would have done at 6/4
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I've put £40 on Ajisafe, Steiglitz, spike o'sullivan & Bellew. Just over 10/1.
Anyone know much about Maciej Sulecki? Unbeaten polish kid fighting Proska he's 11/4.
Anyone know much about Maciej Sulecki? Unbeaten polish kid fighting Proska he's 11/4.
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I'd want atleast 6/1 on a kovalev stoppage. Them odds are much to short to bet large against Hopkins. It certainly isn't in your favour.Riddick Blowe wrote:Mulling over a worryingly large bet on Kovalev by stoppage. I thought you could get 6/4 but 5/6 is the best now.
I'm a pussy though so I probably won't do it. Would have done at 6/4
Don't do it, it's really bad value.
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freddydoesdallas
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I agree that it's not good value. There is a chance Hopkins could be stopped but it's not an odds-on chance.boybrooks wrote:I'd want atleast 6/1 on a kovalev stoppage. Them odds are much to short to bet large against Hopkins. It certainly isn't in your favour.Riddick Blowe wrote:Mulling over a worryingly large bet on Kovalev by stoppage. I thought you could get 6/4 but 5/6 is the best now.
I'm a pussy though so I probably won't do it. Would have done at 6/4
Don't do it, it's really bad value.
I'd want at least 2s though to whet my whistle
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reggaereggae
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Good point regarding value. But I think you are exagerating with regard to acceptable odds. I would jump on 6-1 Kov stoppage. Big bet. I can see Hop getting stopped to the body or getting DQd. (Still counts as inside distance)boybrooks wrote:I'd want atleast 6/1 on a kovalev stoppage. Them odds are much to short to bet large against Hopkins. It certainly isn't in your favour.Riddick Blowe wrote:Mulling over a worryingly large bet on Kovalev by stoppage. I thought you could get 6/4 but 5/6 is the best now.
I'm a pussy though so I probably won't do it. Would have done at 6/4
Don't do it, it's really bad value.
I think 2-1 or 3-1 would be fair.
Also - if you feel the Kov stoppage is a terrible price, then mathematically, there must exist an opposite value price. Eg Kov Points, or Hop points.
I think it's sucha complex fight with many factors, I'm not comfortable picking here. I think Hop will quit/DQ/body shot in about round 10. But not going to place much money on that
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boybrooks wrote:
I'd want atleast 6/1 on a kovalev stoppage.
I don't think you understand how the sports betting industry works.
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I think 3/1 would have been extremely optimistic. I expected this market to open at around 7/4 and then shorten gradually to about 6/5, then maybe go out again when the 'I've learned my lesson!' crowd got on Hopkins nearer the fight, but it's already odds on. Not sure what it actually opened on, can't believe I missed it.reggaereggae wrote:
I think 2-1 or 3-1 would be fair.
Anyway I'll be holding out for it to get back to odds against at least.
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reggaereggae
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Yes you're right. 3/1 would be extremely good value and 2/1 would still be worth a decent bet.Riddick Blowe wrote:I think 3/1 would have been extremely optimistic. I expected this market to open at around 7/4 and then shorten gradually to about 6/5, then maybe go out again when the 'I've learned my lesson!' crowd got on Hopkins nearer the fight, but it's already odds on. Not sure what it actually opened on, can't believe I missed it.reggaereggae wrote:
I think 2-1 or 3-1 would be fair.
Anyway I'll be holding out for it to get back to odds against at least.
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If I could get 2/1 by fight night I would be going balls deep on this no question.
Kovalev is going to krush Hopkins in around seven painful rounds. It'll only be Bernard's 'smarts' that keep him in there that long. Folk are going to be shocked how easily the Russian gets the job done. The only concern is cuts, but Sergey has already voiced this as a concern. I get the feeling JDJ has thought of everything here and he knows Bernard inside out of course anyway.
Kovalev is going to krush Hopkins in around seven painful rounds. It'll only be Bernard's 'smarts' that keep him in there that long. Folk are going to be shocked how easily the Russian gets the job done. The only concern is cuts, but Sergey has already voiced this as a concern. I get the feeling JDJ has thought of everything here and he knows Bernard inside out of course anyway.
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littlekinny
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Im very tempted to take Bisping at 7/2 against Rockhold.
Im not saying Im convinved Bisping will win or anything but I think it represents value.
I know hes lost 3 of his last 6 but I feel there are'excuses'.....Sonnen was very close and couldve gone either way. He was simply too terrible against Kennedy that I think the lay off and Kennedys wrestling attack just drained him of any enthusiasm and he simply couldnt deal with it. Against Belfort, knocked out plain and simple. Bisping seems to struggle with elite power especially to the beard but Im not sure Rockhold has this. In what I see could evolve into a kickboxing match I think Bisping is better than a 7/2 shot.....or am I just being biased towards the Brit?
Im not saying Im convinved Bisping will win or anything but I think it represents value.
I know hes lost 3 of his last 6 but I feel there are'excuses'.....Sonnen was very close and couldve gone either way. He was simply too terrible against Kennedy that I think the lay off and Kennedys wrestling attack just drained him of any enthusiasm and he simply couldnt deal with it. Against Belfort, knocked out plain and simple. Bisping seems to struggle with elite power especially to the beard but Im not sure Rockhold has this. In what I see could evolve into a kickboxing match I think Bisping is better than a 7/2 shot.....or am I just being biased towards the Brit?
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I've done a decent bet on over 10.5 rounds in the Hopkins v Kovalev fight at evens with Sky Bet. I think this is a very fair price. I don't see Kovalev winning by stoppage. Hopkins has never come close to being stopped before and although Kovalev punches extremely hard I don't think he'll land clean very often. Equally, Hopkins hasn't stopped anyone in 10 years.
