Am I the only person not sold on Anthony Joshua???

[coneye]

I'm not sold on him either ,Its easy to look good against hand picked opponents . I would put him on a par with fury , not to sure who would win that one , Fury's hands seem to be just has quick and he's a big guy .Ok he's had more pro fights ,but Joshua has the better ameteur career .

Price would be a good test , would'nt mind seeing Joshua in with Big Daddy , he would do a job on him but i suspect he'll get tagged which will answer questions about the chin .

[Boxerbeetle]

No way would Williams ever get licensed in Britain again at this stage of his career.

I know that he's had a poor run of results recently, but he's still a recognised "name" in Birtish boxing circles.

Not sure if you're joking here mate? Williams is absolutely shot to bits, he can't be allowed anywhere near Joshua, it would end very badly indeed.

[Crease]

Not sure if you're joking here mate? Williams is absolutely shot to bits, he can't be allowed anywhere near Joshua, it would end very badly indeed.

No I wasn't. I haven't seen any of his fights recently... Is he really that gone?

[Boxerbeetle]

Not sure if you're joking here mate? Williams is absolutely shot to bits, he can't be allowed anywhere near Joshua, it would end very badly indeed.

No I wasn't. I haven't seen any of his fights recently... Is he really that gone?

Yes mate, he's completely & utterly gone. There was a thread created a few weeks ago calling for him to be banned, have a read through it:

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=186331

[Karl Jade]

Nearly 5 years ago a novice Chisora took Danny apart in less than 2 rounds. Danny shouldn't be allowed into the same arena as AJ.

[Rexob]

F Joshua kimbo'S coming.

[broomy7s]

I am sold on him. I don't see 1 punch power but I have seen enough and heard enough from the likes of Klitschko to believe he will go far. He showed a good chin in the amateurs but he also showed he could be tagged. I was on the Price hype train tho so I wouldn't trust my knowledge.

I am really happy with his next fight as it should hopefully give us a chance to see if he can keep a cool head and maybe a stamina check if he keeps a good steady pace altho I accept you don't have to throw too much to beat the kingpin.

[davie]

Im not saying he hasnt looked impressive or that he isnt being moved on fast enough, and I hope he does have the potential to go on a be a dominant force at HW.

However he is massively over hyped at the moment - the general public seem to be brainwashed into believing this guy could step in the ring tomorrow with guys like chisora, fury, wlad, haye, and blow them away.

Price was blowing away this level of opposition too.

The facts remain -
1. We haven't seen his chin tested
2. We haven't seen his stamina tested
3. We haven't seen if he is durable
4. He hasn't shown 1 punch KO power
5. His defense doesn't look amazing yet

Those questions need to be answered before heralding him the next great HW champion of our era.

Also he has this huge, and i do wonder if its partially manufactured, persona being built that he's some really down to earth nice guy. Yet i'm seeing the posts he puts up on facebook which are thinly veiled advertising posts disguised as day to day spur of the moment pictures e.g.

This post clearly advertising FCUK fear, posted as "Great to capture these moments before fight night! The calm before the storm, thank you #StayHungry"


Its also well documented he was asking for huge money for his signature to turn pro (which to be fair is expected).

Im just not buying all the propaganda yet.

I've been saying for a while, he reminds me of big Frank Bruno and just like Frank i get the niggling feeling Anthony might just come undone at genuine world level.
His one saving grace may be that, with the Klitschkos likely to be retired before he challenges for a belt, there is no-one like tyson or lewis waiting at world level for him as there was for Frank

I'd also concur that the hype surrounding him just now is reminiscent of the David Price hype prior to him being found out.
I sincerely hope i'm wrong, but like Price he has not been tested in any way.

People say he need a durable opponent to take him rounds but they still suggest 6'1" punchbags with slightly thicker skulls who will go in there and take a sustained beating for a few more rounds.
What Joshua need is to fight someone his own size, who will give him a whack or 2 and give him something to think about in there so when he does arrive at world level he is better prepared than someone like wilder.

[Benelio]

And he would probably get a shot at the Commonwealth Heavyweight Title against Browne after another 4/5 British-level demolition jobs.

I'd love to see him in with Browne - a genuine durable and ambitious guy who is a close match to his size.

[Controversial]

He has all the attributes to be a force in the division, good amateur background, height, size, long reach, good jab, in good shape and only 25 but like the OP I'm reluctant to buy into the next greatest HW train of thought. They are brining him along quite nicely but until he beats a true "live" opponent and his chin and stamina have been tested he's only a prospect at this stage.

[Tuan_Jim]

I like the way he lets his hands go but he hasn't been tested, pressed or punched back, which makes the hype seem absurd. I'm utterly amazed by how time and again boxing fans buy in to a brand new prospect completely, despite how many chins have been revealed to be thin porcelain.

