Browne vs Welliver

[Tony1244]

Well, he stayed on his feet.

He can't be knocked down. He's an immovable object.

He looked obese @ 238 vs. Sherman Williams.

300?

[Kronkpride]

Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.

He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.

No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.

As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.

[punchoutsb]

Not a surprising result at all for all but one person in the universe.

I'm really glad to see Chauncy didn't go down though. His chin is very good, even though he's never been in with an elite puncher until today to my knowledge. Glad to see him keep his staying up streak at 100%. That's two 100% unbroken streaks now; Welliver not going down and kronk being wrong about a big Welliver fight.

[GilFilmore]

Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.

He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.

No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.

As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.

By the way you sound, Welliver should be a 1st Ballot Hall Of Famer.

[Kronkpride]

I got a chance to watch it and my opinion has changed. You Aussie MF'rs are some con artist shit heads not reporting what really happened in this fight. Browne F'n cheated and won the only way he could....head butting and corruption. You bastards better beware...Revenge Of Welliver Is Coming For You! Oi! Oi! Oi!

Good first round by Welliver. He started real good against Odlanier Solis around this weight as well. Good round 2 out of Browne. He landed some flush shots that didn't seem as big as they were because of Welliver's sturdiness. Good round 3 but Browne took it. Welliver is very game and in it, but the extra weight has slowed him down in both hands and feet. It's a good contest but could be an even better contest if Welliver came in lighter.

At 11:45 you can here Browne's corner saying in that last round they say you head butted him???? If that eye was a head butt then it is a no contest at this point. 3 rounds in busted eye socket from head butt. They let him go on from there. If that was a butt and a serious injury it should have got stopped right here. The damn eye just swells from there when they both butted and the eye was an accidental foul. He wasn't busted up by punches.

Australian Robbery! Welliver deserves a rematch. The whole 4th round it is balooning and not from the punching. Welliver is still in it and giving it his all but that eye was busted in the 3rd. He would have stayed in there all night. This is a travesty. Welliver did not get his day in court. There were still witnesses set to testify.

BROWNE VS WELLIVER 2 MUST HAPPEN!

You damn cheats! Can't even shake Welliver and you have to rob him to win. We aint going out like that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2n542a4kf0

[Zhuge]

Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.

He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.

No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.

As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.

By the way you sound, Welliver should be a 1st Ballot Hall Of Famer.

In fairness, what Kronk posted there is mostly true (with perhaps a bit of hyperbole added). Welliver isn't the most talented of the fighting Welliver brothers (the middle brother, Dewey, had the talent but none of the drive or dedication needed to truly be successful). Chauncy does have a very solid chin -- you certainly wouldn't expect a guy that looks like him to stand up to some of the shots he's able to withstand. And, Chauncy did an excellent job of marketing himself and working his way up the rankings. Chauncy understands how the ratings organizations work, so he made a point of going out and winning a lot of the regional belts. He was an oddity on the northwest and midwest circuits and took that show overseas to New Zealand where he continued to build himself up. Kronk is right that, given Chauncy's actual talent, it's impressive that he worked himself up to the position he was in and made a solid career for himself. He can certainly still go back to the South Pacific circuit and continue his career, but he really should commit to taking the weight off and keeping it off. Quite frankly, his constantly yo-yo of weight loss/gain is abysmal for his long-term health.

[Brute]

I got a chance to watch it and my opinion has changed. You Aussie MF'rs are some con artist poo heads not reporting what really happened in this fight. Browne F'n cheated and won the only way he could....head butting and corruption. You bastards better beware...Revenge Of Welliver Is Coming For You! Oi! Oi! Oi!

Good first round by Welliver. He started real good against Odlanier Solis around this weight as well. Good round 2 out of Browne. He landed some flush shots that didn't seem as big as they were because of Welliver's sturdiness. Good round 3 but Browne took it. Welliver is very game and in it, but the extra weight has slowed him down in both hands and feet. It's a good contest but could be an even better contest if Welliver came in lighter.

At 11:45 you can here Browne's corner saying in that last round they say you head butted him???? If that eye was a head butt then it is a no contest at this point. 3 rounds in busted eye socket from head butt. They let him go on from there. If that was a butt and a serious injury it should have got stopped right here. The damn eye just swells from there when they both butted and the eye was an accidental foul. He wasn't busted up by punches.

Australian Robbery! Welliver deserves a rematch. The whole 4th round it is balooning and not from the punching. Welliver is still in it and giving it his all but that eye was busted in the 3rd. He would have stayed in there all night. This is a travesty. Welliver did not get his day in court. There were still witnesses set to testify.

BROWNE VS WELLIVER 2 MUST HAPPEN!

