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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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cold187 wrote:
tiny_acres wrote:
cold187 wrote:Pulev out, jennings goes to 1st tier, as HBO and K2 are looking to make this next if all works out.
Ive left the 4th place on Tier 2 empty. Lets see how Tarver fairs, i think he is set up to beat banks, and who knows, get a voluntary on HBO if he wins.

One of chisora and fury will be out in 2 weeks
From a financial stand point.Fury is the better challenger then Chisora.People are more apt to watch
an undefeated challenger than one with multiple losses.
The build up of Wlad Fury would be fun with Fury's big mouth.HBO would have a hit on their hands.
yep a fury fight will be bigger sa vitali (and haye) already beat chisora so takes away the ecitement

in germany thought Wlad vs Huck will be MASSIVE!!!!!!!
I'm a Huck fan.And even I do not want to see this.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Fury would make a great opponent for Wlad if Fury wins his next fight. An undefeated hvy in his prime who is several inches taller than Wlad.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Wlad will KO Fury but I will want to watch the fight more so than many of the other options out there for Wlad.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Klitschko is going to fight the winner of Fury - Chisora next. Then it is depending on how the Stiverne-Wilder fight finishes. If Stiverne wins then it is a possibility that they do a unification. If Wilder wins, he will need to do one defense against the #1 ranked WBC (Bryant Jennings), and maybe Haymon agrees to a unification fight after, although I doubt it will happen that fast.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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They revealed the options:

http://www.BS.com/klitschkos-o ... ril--84316?

Wilder/Stiverne winner
Jennings
Fury/Chisora winner

Briggs is not being considered.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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updated
1. chisora out
2. only one 3d tier fighter remains
3. have took povetkin out unless he beats another top contender (management said if rematch will be 2016)
4. Just to clarify ive left AJ out as no way the fight happens (although he is talent and the fight will sell)
5. ive also took out Andy ruiz jr

purporse is for the list to get shorter...
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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vovazilvova wrote:Povetkin rematch is a possibility.
disagree. literally nobody wants that fight,
including povektin and putin. though wlad
might be all for it ...
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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there is only two wlad fights people want to see.
fury
wilder

if wilder can ko stiverne, the wlad fight sells like
tyson-lewis. mark my words.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Wlad vs Fury would be Lewis vs Grant all over again. Wlad wins by KO within 3.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Personally I would like to see the winner of Wilder/Stiverne fight Wlad next. If not, Jennings, then Fury. If Wilder or Stiverne fight him next, then it would be great to see Jennings vs Fury.
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I don't understand how you got Deontay above Tyson. Tyson has proven WAY more in the ring plus he's the bigger draw. Deontay is potentially more exciting with his record of all KO's, BUT not until he actually beats Bermane impressively or does....something. Even with his recent layoffs Tyson is the more attractive matchup & you got Antonio Tarver on the list so it would seem layoffs aren't that big of a deal to you as he hasn't fought in a year & he's only had 4 fights in the last 5 years.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Based on the various interviews that I've watched on IFL tv (which turns out to be quite an accurate source). Warren and Hennessy will put start negociations with the Klitschko camp for the WBO title as early as summer 2015 or September 2015.
Frank made it very clear that the WBO will start the purse bids as soon as the Jennings fight is over.

As for Anthony Joshua, Eddie Hearn makes absolutely no sense on his strategy with him. The latest is that he will step up opposition this year with a fight with Tyson Fury in the summer of 2015 (doesn't make sense as Fury is looking at Wlad then). Joshua was saying yesterday that he would like to fight in Glasgow, Dublin and Watford in the next 6 months.
A couple of months ago, Joshua said that he would be looking at a world title eliminator by the end of 2015. So, no fight with Wlad before 2016 (if he hasn't retired by then).
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ReggieDiggs wrote:I don't understand how you got Deontay above Tyson. Tyson has proven WAY more in the ring plus he's the bigger draw. Deontay is potentially more exciting with his record of all KO's, BUT not until he actually beats Bermane impressively or does....something. Even with his recent layoffs Tyson is the more attractive matchup & you got Antonio Tarver on the list so it would seem layoffs aren't that big of a deal to you as he hasn't fought in a year & he's only had 4 fights in the last 5 years.
its not as ranking.
ive just out any of the top 4 in that top tier!!
agree tyson is bigger in every way than wilder!!!

ive just put tarver there as he;s fighting banks, he is a name, ranked by WBA and will sell a fight well with wladimir. wether he still good i doubt it.

I think AJ waxes alot of the top guys but ive left him out as there is 0% chance that fight actually happens!
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Such a shame that we really can't pick many fighters that would test him. The fight I want to see happen is against Wilder, for two reasons. The first is because I would like to see someone go in there and hopefully land one big shot on Wladamir. The second is to see whether Wilder is all hype. His punching power makes it interesting, but not if he cannot land one.