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I think Rockhold will knock him out and probably in the first round.littlekinny wrote:Im very tempted to take Bisping at 7/2 against Rockhold.
Im not saying Im convinved Bisping will win or anything but I think it represents value.
I know hes lost 3 of his last 6 but I feel there are'excuses'.....Sonnen was very close and couldve gone either way. He was simply too terrible against Kennedy that I think the lay off and Kennedys wrestling attack just drained him of any enthusiasm and he simply couldnt deal with it. Against Belfort, knocked out plain and simple. Bisping seems to struggle with elite power especially to the beard but Im not sure Rockhold has this. In what I see could evolve into a kickboxing match I think Bisping is better than a 7/2 shot.....or am I just being biased towards the Brit?
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I don't think old man Hop is going to fancy it much once Kov starts landing those heavy hits anywhere he can ( and he better be careful, as when Hopkins realises he's in for a hiding, don't be surprised if he starts angling for a DQ win, like a low shot of something ) Good chance Krusher gets the stoppage here, in 8 or 9 - he look's very heavy handed, in a scaled down George Foreman manner.
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It is one of the most intriguing betting fights for a while as apart from a Hopkins win by stoppage and a late Kovalev stoppage I can see any other outcome. The most likely 3 scenarios for me are:
1. Kovalev is just way too powerful and bombs Hopkins out early. Hopkins is a notoriously slow starter and if he is ever going to be stopped it would be early in my view before he has had chance to get into a rhythm. The most obvious example of him being a slow starter in the first Pascal fight but there are plenty of other less obvious examples as well.
2. Hopkins figures Kovalev out after a couple of rounds and makes him look foolish and cruises to a wide points win. I think this is actually the most likely scenario.
3. Kovalev gives up on trying to get the knock out after 5 or 6 rounds and instead concentrates on trying to outwork Hopkins and then either wins or loses a narrow points decision.
1. Kovalev is just way too powerful and bombs Hopkins out early. Hopkins is a notoriously slow starter and if he is ever going to be stopped it would be early in my view before he has had chance to get into a rhythm. The most obvious example of him being a slow starter in the first Pascal fight but there are plenty of other less obvious examples as well.
2. Hopkins figures Kovalev out after a couple of rounds and makes him look foolish and cruises to a wide points win. I think this is actually the most likely scenario.
3. Kovalev gives up on trying to get the knock out after 5 or 6 rounds and instead concentrates on trying to outwork Hopkins and then either wins or loses a narrow points decision.
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Hopkins on points for me, Kolarov is wild and still unproven at true world level.
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He's not wild in the slightest, he's extremely composed.Hagler2002 wrote:Hopkins on points for me, Kolarov is wild and still unproven at true world level.
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I think wild is abit unfair. He has massively heavy hands which may be why some people think he's wild. However he does come fwd excessively, which to date hasn't been a concern.
I think Kovalev in 6 or hopkins split decision.
Kov in 6 would be my first bet.
I think Kovalev in 6 or hopkins split decision.
Kov in 6 would be my first bet.
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What are the odds on a Kovalev DQ win?!
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Haha I'm sure I asked this as soon as the fight was made.milpool wrote:What are the odds on a Kovalev DQ win?!
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I think Kovalev hits insanely hard and Bernard will not be able to take many of those and see the final bell, equally he is not the most fleet footed and hardly works his way in
expertly. I expect Kovalev to win but there is another angle that interests me a little and that is that Kovalev does not in my opinion have a light-heavyweight solid chin and I could
quite easily see him walking onto something counter-wise from Bernard that scrambles him, now with many thinking the old fella may get any support going from the officials, an incredible
stoppage (perhaps a bit early) from Hopkins will carry a small wager from myself, just in case I am sitting here Sunday morning calling myself a knob.
expertly. I expect Kovalev to win but there is another angle that interests me a little and that is that Kovalev does not in my opinion have a light-heavyweight solid chin and I could
quite easily see him walking onto something counter-wise from Bernard that scrambles him, now with many thinking the old fella may get any support going from the officials, an incredible
stoppage (perhaps a bit early) from Hopkins will carry a small wager from myself, just in case I am sitting here Sunday morning calling myself a knob.
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I'm not sure Kovalev KO is going to shift much from 4/5. Where are all the sages who follow the 'a better boxer will always beat a better puncher' nonsense??? We need your money going on Hopkins!
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Hahhaha nice one! Kov is way more than a puncher and Hop is much more a spoiler than boxer.Riddick Blowe wrote:I'm not sure Kovalev KO is going to shift much from 4/5. Where are all the sages who follow the 'a better boxer will always beat a better puncher' nonsense??? We need your money going on Hopkins!
Boxing News has gone for Hopkins, though without any conviction.
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Gone for Kovalev decision, he won't be wild once he eventually gets to Hopking look he is with lower class guys. He will stay composed and win wide. 7/2
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I think Kovalev to be knocked down anytime at 6/1 is a good price. If he comes out winding that right hand Hopkins could catch him with something that puts him down. It's been done before with lesser fighters putting down the Krusher (and the Alien has done it to better fighters aswell!)
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Big Write-up on the Mundine fight guys
Worth a read
http://www.sporttipster.co.uk/red-hot-tip/
I fancy Hopkins on points. This fella reckons Kov
Worth a read
http://www.sporttipster.co.uk/red-hot-tip/
I fancy Hopkins on points. This fella reckons Kov