Boxers of the Past (Find a Grave)

[HomicideHenry]

http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cg ... &GRid=7447


I know it is a rather morbid topic maybe to some, but figured, since this is all about history and really educating the would be fans of our sport that we love so much, we should do our best to locate the grave sites of famous contenders and champions--- so that it is preserved for all times--- and if anyone ever goes on a trip or vacation, can pay their respect to some of the all-time greats (and not so greats) of the sport.

Jesus bless.

[Seamus]

I've been to Packey McFarland, Bob Fitzsimmons and Jack Johnson's.

[Giancarlo]

Here's an interesting one.

Peter Jackson - The Black Prince

[HomicideHenry]

Locations of graves, would be nice gentlemen.

[Giancarlo]

Locations of graves, would be nice gentlemen.

Peter Jackson's is just down the road from me. Toowong Cemetary, Brisbane.

[Sklar]

I'm 99% sure the image in the opening post is a Photoshop mock-up and not Jerry's grave at all. Disrespectful if so. Unless you're sure, I wouldn't post.

[abdelfadeeli]

https://www.google.com/search?q=sonny+l ... 288%3B1712
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q ... 8887888280

[BoxBuzz]

[BoxBuzz]

Sorry about the size.....

This grave is probably the one that has the most sentimental boxing wistfulness about it. Once thought to be lost, (or at least private) it was of course found, and then made legendary by the poet via the following words.



The Nonpareil’s Grave
(1)
Far out in the wilds of Oregon, On a lonely mountain side, Where Columbia’s mighty waters, Roll down to the ocean side;
Where the giant fir and cedar
Are imaged in the wave,
0′ ergrown with firs and lichens, I found Jack Dempsey’s grave.
(2)
I found no marble monolith,
No broken shaft, or stone,
Recording sixty victories,
This vanquished victor won;
No rose, no shamrock could I find, No mortal here to tell
Where sleeps in this forsaken spot Immortal Nonpareil.
(3)
A winding wooden canyon road That mortals seldom tread, Leads up this lonely mountain, To the desert of the dead.
And the Western sun was sinking In Pacific’s golden wave

[Broomhall]

I visited Joe Louis's grave in Arlington cemetery which I found a strangely moving experience.

[Prediction...Pain]

RIP

[BoxBuzz]

I visited Joe Louis's grave in Arlington cemetery which I found a strangely moving experience.

It is interesting that after all the money Joe made, and all the people he made money for, he ended up being buried under his service benefits.


Now if that was his choice, because he honored his country so much then fine. But if it was his only option, that just sucks.

[BoxBuzz]

RIP

Not hardly a grave PP. If so, he's become quite the successful zombie since that moment.

[Broomhall]

I visited Joe Louis's grave in Arlington cemetery which I found a strangely moving experience.

It is interesting that after all the money Joe made, and all the people he made money for, he ended up being buried under his service benefits.


Now if that was his choice, because he honored his country so much then fine. But if it was his only option, that just sucks.

Not really. It is a wonderful site and a beautiful cemetery. He is also in great company. If dead people know anything about where they are buried then I would imagine Joe would be pretty happy to be where he is. I couldnt imagine anyone could choose a better resting place.

[Prediction...Pain]

RIP

Not hardly a grave PP. If so, he's become quite the successful zombie since that moment.

That's just it! He is a zombie, I'm serious. Reptilian shape shifter, perhaps. I'll have to consult BarryW

[BoxBuzz]

I visited Joe Louis's grave in Arlington cemetery which I found a strangely moving experience.

It is interesting that after all the money Joe made, and all the people he made money for, he ended up being buried under his service benefits.


Now if that was his choice, because he honored his country so much then fine. But if it was his only option, that just sucks.

Not really. It is a wonderful site and a beautiful cemetery. He is also in great company. If dead people know anything about where they are buried then I would imagine Joe would be pretty happy to be where he is. I couldnt imagine anyone could choose a better resting place.

Well like I said, if it was by his choice, and it could well be, then I absolutely agree with you it is both honorable and impressive. I'll hope that's the scenario.

My point was that I had heard he was perhaps broke, and this was his only option. Even then you are correct, it is a wonderful place to be laid to rest. And he inspired so many people that I know he is visited and revered often at this very honorable site. So it is our gain that he either was forced or chose to be enshrined there.

[SteveO]

I read somewhere that his old foe, Max Schmeling, paid for the funeral.

[HomicideHenry]

I'm 99% sure the image in the opening post is a Photoshop mock-up and not Jerry's grave at all. Disrespectful if so. Unless you're sure, I wouldn't post.

Nope its the genuine article.

[SenorPipino]

Yeah, Quarry's tombstone is the real deal. Not a computer-generated facimile.
In bad taste? Many don't care to admit it, but in the 60s and 70s much of Quarry's popularity was due to his skin color. Same with Cooney a decade later.
So Great White Hope is an accurate moniker and tribute.

