Anyone else suspicious of Vlad?

[lefty]

Bigger version.

exactly as i would hold my hand if i wanted
to hide something while i am covered live on
TV around the globe.

and how did he grow that physique in the
first place? i only say cernobyl. watch their
bio documentary … they played in the water.

just saying' ...

LOL you saying Wlad is a mutant? Haha.

[Scizzle123]

http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on ... last-fight

[Broomhall]

I will check it out... but in all honesty, why would a man whose almost 6'7" and weighs 250 pounds (and more when he isnt fighting) need to do load his gloves?... I mean how often have you seen such evidence for other fights in the passed ten years since he became the dominate champion?... I guess it just isnt enough, is it, to say that he beat a top contender who happened to have a stupid game plan.

I,m not saying Klitschko cheats-like you I dont think he needs to, but I am saying it can be done and when done properly is effective.

[zorndeslammes]

I wouldn't be surprised if Klitschko and every single guy he's fought in the last 15 years was on the gas. I would be surprised if he loaded his gloves.

[clubberlang]

Im no expert on handwraps but when a fighter inflicts that kind of facial damage and then cuts off his own wraps as quickly as he can it makes me wonder, espically when that fighter has been accused of margarito wrapping before and then gets photographed with a massive amount of tape around the knuckle area.

[jamesmcdonnell]

There is a specified length of gauze that can be used to wrap the hands, how you wrap them is down to the trainer - different trainers wrap them differently, I've seen other fighters with similar wraps.

[clubberlang]

Im interested in boxing, i leave backstage logistics to the more anally retentive.

What was i thinking I forgot those incorruptible pillars of justice at the WBA, IBF and WBO were overseeing the fight, i will sleep soundly 2nite dreaming of superbelts and christmas miracles (Like black Santa i mean Vaughan Bean becoming the number 1 heavyweight contender)

[ArmaanCFC]

please.

[SteveO]

If there was any genuine concern about Wladimir's hand wraps, would the appointed supervisors from the IBF, WBA & WBO, as well as an authorised member from the challengers camp, who all witness the bandaging itself... not raise their concerns?

I know that Vitali Klitschko nearly always witnesses the hand wrap bandaging for his brothers opponents... and I thought that a member from the challengers' camp performed the equivalent task when Wladimir's' hands are being wrapped?

I thought that boxing gloves are also taped up and then signed by an official to ensure that it is not tampered with?

Exactly

[Scizzle123]

Pulev had a member of his team watch the hand wrap...

[Bobbyptsd]

I'm suspicious he might be significantly better than any other heavyweight since Lewis retired.

[KBB]

His refusal to take a drug test and the size of the knuckle part of those hand wraps are really setting alarm bells ringing for me, Hes such a big money spinner in Germany that I really dont think the German boxing authority cant be trusted to fairly monitor him.

No you can't blame Wlad because according to some here (without any proof whatsoever) only BHop at an advanced age is doing PEDS.

[PUGLET]

You guys do realize that the reason Vitaly didn't go to the '96 games in Atlanta was because of a positive test for PED's, right?.... That was 18 yrs ago, they're brothers, it's not a huge stretch to assume Wladmir has used in the past and may or may not be currently. Given the prolific use of PED's in the Eastern Bloc countries during the '80's and '90's... It is by NO MEANS ludicrous to consider strongly that he is using.

[cjdragon]

Pretty much any successful fighter could be a suspected PED user...but really, I don't think such allegations should be thrown around like that.
I really doubt Wladimir Klitschko is juiced on PED's. He's a smart guy who seems to care about his legacy, I personally don't think he would risk throwing that all away by taking PED's.

[tiny_acres]

You guys do realize that the reason Vitaly didn't go to the '96 games in Atlanta was because of a positive test for PED's, right?.... That was 18 yrs ago, they're brothers, it's not a huge stretch to assume Wladmir has used in the past and may or may not be currently. Given the prolific use of PED's in the Eastern Bloc countries during the '80's and '90's... It is by NO MEANS ludicrous to consider strongly that he is using.

I personally find it astonishing that people choose to issue false allegations operating purely on the basis that “there’s no smoke without fire”, which merely demonstrates their own ignorance coupled with a distinct lack of intellect!

