was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

p4p1
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5852
Joined: 23 Apr 2007, 07:43

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by p4p1 »

you're mistaking guys who got coverage compared to the amount of good fighters we have/had. Green and Mundine always got more coverage than any other Aussie fighter in the last 15 years or so and it wasnt because of how good they were.
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

p4p1 wrote:you're mistaking guys who got coverage compared to the amount of good fighters we have/had. Green and Mundine always got more coverage than any other Aussie fighter in the last 15 years or so and it wasnt because of how good they were.
Go on enlighten me. Who did you have that were better fighters than Green and Mundine in the last 15 years. Forgetting the obvious recent dethroned champs.
Beltane
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 4053
Joined: 02 Aug 2007, 02:12

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by Beltane »

Kostya Tszyu (last fought in 2005) and Vic Darchinyan were legit world title holders in the past 15 years and both surpassed Green and Mundine in ability wise during the last 15 years. Both did their best work overseas.

Both the Green and Mundine camps were able to skillfully promote themselves at a high level to the Australian public via various forms of the the media, hence their higher profile locally.
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

Beltane wrote:Kostya Tszyu (last fought in 2005) and Vic Darchinyan were legit world title holders in the past 15 years and both surpassed Green and Mundine in ability wise during the last 15 years. Both did their best work overseas.

Both the Green and Mundine camps were able to skillfully promote themselves at a high level to the Australian public via various forms of the the media, hence their higher profile locally.
Come off it. Like me both might reside here, but they're hardly Australians! Lol
dberry
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 3350
Joined: 05 Jan 2010, 02:15

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by dberry »

polecateddy wrote:
Beltane wrote:Kostya Tszyu (last fought in 2005) and Vic Darchinyan were legit world title holders in the past 15 years and both surpassed Green and Mundine in ability wise during the last 15 years. Both did their best work overseas.

Both the Green and Mundine camps were able to skillfully promote themselves at a high level to the Australian public via various forms of the the media, hence their higher profile locally.
Come off it. Like me both might reside here, but they're hardly Australians! Lol
Both may well have not been born here however both trained here, lived here, became permanent residents/citizens here and trained and fought out of here for their full professional careers!
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

Tsyzu wasn't. He was definitely based in the U.S. as he built towards his peak, beating Lopez and the like.
buster007
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1899
Joined: 11 Oct 2007, 00:58

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by buster007 »

kostya was certainly aussie.
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

buster007 wrote:kostya was certainly aussie.
And definitely not even slightly Russian. Australia is an attractive immigration country. I should know, as I did it as well. Adults though don't pick up an Aussie accent, and citizenship after 4 years doesn't magically change who you are and where you were brought up.
buster007
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1899
Joined: 11 Oct 2007, 00:58

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by buster007 »

drop the bitterness.
bogan whisperer
Middleweight
Posts: 1668
Joined: 15 Aug 2013, 19:24

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by bogan whisperer »

polecateddy wrote:Tsyzu wasn't. He was definitely based in the U.S. as he built towards his peak, beating Lopez and the like.
Sad you think it is such an issue :doh:
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

buster007 wrote:drop the bitterness.
Just stating an obvious fact.
Weirdyman
Middleweight
Posts: 145
Joined: 02 Jul 2013, 04:06

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by Weirdyman »

Beltane wrote:The bout only lasted 21 seconds, one of the quickest of recent times.

I can remember Tony Mundine only lasting 50 odd seconds when taking on a certain Luis Rodríguez, and he bounced back. So hopefully Damian will get back in the saddle.

In a recent interview in Aus-Boxing, Damian mentioned:
As for Powdrill, 30, Hooper believes the talented kickboxer isn’t giving him the credit he deserves.

“I think he (Powdrill) is taking me too lightly. Yes, he is very experienced kickboxer but this is boxing. And it’s a different what he’s used to. I can’t wait to fight him as he’s keen and willing to fight so it should be a good fight,”
The full Aus-Boxing article is well worth a read in the context of his recent loss and future plans:
http://www.aus-boxing.com/2014/11/08/da ... and-fight/
Interesting article in the context. I reckon they'll continue as if it never happened. Must admit I always thought Damien would be better off training overseas for a bit and take some fights abroad.