Graves I've visited include Jack Johnson, Sonny Liston, Jim Jeffries, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Maxie Rosenbloom

[hofguy]

Australian boxing historian, Arnold Thomas, has traveled to the USA & Britain, as well as around Australia, finding & photographing boxers' graves & memorials. He wrote a book "Where Warriors Rest" on the subject. It contains about 100 stories & photographs of boxers & boxing identities, as well as showing their graves. Those included range from some of the old British bare knuckle champions, to Joe Louis & Sugar Ray Robinson, to Tex Rickard, to Les Darcy & Dave Sands in Australia.

[cocka09]

Sorry about the size.....

This grave is probably the one that has the most sentimental boxing wistfulness about it. Once thought to be lost, (or at least private) it was of course found, and then made legendary by the poet via the following words.



The Nonpareil’s Grave
(1)
Far out in the wilds of Oregon, On a lonely mountain side, Where Columbia’s mighty waters, Roll down to the ocean side;
Where the giant fir and cedar
Are imaged in the wave,
0′ ergrown with firs and lichens, I found Jack Dempsey’s grave.
(2)
I found no marble monolith,
No broken shaft, or stone,
Recording sixty victories,
This vanquished victor won;
No rose, no shamrock could I find, No mortal here to tell
Where sleeps in this forsaken spot Immortal Nonpareil.
(3)
A winding wooden canyon road That mortals seldom tread, Leads up this lonely mountain, To the desert of the dead.
And the Western sun was sinking In Pacific’s golden wave

and thus New York shall forget, it's bravest if the brave
And in the fields of Oregon, unmarked leave Dempseys grave.

It's on my bucket list to visit Nonpareil's grave. Along with Stanley Ketchel.

[HomicideHenry]

Yeah, Quarry's tombstone is the real deal. Not a computer-generated facimile.
In bad taste? Many don't care to admit it, but in the 60s and 70s much of Quarry's popularity was due to his skin color. Same with Cooney a decade later.
So Great White Hope is an accurate moniker and tribute.

Graves I've visited include Jack Johnson, Sonny Liston, Jim Jeffries, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Maxie Rosenbloom

People forget, also, that for a time Quarry shared the "prize" of being the most popular athlete in the world with Muhammad Ali. This was, of course, before they fought in Georgia. But even after the loss, Quarry was still highly popular. Of all the "white hopes" that have come down the pipe, I would argue that Quarry was not only the "greatest" of them all, but was so great in fact its blasphemy to group him in as just a "white hope". Had the man existed in a later or earlier era, he could of been heavyweight champion--- or maybe even the Cruiserweight champion.

[Broomhall]

Yeah, Quarry's tombstone is the real deal. Not a computer-generated facimile.
In bad taste? Many don't care to admit it, but in the 60s and 70s much of Quarry's popularity was due to his skin color. Same with Cooney a decade later.
So Great White Hope is an accurate moniker and tribute.

Graves I've visited include Jack Johnson, Sonny Liston, Jim Jeffries, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Maxie Rosenbloom

People forget, also, that for a time Quarry shared the "prize" of being the most popular athlete in the world with Muhammad Ali. This was, of course, before they fought in Georgia. But even after the loss, Quarry was still highly popular. Of all the "white hopes" that have come down the pipe, I would argue that Quarry was not only the "greatest" of them all, but was so great in fact its blasphemy to group him in as just a "white hope". Had the man existed in a later or earlier era, he could of been heavyweight champion--- or maybe even the Cruiserweight champion.

Maybe in the states Henry but Quarry as far as I am aware was not universally renowned as the most popular athlete. I grew up in the 60s in Africa and 70s in the UK and cannot recall anyone talking about him. Frazier, Foreman, Liston-but I cannot recall us talking about Quarry-maybe some other Brit will correct me?

[HomicideHenry]

Maybe in the states Henry but Quarry as far as I am aware was not universally renowned as the most popular athlete. I grew up in the 60s in Africa and 70s in the UK and cannot recall anyone talking about him. Frazier, Foreman, Liston-but I cannot recall us talking about Quarry-maybe some other Brit will correct me?

You are probably right. I do know the two men shared the cover of SI as the most popular athletes in the early 70's. I think, far as England goes, when Quarry lost unexpectedly to Chuvalo he was written off--- and was considered a huge underdog going into his fight with British & Commonwealth champion Jack Boddell. But when Quarry annihilated him in one round, I think that may of made alot of British fans resent Quarry a bit. After all, England has always been starved for having a heavyweight world champion of their own--- rather than having the reputation as being "gallant losers", pardon the pun.

[Caractacus]

I'm 99% sure the image in the opening post is a Photoshop mock-up and not Jerry's grave at all. Disrespectful if so. Unless you're sure, I wouldn't post.

Nope its the genuine article.

IMOP I think that epithath of"The Great White Hope'
sort of trivilizes Jerry Quarry's life and boxing career.
Everyone knows that it was Jess Willard
who was the real Great White Hope'.