Huck would be pointless, he was beaten well by Povetkin, who was manhandled by Klitschko. Tarver is too old and past it. Jennings would bring some interest from the US fans, but I can't see it being much of a contest.
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cold187 wrote:This thread is one I'm going to keep active until Wladimir retires. I'm expecting him to retire with no further losses but with few options.
It grades the fighters available who can fight him in the next 1.5-2 years. Fighters are ranked on 3 things. Ranking, Record and Revenue. I've purposely left out previous (klitschko) Victims unless they have a good winning streak
I don't expect him to fight all these as some will be eliminated .
1st Tier

1. Jennings - Next Fight Klitschko April 25th
2. Stiverne - Next Fight Wilder Jan 17th
3. Wilder - Next fight Stiverne Jan 17th
4. Fury - Next Fight February 23rd

2nd Tier

1. Glazkov - Next Fight Cunningham March 14th (IBF Eliminator)
2. Marco Huck - WBO SUPER CHAMP
3. Christian Hammer - Ranked and Good streak
4. Lucas Browne

3rd Tier

1. Antonio Tarver - Banks December 11th
2. Andy Ruiz Jr - next fight Laikovich Dec 20th
3. Steve Cunningham - Next Fight Glazkov March 14th (only put in as next fight ibf eliminator)

New fighters can MIGHT enter when current fighters are eliminated and if there is a chance it can happen

Feel Free to comment!

Pulev, Chisora and Takam eliminated
Jennings is an okay choice. Up next I'd like to see the winner Wilder vs. Stiverne. If the winner of that fight wants an easy 1st title match, Wlad can pick Fury.

Like it or not, Wlad vs Fury would be a big fight for the UK.

I see it:

Jennings - April 25th
Fury - June-October 2015
Winner of Wilder vs Stiverene. Dec 2015 to March 2016

Glazkov would be a fine stay busy fight is negations stall.
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cold187 wrote:
ReggieDiggs wrote:I don't understand how you got Deontay above Tyson. Tyson has proven WAY more in the ring plus he's the bigger draw. Deontay is potentially more exciting with his record of all KO's, BUT not until he actually beats Bermane impressively or does....something. Even with his recent layoffs Tyson is the more attractive matchup & you got Antonio Tarver on the list so it would seem layoffs aren't that big of a deal to you as he hasn't fought in a year & he's only had 4 fights in the last 5 years.
its not as ranking.
ive just out any of the top 4 in that top tier!!
agree tyson is bigger in every way than wilder!!!
Well you're saying
fighters are ranked on 3 things. Ranking, Record and Revenue.

& you got them listed in order by number
1. Jennings - Next Fight Klitschko April 25th
2. Stiverne - Next Fight Wilder Jan 17th
3. Wilder - Next fight Stiverne Jan 17th
4. Fury - Next Fight February 23rd
I believe Tyson outranks Deontay in all 3 categories easy. I suppose if you're going by ABC org rankings maybe Deontay beats Tyson, mainly cuz I don't pay attention to ABC org rankings, but in the universal rankings Tyson is higher. Resume & $$$ Tyson gots Deontay crushed. Most still don't even know who Deontay is cuz he ain't did anything. His sexy perfect record hasn't even garnered him as much attention as I'm sure he's team would have hoped.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Well you're saying
fighters are ranked on 3 things. Ranking, Record and Revenue.

& you got them listed in order by number
1. Jennings - Next Fight Klitschko April 25th
2. Stiverne - Next Fight Wilder Jan 17th
3. Wilder - Next fight Stiverne Jan 17th
4. Fury - Next Fight February 23rd
I believe Tyson outranks Deontay in all 3 categories easy. I suppose if you're going by ABC org rankings maybe Deontay beats Tyson, mainly cuz I don't pay attention to ABC org rankings, but in the universal rankings Tyson is higher. Resume & $$$ Tyson gots Deontay crushed. Most still don't even know who Deontay is cuz he ain't did anything. His sexy perfect record hasn't even garnered him as much attention as I'm sure he's team would have hoped.[/quote]


please dont lose sleep over it, i'll change it for. i apologise for not doing it with microscopic details...relax man, grouping the fighters rather than ranking. ive only numbered them to keep 4 fighters per group, its just a idea mate
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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cold187 wrote: please dont lose sleep over it, i'll change it for. i apologise for not doing it with microscopic details...relax man, grouping the fighters rather than ranking. ive only numbered them to keep 4 fighters per group, its just a idea mate
I ain't losing sleep over it lol. You said throw out comments & shit. So I threw out a comment. If you don't wanna be critiqued about it fair enough. I wouldn't post it here or just mention you don't actually want comments if I was you in that case. Idk man. You took the time to come up with all this & keep it updated & such so figured I'd engage with you.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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Fair play. :-)

The reason for this was just to explore options for wlad. We know boxing is a business and ask wlad never ducks his mandatory. Also looks for money fights too. Eg huck is big money fight in Germany
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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jennings out, fury will be next for wlad.
no new boxers added
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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ive updated this.
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Post by man »

ReggieDiggs wrote:Antonio Tarver is on the list? Thats silly. I'd say Shannon Briggs is higher on a real "Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstakes" list. He's as bs a opponent, but they got all this hype with Wlad & Shannon with all these videos.
i think the shannon thing had some traction,
but now it is more an embarrassing stunt for
shannon. this fight won't happen and briggs
will stop the nonsense. haye managed to talk
himself into a fight with wlad, shannon won't.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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ive added joseph parker now with anthony joshua.
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

Post by forestbox »

1.wilder
2.glazkov
3.terper
4.parker
5.joshua
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Re: Wladimir Klitschko Sweepstake

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thread now ruined but will keep going on the assumption wlad somehow turns his wrong to right
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