[Chambers2]

There are obviously still questions to be answered on him (as there are with all prospects), but he looks better than any HW prospect I've seen in a long long time!!

The worlds his oyster if he heeps his level-headed approach to the game

[jamesmcdonnell]

I'd say get excited about this fighter!!!
When was the last time you saw a heavyweight pin somebody like that & show accuracy & raw strength! Roy jones used to do that & there's not been since who could! I was very impressed

Deontay wilders doing exactly the same, yet he's still taking a lot of stick for being untested.

Wilder is 29 years old, has been a pro for 6 years, and is 32 - 0.

Go compare that to Joshua.

[hurlock]

I'd say get excited about this fighter!!!
When was the last time you saw a heavyweight pin somebody like that & show accuracy & raw strength! Roy jones used to do that & there's not been since who could! I was very impressed

Deontay wilders doing exactly the same, yet he's still taking a lot of stick for being untested.

Wilder is 29 years old, has been a pro for 6 years, and is 32 - 0.

Go compare that to Joshua.

Exactly! & I'd say wilder is a looping banger & doesn't have the same beast steength

[jamesmcdonnell]

Exactly! & I'd say wilder is a looping banger & doesn't have the same beast steength[/quote]

Wilder looks shite to me - poor balance, telegraphs his shots, and throws them in wide arcs. If he ever does step up, he'll get beat.

[Bricks]

Would he beat a Tony Thompson right now that's what u should be asking yourselves. I don't think he has the arseholle in his work to beat Thompson right now.he needs to step up and Johnson is that.right now fury takes him.I suspect his chin may be an archilles heel and a lack of foot speed but given the quality in the hw division these days no one's gonna test that

[lillywhite14]

He needs seasoning. I don't doubt his toughness though, he stood and traded in the world champs final in a humdinger and from what I see against Whyte in that loss, he was standing, trading and roughing it out against a more experienced guy that night.

He looks as good a prospect in the heavies as there has been for 15 or so years ( at this stage in his career ) so far but still plenty of questions left to be answered ( chin, stamina, trainer? Etc )

I'm sure we will all enjoy watching it all unfold

[jamesohara95]

Just on Joshua, can anyone answer my question of why the Joshua vs sprott fight was a defence of Joshua's WBC International title up until 4 days before the bout, and weather the Johnson fight is likely to be a defence of this belt?

Thank you

[GooalaShooola]

I won't comment on his boxing because everything has already been said during this thread but I'm not sure about having a 'manufactured' personality - it's the same one he had during the Olympics. Isn't it possible to just be a decent bloke? You're a cynical lot.

[cold187]

joshua needs to start boxing people of some significance.

Even the likes of
mark de mori wba ranked
travis kaufmann - ibf and wba ranked
rekowski
Rudenko - hard as nails, good record
andrey fedosov
Gerber - ok record
Rossy - good gatekeeper
Gjerjaj - undefeated good record
Johann duhaupas - good record
Kali meehan - good profile and good form

all these fights are of some "significance". some are ranked, undefeated, good records

beating sprott teaches nothings and tells no one anything, the above guys it does.

[jeej]

For the amount of fights he's had so far, I like what I've seen. There's always gonna be a lot of hype around anyone who's done the business for GB at the Olympics, pretty much unavoidable.

Naturally I'd like to see a step up in opposition now. That's the only way to truly tell. And as others have said, we need to see him take a few whacks on the chin. I certainly haven't seen anything to suggest that he's gonna be a world beater, but at the same time there's also nothing to suggest he wont surpass the likes of Fury. Time will tell, as always.

On the note of his social media use and advertising, nothing particularly unusual or insidious about that. Pretty harmless posting a photo of yourself with your sponsors wares. Pays the bills etc.

[lefty]

I remember some people saying he'll be as good Lewis. I dont see that myself. i think Lewis was a better athlete and moved better. However like a lot have said the heavyweight division isnt packed with a ton of talent so he should be ok.

[dookus]

AJ = Big strong bloke who puts his punches together very well. We have absolutely no idea about his chin in the pro ranks or what his defence is like against opponents who are sufficiently un-intimidated to properly think about what they're doing. So I'm reserving my opinion till then.

[Rexob]

AJ = Big strong bloke who puts his punches together very well. We have absolutely no idea about his chin in the pro ranks or what his defence is like against opponents who are sufficiently un-intimidated to properly think about what they're doing. So I'm reserving my opinion till then.

Can't wait.

[Finn]

Just watched an interview on soccer AM with AJ here http://youtu.be/FKIthHNmZ74

Joshua came across very well, its interesting because Tyson Fury apparently called him out and said he would KO him in 3 rounds, and they asked AJ about it.

He says in the interview he disagrees that he would only last 3 rounds, but he's not really experienced enough to fight fury.

He then gets asked if he will fight him further down the line to which he replies "yeah, and ill knock him out".