You damn cheats! Can't even shake Welliver and you have to rob him to win. We aint going out like that!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2n542a4kf0

Pardon me if I am wrong, but was Welliver not the fat slob who did not win a round, kept leading with his head, used his hands more to pull up his shorts than to throw punches & was puffing like a grampus when it was over? What was Shonk Fried watching?

[Kronkpride]

Let Those Who Have Ears Hear....11:45 in.....double guy butt injury. 3rd round break. Welliver won the first round as well. He was well in it until and even past the butt. Dude can't even see 3 and a half rounds in. From a butt just 2-3 minutes before. The butt took less than 3 minutes to entirely close the eye....no contest....rematch.

[Kronkpride]

Wrestlemania in Australia. Head Butt the champ and then use the chance to try and knock down the guy who has never went down even though he is fighting blind. They still can't knock out a blind Welliver. Can't take him when he is using one arm vs Bronco Billy. Now Lucas can't take him down while he's blind! Nobody else can accomplish these feats. Klitschko's quit in positions like that. Busted arm in the 3rd round now busted eye socket in the 3rd round....2 fraudulent men saying they beat him. I'm surprised they didn't hit him with a steel chair from behind when the announcement was made.

[Lackeos]

I suppose the third time Chauncy fights a top 100 opponent, he will just win and there will be no excuses for losing. ........ probably not, though.

To be fair, there didn't seem to be a ton of separation between Welliver and Browne for about 2 rounds or so. But Welliver's body is like 300 pounds of Crisco shoved into a trash bag, so I don't think he's really built to go rounds against high quality operators. I would be intrigued to see if he could even hang with Shane Cameron or Kali Meehan, but I imagine he would wilt around round 7 or 8 against those individuals.

[Brute]

Wrestlemania in Australia. Head Butt the champ and then use the chance to try and knock down the guy who has never went down even though he is fighting blind. They still can't knock out a blind Welliver. Can't take him when he is using one arm vs Bronco Billy. Now Lucas can't take him down while he's blind! Nobody else can accomplish these feats. Klitschko's quit in positions like that. Busted arm in the 3rd round now busted eye socket in the 3rd round....2 fraudulent men saying they beat him. I'm surprised they didn't hit him with a steel chair from behind when the announcement was made.

Were you drunk when you watched it?

[The Great John L]

Not a surprising result at all for all but one person in the universe.

I'm really glad to see Chauncy didn't go down though. His chin is very good, even though he's never been in with an elite puncher until today to my knowledge. Glad to see him keep his staying up streak at 100%. That's two 100% unbroken streaks now; Welliver not going down and kronk being wrong about a big Welliver fight.

He's still never been in with an elite puncher. Yes, Browne is a hard puncher, but hardly elite.

[cold187]

i have a confession, i am a welliver fan-boy too

i liked how he said to Browne after the fight "got get klitschko". inside he knows Browne is a over-hyped fat piece of lard and wants Browne to get a pasting. however Browne is far to smart to get pasted so will stick to fighting stiffs.

[Tony1244]

Welliver did much worse than expected. I thought he might go the distance and win a couple rounds. I'm not a doctor, but his morbid obesity reflects some serious psychological and/or physical problems. Maybe he gains 10 LBS after eating a sandwich. I don't know. There was no headbutt.

[Zhuge]

No reason for Browne-Welliver 2. Chauncy needs to get in shape and perhaps figure out what is causing his weight to yo yo so dramatically (and if that's simply a case of being unable to push away from the dinner table, then he needs to fix that).

[Tony1244]

Feed Welliver to Joe Parker and Joshua. Considering he has never been knocked down (supposedly) and has only been stopped three times in over 50 fights, he is a good test for how those guys beat him, not if, but how.

[Tony1244]

In fairness, what Kronk posted there is mostly true (with perhaps a bit of hyperbole added). Welliver isn't the most talented of the fighting Welliver brothers (the middle brother, Dewey, had the talent but none of the drive or dedication needed to truly be successful). Chauncy does have a very solid chin -- you certainly wouldn't expect a guy that looks like him to stand up to some of the shots he's able to withstand. And, Chauncy did an excellent job of marketing himself and working his way up the rankings. Chauncy understands how the ratings organizations work, so he made a point of going out and winning a lot of the regional belts. He was an oddity on the northwest and midwest circuits and took that show overseas to New Zealand where he continued to build himself up. Kronk is right that, given Chauncy's actual talent, it's impressive that he worked himself up to the position he was in and made a solid career for himself. He can certainly still go back to the South Pacific circuit and continue his career, but he really should commit to taking the weight off and keeping it off. Quite frankly, his constantly yo-yo of weight loss/gain is abysmal for his long-term health.[/quote]>>Zhuge



Hit the nail on the head.

[GilFilmore]

Kronkpride has to be trolling

[GilFilmore]

Congratulations to Lucas Browne. He stopped Welliver with his fists. Solis did not and Bronco Billy got the gift of a life time. Lucas damaged him and is the only person to ever legitimately stop Chauncy.

