Wage comparisons

Black Sam Bellamy
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Re: Wage comparisons

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I think there's a bit of a myth in circulation at the moment - sign with Matchroom and you'll get more fights.
Parson Cross
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Re: Wage comparisons

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He's under pressure mate that's for sure. Too many fighters not enough shows.
lefty
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Parson Cross wrote:He's under pressure mate that's for sure. Too many fighters not enough shows.
Shouldnt of he realised that when he signed all these fighters though.
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The fighters signed with their eyes wide open mate.
Their problem.
Parson Cross
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That's where Fight Pass will help out for those striving to get there rather than those already there.
Good move by Dave Coldwell.
lefty
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Parson Cross wrote:The fighters signed with their eyes wide open mate.
Their problem.
Maybe some of them arent the sharpest tools in the box though lol. I guess it's the job of the manager's to deal with all that anyway.
Jack B
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Re: Wage comparisons

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Parson Cross wrote:Freddy,
Regular income is rarely used hence I raised a query in describing this thread as "wages comparison"
The elite got signing on fees, and then contracts with minimum purse figures often at different numbers when it got to titles ie British Commonwealth European World.
Usually contracts would specify a minimum number of fights per season - with the Promoter protected against matters out of his control - such as injury.
I will say this about Wazza though. He never hesitated to help any of his lads if they were in the doldrums and had issues (genuine) outside boxing.
Mitchell is a good example so when he jumped ship I thought that was gutless.
A quick question from an interested observer!

If a contract is signed with a minimum purse agreement of 30k, for example, would there ever be a scenario where the fighter's purse would be more than the minimum? And, if so, when would that occur and how could the boxer/manager negotiate up with the promoter when a contract has already been agreed? Basically, once a promoter signs a deal with a fighter that covers purse amounts, why would he ever raise the purses above the minimum?

Surely it would be in the fighters' interests to negotiate a proportion of the purse of the fight/income of the event so there is more flexibility if his demand grows?
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Post by Parson Cross »

The answer from my prospective is easy mate. The minimum figure is always set at an amount where you know it's the right price.
That's where a Manager earns his corn.
If the average purse for let's say a LM for a British title fight is £20k - set it at £25k.
Everything is negotiable.
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Jack B
I would also add even the so called hottest prospects fall by the wayside from time to time.
You say if his demand grows - I ask what if it falls ?
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Post by Jack B »

Thanks mate good insight!
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Post by freddydoesdallas »

Parson Cross wrote:Freddy,
Regular income is rarely used hence I raised a query in describing this thread as "wages comparison"
The elite got signing on fees, and then contracts with minimum purse figures often at different numbers when it got to titles ie British Commonwealth European World.
Usually contracts would specify a minimum number of fights per season - with the Promoter protected against matters out of his control - such as injury.
I will say this about Wazza though. He never hesitated to help any of his lads if they were in the doldrums and had issues (genuine) outside boxing.
Mitchell is a good example so when he jumped ship I thought that was gutless.
Cheers for the information
magwitch
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Post by magwitch »

righthook wrote:
Parson Cross wrote:Righthook,
Please don't use the word wages. Fighters do not get wages. Wages means regular income paid weekly / monthly.
Didn't realise wages would wind u up so much :lol: il say purse if that makes u feel better :roll:
:lol: :lol:

sorry, I enjoyed that :D
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Post by MarkMcBurney »

Parson Cross wrote:That's where Fight Pass will help out for those striving to get there rather than those already there.
Good move by Dave Coldwell.
Yes and no, personally I'm not a Fight Pass subscriber but I did used to watch Dave's shows online, I imagine there are a few similar. Ultimately it's better financially for him though I guess.
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Re: Wage comparisons

Post by Parson Cross »

Not just about finances
Chances for his own lads to get a chance on Matchroom shows as well if they impress.
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