• It is categorically impossible to correlate the actions of Vitali Klitschko and his brother in 1996. They are two independently-minded individuals that are responsible for their own choices in life.
• Vitali Klitschko took steroids to heal a leg injury and his doctor didn’t check the banned substance list, which cost him a place in the Olympic Games. This is not a secret… in fact Vitali wrote about this issue in his autobiography.
• Vitali Klitschko failed the drug test in 1996, which is more than 18 years ago… he has been routinely tested for PED’s during his professional career and never failed a single test since.
• Wladimir Klitschko has never failed a drug test.
• Wladimir Klitschko is routinely tested for PED’s for each and every single one of his contests by the German Boxing Federation (BDB), which was the same organisation that banned Mariusz Wach & Sam Soliman.
• Wladimir Klitschko doesn’t seem to do anything physically remarkable to justify any alleged PED use.
• Wladimir should not be accused of being guilty based on his association to his brother.
• In terms of drug testing protocols, Wladimir Klitschko is under no obligation to do anything more than follow the rules of his sport, which he clearly adheres to.

It’s an appalling notion to claim that Wladimir should be “assumed” as being “guilty until proven innocent”!

So do you feel the same way about Hopkins,Pacquiao and Marquez??? Or just Wlad?
I agree that they should be innocent until proven guilty but these fighters are always linked to suspicion of PEDS.
My personal opinion is most top athletes are taking something.But I have no proof

[Rodian]

he got better because the opposition got worse. if you need PEDs to beat these bums then youre a fornicating failure

now dont get me wrong, Wlad would have wiped the floor with some of the great heavyweights of the 60-70-80s

[PUGLET]

".... not a huge stretch to assume...." is hardly an accusation. It is a candid, realistic observation of the facts. Vitaly has had a positive test in the past. When was the last time your physician prescribed and administered to you a PED or Anabolic Steroid for an injury of any nature?

[rhino222]

if the accusation is one of 'pop' then just to inform you guys it takes 24 hours to dry properly.......a pop on a leg takes 48 hours!!

[cjdragon]

".... not a huge stretch to assume...." is hardly an accusation. It is a candid, realistic observation of the facts. Vitaly has had a positive test in the past. When was the last time your physician prescribed and administered to you a PED or Anabolic Steroid for an injury of any nature?

My sister, brother and my girlfriend have had steroids administered to them in the hospital.
Steroids are used for breathing problems and other medical issues, and I doubt my brother would pass a doping test because of the meds he takes even now.

Still though, it's silly to accuse any boxer who has never once failed a test during his pro career.

(Edit- not saying you accused anyone Puglet. Just responding to a couple points you brought up)

[Lenny]

His refusal to take a drug test and the size of the knuckle part of those hand wraps are really setting alarm bells ringing for me, Hes such a big money spinner in Germany that I really dont think the German boxing authority cant be trusted to fairly monitor him.

You don't trust Germany, the country that is going to make using banned substances illegal?

[493dart]

Jesus......give the guy credit...

credit for what ??

fighting bums?

clinching and hugging every 8 seconds ?

jumping at the opponent so he can hug ?

pushing his opponents ?

fighting like a scared lil girl ?

did you even watch the povetkin and pulev "fights" ???


Clinchko is a fkn disgrace to boxing

[cjdragon]

Jesus......give the guy credit...

credit for what ??

fighting bums?

clinching and hugging every 8 seconds ?

jumping at the opponent so he can hug ?

pushing his opponents ?

fighting like a scared lil girl ?

did you even watch the povetkin and pulev "fights" ???


Clinchko is a fkn disgrace to boxing

Man, that's definitely one of the most drunken posts I have ever read...and I say that after consuming a 6-pack tonight haha :)
Got to love Saturday nights on a boxing forum

[punchoutsb]

Jesus......give the guy credit...

credit for what ??

fighting bums?

clinching and hugging every 8 seconds ?

jumping at the opponent so he can hug ?

pushing his opponents ?

fighting like a scared lil girl ?

did you even watch the povetkin and pulev "fights" ???


Clinchko is a fkn disgrace to boxing

Every time I think I've read boxrecs silliest offerings, someone comes along and pushes the boundaries of stupidity even further. Congrats 493dart, you are a pioneer!

[BAD INTENTIONS]

This is the bias that I'm always bitching about. Floyd Mayweather is a light-hitting shrimp. Yet, I've seen him accused of PED use, no one blinked, and many people said it's possible.

However, some of you have the audacity to question whether Wlad is juicing. I think Kovalev and GGG are too ... in fact, I think 95% of fighters are on something.

Note - I think Wlad is underrated by most people, and I have him top 10 p4p. So don't think I'm some American Wlad hater. I just like to keep my suspicions reasonable and fair.

[Raff The Frenchman]

Wlad is huge and musclebound because of his genes. Look at his father, look at his brother...
Pulev is also pretty big and athletic...The difference is technique, Wlad landed perfect flush counters, so TS, here's a present for you :