He's still never been down though. 405 rounds. And he is still the most gifted chin of this generation across all weight classes. And his climb to #5 in the world with the WBO and WBC is probably the biggest feat done in boxing this decade. He was not even the best boxer in his family. He never wanted to even be a boxer. And he was a side show for a long time before he got serious to make his run the best he could. And it culminated in what is the biggest results/talent ratio this decade. Nobody with less got further. His chin is the only world class tool he has. His power is very poor for HW. His speed is not all that. His technique is also not all that good. But his chin and heart is unmatched. And when it comes down to it he went as far as he could with what he had. A couple points in China derailed what could have been an ultra epic run but it still was rather epic. Nobody will ever forget him or his #1 fan in this world not also named Welliver. I am proud of him and everything he did. Team Welliver 4 Life.

No excuses. The better man won. The more prepared man won. And hopefully Browne can keep on winning and give Australia the HW Champion they've been looking for.

As for Chauncy, heal up my brother and know that we will always back you up, whether you keep fighting or not. You are a hero of heroes, a champion of champions, and the iron chin of iron chins. 100% proud of everything you've done.

[Kronkpride]

I posted congratulations before I got to see the fight. I trusted the Aussie punks in the thread had told the truth about what happened in the fight. Then I watched it and it was all BS! The Aussie's are more blind than Chauncy with a completely closed eye.

The 2 guys clashed heads and the cuts to both were from that clash. Browne got the least of the damage by quite a damn ways. Browne's corner even says they said you head butted him in the corner between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Welliver's eye balloons from there and it was not from punching. The butt fractured his eye socket. Then the clown arse announcers lie like crazy and say Browne's hands caused the damage.....not a bit. Browne couldn't even shake him when he got to tee off for 5 minutes on a blind fighter. The announcers say Chauncy doesn't want to be in there.....he can't even see what is going on in there in the 5th round at all. The whole thing was a biased joke.

They intentionally did not show the replays in the 3rd round where the head butt occurred. They also intentionally never commented on what Browne's corner said about the head butt. Browne's corner admits to being told ringside about the head butt so the knowledge is there all about it....they sweep it under the rug. Lie like some douchebags and make claims that things went on and are going on because Browne did the damage. He did the damage with his damn head. They would not even show how Browne got his cut or how Welliver got his......piss poor coverage. The reason they did not is because it was a head butt. No Contest at the end of the 3rd round is how any professionally ran bout would go. They robbed Welliver and then slandered him while hiding the truth.

Can you people not hear what is said at 11:45 in the Browne corner? Can you people not see the simultaneous cuts caused by the head butt commented on at 11:45 i the video? Can you not see that the TV crew made 0 effort to identify where the cuts came from? Can you not see that Welliver is as blind as can be in the 5th round. The only time Browne shows any separation in the fight is after the head butt and against a blinded opponent. They are going crazy for him like he did something except benefit from a clash of heads that should have stopped the bout after 3 rounds. If Browne's eye was the closed eye the bout would have been stopped and ruled a no contest...and they would have showed the butt happen. But Browne was the house fighter and everybody in the building went along with the fake arse story instead of telling and showing the truth. F You Aussies!

[HomicideHenry]

Damn Welliver... could you at least of lost 30-40 pounds before coming into the ring with that remarkable beer belly?

Don't you have any self pride in your appearance? fornicate... the dude has just taken the prize of being the new Butterbean.

[Tony1244]

I posted congratulations before I got to see the fight. I trusted the Aussie punks in the thread had told the truth about what happened in the fight. Then I watched it and it was all BS! The Aussie's are more blind than Chauncy with a completely closed eye.

The 2 guys clashed heads and the cuts to both were from that clash. Browne got the least of the damage by quite a damn ways. Browne's corner even says they said you head butted him in the corner between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Welliver's eye balloons from there and it was not from punching. The butt fractured his eye socket. Then the clown arse announcers lie like crazy and say Browne's hands caused the damage.....not a bit. Browne couldn't even shake him when he got to tee off for 5 minutes on a blind fighter. The announcers say Chauncy doesn't want to be in there.....he can't even see what is going on in there in the 5th round at all. The whole thing was a biased joke.

They intentionally did not show the replays in the 3rd round where the head butt occurred. They also intentionally never commented on what Browne's corner said about the head butt. Browne's corner admits to being told ringside about the head butt so the knowledge is there all about it....they sweep it under the rug. Lie like some douchebags and make claims that things went on and are going on because Browne did the damage. He did the damage with his damn head. They would not even show how Browne got his cut or how Welliver got his......piss poor coverage. The reason they did not is because it was a head butt. No Contest at the end of the 3rd round is how any professionally ran bout would go. They robbed Welliver and then slandered him while hiding the truth.

