what we have learned from last night

mullenman
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what we have learned from last night

Post by mullenman »

The card had all the names on it but it was not a PPV card
Cleverly is not a cruiserweight and bellew is not world class
AJ has the brightest future in boxing at the moment
Degale is total quality and Froch will never fight him
Groves has been affected from the froch fights and Degale would take care of him fairly easy
Smith is a very good boxer and future world title contender
and scott quigg nobody really gives a shiit,,,,
FIGHTFANs
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Post by FIGHTFANs »

Thought it was a very poor show for PPV
magwitch
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I'm wondering if Tyson Fury's missed his chance here (at becoming a World Champ), in a p*ss poor division, now that a promising young boxer is coming up behind him, Anthony Joshua. I like Fury and he can grind out fights, but Joshua strikes me as an athlete and he'll soon be able to handle Tyson - if not already...
I can't even remember the last time Fury fought.
rhino222
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Post by rhino222 »

last night we learnt that the fishing was good, the stream was running clear. probably saved about 17 quid as if I had not gone fishing I would probably have gone out.
Boxerbeetle
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I hope everyone who purchased the PPV learned their lesson - if you keep buying sh!t, they'll keep selling you sh!t.
gasman
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The only thing I learned last night that in future I should consider there is an opportunity cost to watching a free stream.
Anyone who bought that pile of shit got what they paid for.
zero
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Boxerbeetle wrote:I hope everyone who purchased the PPV learned their lesson - if you keep buying sh!t, they'll keep selling you sh!t.
This^

Hearn's a salesman.
UrbanFox
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Post by UrbanFox »

We learnt that Eddie Hearn had no remorse, after probably the worst show of 2014, to announce that he was ready to look into Bellew v Cleverly III in Cardiff!
Andrew
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Boxerbeetle wrote:I hope everyone who purchased the PPV learned their lesson - if you keep buying sh!t, they'll keep selling you sh!t.
:bow: :bow: :bow:
brian13
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What we learned last night, is Terry O Connor has yet again been proven to be incompetent as a referee and a judge. The BBBofC need to start to demote some of these refs and judges because this is becoming a joke and its the same few.
tony1234
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Post by tony1234 »

Joshua needs to step up and fight a decent level heavyweight who is going to punch back instead of shop worn veterans like Sprott, Skelton etc, at the moment he could be the next World Champ or the next David Price. Hopefully Hearn and SKY will learn from this and not put such a poor and uncompetitive bill on PPV again or indeed any bill when we are already paying a fortune in monthly subs
Asian Boxing
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Post by Asian Boxing »

Quigg will struggle with a world class Super Bantamweight and is rather lucky they are a rare bleed, Frampton vs Quigg won't be made in a hurry that's for sure.
brian13
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mullenman wrote:Smith is a very good boxer and future world title contender
Based on his performance last night, I don't think he will be a contender. I think he would be a solid World champion. Smith was impressive, even more so given he had a family bereavement so close to the fight.
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Post by DazDiCanio »

Smith will be a contender, I like that lol
forcefraser
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Post by forcefraser »

What we have learnt or had reconfirmed, is that in boxing money talks. Cleverley comes into the fight with an injured hand but doesn`t pull out due to the money.

We also learnt or had reconfirmed that Bellew is a prize knob end, drama queen and persecuted scouse ingrate.

We have learnt or had confirmed that british officials are either incompetent or corrupt.

We have learnt that Froch would love to chin Glenn McCrory.

We have also learnt that Marco Huck would rip Bellew a new arsehole, as would any half decent cruiserweight, as despite carrying POWAAAAH, he could`t make a dent in a one armed man who had shot his bolt after 8 rounds.

The biggest lesson however has to be that some times our sport stinks the joint out and last night was one of them nights.
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Post by UrbanFox »

We have learnt that Joshua's next opponent is Kevin Johnson on 31st January.
Bodyshot3
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Post by Bodyshot3 »

I went 'old school' and listened to BBC 5 Live......a nice evening with Mike Costello, Woodhall and Darren Barker and their commentary and judgements leading the way. Barker is very good by the way.....sharp observations, good sense of humour and no waffle.

Joshua - Eddie H could be right, the guy is special and can be moved on quickly.
Groves - Barker sounded worried that Groves was too easy to tag, but sounded like a quality finish by Groves.
Degale - the team were impressed, Degale precise and always in control. But Periban really not up too much?
Quigg - good in parts against a basic Oriental tough guy, but definitely treading water.
Cleverley v Bellew - I got the impression from them that Bellew just wanted it more, switched it on during the last third and that Clev could not respond. Terry O'Connor's decision viewed with borderline contempt. No great desire for a decider.
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I learned that I could resist the marketing departments and boxing hype and not spend an extra 17 quid PPV charge and not regret it.
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palooka wrote:I learned that I could resist the marketing departments and boxing hype and not spend an extra 17 quid PPV charge and not regret it.
Yes x2
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Post by rd350lc »

I learned that I should not get excited and not look forward to any forthcoming bills , as they always dissapoint
and I bet Warrens card next week falls into the same catagery .
Personally I think AJ looks a million dollars and has a great personallity to go with it and was the highlight of what was otherwise a real letdown .
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Post by ShadrachSimmo »

We learned nothing we didn't already know. No shock winners. Nothing new.

Next.
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Post by Cholo_cws »

Going by people's reaction to the card, for me we were reminded that "independent" ratings need to be taken seriously and somehow feature prominently in the sport to counter the marketing men's justifying of an opponent being worthy because he's either unbeaten, managed to go the distance with somebody deemed quite good, fought for a crappy alphabet trinket, never been stopped etc etc. Much of the media seem to lazily follow suit.
I didn't watch yesterday but I bet Sky flashed up their various world ratings featuring the likes of DeGale, Groves, Quigg, McDonnell etc but made no mention of where they felt their opponents on the night would be ranked. They wouldn't dare.
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Cholo_cws wrote:Going by people's reaction to the card, for me we were reminded that "independent" ratings need to be taken seriously and somehow feature prominently in the sport to counter the marketing men's justifying of an opponent being worthy because he's either unbeaten, managed to go the distance with somebody deemed quite good, fought for a crappy alphabet trinket, never been stopped etc etc. Much of the media seem to lazily follow suit.
I didn't watch yesterday but I bet Sky flashed up their various world ratings featuring the likes of DeGale, Groves, Quigg, McDonnell etc but made no mention of where they felt their opponents on the night would be ranked. They wouldn't dare.
The list wouldn't fit on the screen if they showed the rankings of the opponents.
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expe wrote:
Cholo_cws wrote:Going by people's reaction to the card, for me we were reminded that "independent" ratings need to be taken seriously and somehow feature prominently in the sport to counter the marketing men's justifying of an opponent being worthy because he's either unbeaten, managed to go the distance with somebody deemed quite good, fought for a crappy alphabet trinket, never been stopped etc etc. Much of the media seem to lazily follow suit.
I didn't watch yesterday but I bet Sky flashed up their various world ratings featuring the likes of DeGale, Groves, Quigg, McDonnell etc but made no mention of where they felt their opponents on the night would be ranked. They wouldn't dare.
The list wouldn't fit on the screen if they showed the rankings of the opponents.
Ha ha, very true.
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Post by Rexob »

It was a good production though remember that :-?
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