The loss isn't a terrible one for Damien, hopefully he's taken something from it.
ClivePatrickLyons
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2811
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 22:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

Grant wrote:Looked very similar KO to Anthony Mundine's KO in Germany against Ottke
Grant in what way did these two completely different KO'S look similar Ottkes punch was to Mundines temple area [IT DID'NT TRAVEL FAR] he then landed on his BACK then was counted out much later in the fight it was in round 10 when Mundine was out of gas, Mundine was still a novice with only 9/10 pro fight's under his belt and only 2 amateur fight's As for Hoopers KO loss 30/40 second's into round 1 this was a HAIL MARY TYPE OF PUNCH[RIGHT HAND] second's earlier he Powerdrill just missed with the same type of punch HOOPER WAY OVER CONFIDENT get's tagged then gets counted out on his STOMACH :doh: SOUNDS AS SIMILAR AS DAY AND NIGHT [ AND I'V GOTTA SAY I BELIEVE HOOPER CAN REBOUND FROM THIS SETBACK.]
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Grant wrote:Looked very similar KO to Anthony Mundine's KO in Germany against Ottke
Grant in what way did these two completely different KO'S look similar Ottkes punch was to Mundines temple area [IT DID'NT TRAVEL FAR] he then landed on his BACK then was counted out much later in the fight it was in round 10 when Mundine was out of gas, Mundine was still a novice with only 9/10 pro fight's under his belt and only 2 amateur fight's As for Hoopers KO loss 30/40 second's into round 1 this was a HAIL MARY TYPE OF PUNCH[RIGHT HAND] second's earlier he Powerdrill just missed with the same type of punch HOOPER WAY OVER CONFIDENT get's tagged then gets counted out on his STOMACH :doh: SOUNDS AS SIMILAR AS DAY AND NIGHT [ AND I'V GOTTA SAY I BELIEVE HOOPER CAN REBOUND FROM THIS SETBACK.]
I suppose fighters early in their career occasionally come back from bad early KO's. Oleg Maskeav came back from getting walloped by Oliver McCall in two for instance. But usually fighters exposed in a round by a tomato can don't have a rosy boxing future. And don't tell me the guy who beat Hooper wasn't a tomato can - he will never be more than some kind of domestic scene brawler, with no international prospects.
Like a Boss
Light Heavyweight
Posts: 5863
Joined: 01 May 2012, 03:21

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by Like a Boss »

polecateddy wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Grant wrote:Looked very similar KO to Anthony Mundine's KO in Germany against Ottke
Grant in what way did these two completely different KO'S look similar Ottkes punch was to Mundines temple area [IT DID'NT TRAVEL FAR] he then landed on his BACK then was counted out much later in the fight it was in round 10 when Mundine was out of gas, Mundine was still a novice with only 9/10 pro fight's under his belt and only 2 amateur fight's As for Hoopers KO loss 30/40 second's into round 1 this was a HAIL MARY TYPE OF PUNCH[RIGHT HAND] second's earlier he Powerdrill just missed with the same type of punch HOOPER WAY OVER CONFIDENT get's tagged then gets counted out on his STOMACH :doh: SOUNDS AS SIMILAR AS DAY AND NIGHT [ AND I'V GOTTA SAY I BELIEVE HOOPER CAN REBOUND FROM THIS SETBACK.]
I suppose fighters early in their career occasionally come back from bad early KO's. Oleg Maskeav came back from getting walloped by Oliver McCall in two for instance. But usually fighters exposed in a round by a tomato can don't have a rosy boxing future. And don't tell me the guy who beat Hooper wasn't a tomato can - he will never be more than some kind of domestic scene brawler, with no international prospects.
As you said, some fighters come back from bad early KOs. In fact many have. So it isn't necessarily the end for Hooper. Just a stern test of what he's made of and where he's headed.
p4p1
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 5852
Joined: 23 Apr 2007, 07:43

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by p4p1 »

polecateddy wrote:Tsyzu wasn't. He was definitely based in the U.S. as he built towards his peak, beating Lopez and the like.
Based in the U.S. while living in Sydney, training in sydney with an australian trainer, australian promoter. He has literally never ever lived in the US so I don't what the fornicate you're talking about.
buster007
Heavyweight
Heavyweight
Posts: 1899
Joined: 11 Oct 2007, 00:58

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by buster007 »

ignore the hater.
bogan whisperer
Middleweight
Posts: 1668
Joined: 15 Aug 2013, 19:24

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by bogan whisperer »

polecateddy wrote:
buster007 wrote:That shot would have dropped plenty of fighters. Trick is not to get hit like that.


don't worry bash, polecaddy hates all ozzies.
Hardly. I've lived in Oz nearly 5 years. Just the AU boxing scene is very dead now.
You seem to have a fixation about nationalities. You claim to have lived in Oz for nearly 5 years. What is your nationality?
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by expe »

p4p1 wrote:
polecateddy wrote:Tsyzu wasn't. He was definitely based in the U.S. as he built towards his peak, beating Lopez and the like.
Based in the U.S. while living in Sydney, training in sydney with an australian trainer, australian promoter. He has literally never ever lived in the US so I don't what the eff you're talking about.
And he's still Russian.
polecateddy
Heavyweight
Heavyweight