Can you people not hear what is said at 11:45 in the Browne corner? Can you people not see the simultaneous cuts caused by the head butt commented on at 11:45 i the video? Can you not see that the TV crew made 0 effort to identify where the cuts came from? Can you not see that Welliver is as blind as can be in the 5th round. The only time Browne shows any separation in the fight is after the head butt and against a blinded opponent. They are going crazy for him like he did something except benefit from a clash of heads that should have stopped the bout after 3 rounds. If Browne's eye was the closed eye the bout would have been stopped and ruled a no contest...and they would have showed the butt happen. But Browne was the house fighter and everybody in the building went along with the fake arse story instead of telling and showing the truth. F You Aussies!

Kronk, Browne was using Chauncey's head as a speedbag. I'm not Aussie, looks like a great place though.

[GilFilmore]

I posted congratulations before I got to see the fight. I trusted the Aussie punks in the thread had told the truth about what happened in the fight. Then I watched it and it was all BS! The Aussie's are more blind than Chauncy with a completely closed eye.

The 2 guys clashed heads and the cuts to both were from that clash. Browne got the least of the damage by quite a damn ways. Browne's corner even says they said you head butted him in the corner between the 3rd and 4th rounds. Welliver's eye balloons from there and it was not from punching. The butt fractured his eye socket. Then the clown arse announcers lie like crazy and say Browne's hands caused the damage.....not a bit. Browne couldn't even shake him when he got to tee off for 5 minutes on a blind fighter. The announcers say Chauncy doesn't want to be in there.....he can't even see what is going on in there in the 5th round at all. The whole thing was a biased joke.

They intentionally did not show the replays in the 3rd round where the head butt occurred. They also intentionally never commented on what Browne's corner said about the head butt. Browne's corner admits to being told ringside about the head butt so the knowledge is there all about it....they sweep it under the rug. Lie like some douchebags and make claims that things went on and are going on because Browne did the damage. He did the damage with his damn head. They would not even show how Browne got his cut or how Welliver got his......piss poor coverage. The reason they did not is because it was a head butt. No Contest at the end of the 3rd round is how any professionally ran bout would go. They robbed Welliver and then slandered him while hiding the truth.

Can you people not hear what is said at 11:45 in the Browne corner? Can you people not see the simultaneous cuts caused by the head butt commented on at 11:45 i the video? Can you not see that the TV crew made 0 effort to identify where the cuts came from? Can you not see that Welliver is as blind as can be in the 5th round. The only time Browne shows any separation in the fight is after the head butt and against a blinded opponent. They are going crazy for him like he did something except benefit from a clash of heads that should have stopped the bout after 3 rounds. If Browne's eye was the closed eye the bout would have been stopped and ruled a no contest...and they would have showed the butt happen. But Browne was the house fighter and everybody in the building went along with the fake arse story instead of telling and showing the truth. F You Aussies!

Very strong argument here Kronk. You should appeal the stoppage. This should be a no contest. Chauncey Welliver is still the best pound for pound fighter ever.

[Kronkpride]

We protest with the people and demand a rematch and more matches against the weak punching Aussie HW's.

I was doing some stat computation on Welliver's career to this point. As we all know he has 405 straight HW rounds without going down 2nd only in the active ranks to the ancient Oliver McCall and 3rd all time in the ranks behind Chuvalo and McCall. 405 rounds is a hell of a big sampling and considering Welliver lost a couple hand fulls of fights, and a good bit of rounds along the way, it is fair to say he has taken thousands and thousands of punches in his career. The biggest beef people have is his level of competition. Well I broke some stats out of them.

At the time of the fight, not their career before and after, Welliver's opponents have had a combined 577 KO stoppages of some form or another against various other HW's. 577 dudes dropped and stopped behind their punches. Chauncy goes 405 rounds against the same fists that have dropped and stopped 577 men and never gets dropped a single time. Gold Medalists to Arm Wrestling Champion Loudmouths, he's fought them all the way up and down the scale. Starting at 18 and just a pup. Overall the guys he's fought have stopped over 700 other HW's in their careers.

HW boxers can punch. Even many of the guys who are not very good can punch. No matter how you slice it Chauncy Welliver has proven to have an iron chin. The only thing keeping a David Tua like Lucas Browne highlight KO from going around today is Welliver's massive beard. He was clobbered while blind with some big arse bombs that looked an awful lot like Tua vs Ruiz without the guy crumbling under the shots. He's taken everything and the kitchen sink in his fights. Australia stepped up to try and take him down.....AUSTRALIA FAILED!

[Lackeos]

Kronkpride has to be trolling

I recently discovered his youtube channel and realized that he's even more crazy than he seems, and you can absolutely take everything he says at face value, and he's definitely not trolling.