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by polecateddy »

bash for cash wrote:
polecateddy wrote:
buster007 wrote:That shot would have dropped plenty of fighters. Trick is not to get hit like that.


don't worry bash, polecaddy hates all ozzies.
Hardly. I've lived in Oz nearly 5 years. Just the AU boxing scene is very dead now.
You seem to have a fixation about nationalities. You claim to have lived in Oz for nearly 5 years. What is your nationality?
British. I may have been off the mark with Tszyu. He made his name fighting in the US, but if he did all his training in AU I stand corrected. Although I suspect he spent plenty of time training in American gyms getting ready for some of his peak fights.
ClivePatrickLyons
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2811
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 22:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

polecateddy wrote:
ClivePatrickLyons wrote:
Grant wrote:Looked very similar KO to Anthony Mundine's KO in Germany against Ottke
Grant in what way did these two completely different KO'S look similar Ottkes punch was to Mundines temple area [IT DID'NT TRAVEL FAR] he then landed on his BACK then was counted out much later in the fight it was in round 10 when Mundine was out of gas, Mundine was still a novice with only 9/10 pro fight's under his belt and only 2 amateur fight's As for Hoopers KO loss 30/40 second's into round 1 this was a HAIL MARY TYPE OF PUNCH[RIGHT HAND] second's earlier he Powerdrill just missed with the same type of punch HOOPER WAY OVER CONFIDENT get's tagged then gets counted out on his STOMACH :doh: SOUNDS AS SIMILAR AS DAY AND NIGHT [ AND I'V GOTTA SAY I BELIEVE HOOPER CAN REBOUND FROM THIS SETBACK.]
I suppose fighters early in their career occasionally come back from bad early KO's. Oleg Maskeav came back from getting walloped by Oliver McCall in two for instance. But usually fighters exposed in a round by a tomato can don't have a rosy boxing future. And don't tell me the guy who beat Hooper wasn't a tomato can - he will never be more than some kind of domestic scene brawler, with no international prospects.
Time will tell with Hooper hope I'm right about him rebounding from this PRETTY BIG SETBACK point taken what you said about what level Powerdrill at but still can punch, myself I can't judge the bloke don't know enough about his back ground Hooper his a huge role model with Indigineous Australian's and people from all work's of life had a tough upbringing in a small country town in Queensland called Dalby [reared by his Grandmother] had some minor brush's with the law earn's a living as a community worker has well as pro fighter.
ClivePatrickLyons
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2811
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 22:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

polecateddy wrote:
Beltane wrote:Kostya Tszyu (last fought in 2005) and Vic Darchinyan were legit world title holders in the past 15 years and both surpassed Green and Mundine in ability wise during the last 15 years. Both did their best work overseas.

Both the Green and Mundine camps were able to skillfully promote themselves at a high level to the Australian public via various forms of the the media, hence their higher profile locally.
Come off it. Like me both might reside here, but they're hardly Australians! Lol
These two [Kostya/Vic fell in love with the greatest country on earth] Can you blame them NOT BORN HERA DAT TRUE
ClivePatrickLyons
Super Welterweight
Posts: 2811
Joined: 07 Aug 2014, 22:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by ClivePatrickLyons »

polecateddy wrote:
p4p1 wrote:you're mistaking guys who got coverage compared to the amount of good fighters we have/had. Green and Mundine always got more coverage than any other Aussie fighter in the last 15 years or so and it wasnt because of how good they were.
Go on enlighten me. Who did you have that were better fighters than Green and Mundine in the last 15 years. Forgetting the obvious recent dethroned champs.
MUNDINE AND GREEN GAVE AUSSIE BOXING LIFE SAVING MOUTH TO MOUTH EVERY TIME THEY STEPPED INTO THE RING JUST ABOUT
SO COUNT ME IN FOR THAT ENLIGHTMENT CLASS.
expe
Super Middleweight
Posts: 6871
Joined: 07 Oct 2012, 10:10

Re: was Damian Hooper sposed to get KO'd?

Post by expe »

polecateddy wrote:
Beltane wrote:Kostya Tszyu (last fought in 2005) and Vic Darchinyan were legit world title holders in the past 15 years and both surpassed Green and Mundine in ability wise during the last 15 years. Both did their best work overseas.

Both the Green and Mundine camps were able to skillfully promote themselves at a high level to the Australian public via various forms of the the media, hence their higher profile locally.
Come off it. Like me both might reside here, but they're hardly Australians! Lol
Neither of them actually live in Australia anymore, Tszyu's back in Moscow and Darchinyan's based in California.
Post Reply