JamieM wrote:Ronnie fights you judge by his face, he marks even talking of being
Punched, he marks up badly for fights, he has black eyes his whole camp, which suggests evans was not landing shots, daz ronnie will be himself and say nothing, he knows what boxing is all about now, all of the above mentioned work for warren so you clearly
Know nothing, all on the payroll,
Simpson won both them fights for me. He started really slow in both and was even rocked early on in the second one I think it was but still thought he done enough both times. As for Ronnie v Evans, most people know I am very much team Clark but this is the first time I have posted about the fight as I haven't saw it yet so I can't have opinion until I see it. I thought Troy nicked the last fight and the fight with Walsh could have went either way. All Everyone can take from it is once again 4 times now Ronnie goes on the road and boxes prospects. We need more of these fights. And fair play to him, great attitude from a cracking guy.billy nelson wrote:Talk of payroll is nonsense, Ronnies coach told me it was a poor decision but I've also heard Evans won handily so it's a case of interpretations, I've also been involved with what I thought was a poor decision with john Simpson v Stephen Smith were john IMO won that fight by 2/3 rounds and we got a draw lost by one point and lost by an incredible five points
Only a couple of minutes of Williams to show with 35-40 minutes left, if they've already shown Costello we might get the full fight, should get most of it.handsofstone wrote:Looks like we're getting at least some of Ronnies fight with Evans
Williams blasted out Lomax in a round so hopefully we'll get the lot,but i doubt it
I'd hardly say most have been arguing. Like I said, Ronnie's camp started the thread, people read it and some agreed he had been hard done by in the past. Someone else posted that others had it the other way.DazDiCanio wrote:Arguing the fact when they haven't even seen the fight! What part of that don't you find effing stupid?freddydoesdallas wrote:The majority of people in this thread have done that. They have listened to the views of the camp from in here, looked at reports elsewhere and then most have said they want to see the fight to score it for themselves. There isn't much more that can be done with regards to this fight except take the word of one corner or the opposite view.DazDiCanio wrote:I'm with Jamie here, too many people just take the word of popular 'boxing' people as gospel. Do a bit of research, get clued up and make your own mind up, that goes for anything.
Far too many media people with agendas that prevent them from ever giving an unbiased view.
Nah i didnt see a low blow,Ronnie did catch him with a solid right hand just before the ref called break,either the right to the face on the break hurt Evans but he signalled a low blow,i didnt see one,maybe just looking for a breathersemtexreilly wrote:Watched the 10th round a good few times now, still not saw the low blow,or do I need to go to specsavers ??
The point was taken off for Ronnie shoving his head into Evans face, deliberate or not, it was blatant and as they showed a couple of examples off it, looked like a clear point deduction IMO.JamieM wrote:You watched it last night? Anyone with half a brain seen evans was shattered And was tying ronnie up, the point he got took off evans used both hands around ronnies shoulders and pulled him in towards him, scottish Mafia? By having an opinion that word is used, wow your so thick it's unreal, ok mate ronnie lost all his fights down england;)
They have a fight. The issue comes when a southpaw meets an orthodox fighter, the feet get tangled and the heads come together a lot, but two southpaws is no different to two orthodox fighters. And the point came off for Ronnie pushing his head into Evans face, no clash of heads there, just a clear headbutt. Yes, it is ok for the referee to push a fighter back, he was doing it to create some space between the fighters after calling break, couldn't do it to Evans because he was by the ropes. You are moaning, calling the decision a disgrace and saying Clark was robbed is moaning in my book. And he was fighting a Welshman, nothing to do with being in England, he obviously didn't do enough to win.JamieM wrote:One question? What happens when two southpaws meet? Also is it ok for a referee to be pushing one fighter? Does that sap energy? U seen even in 9 and 10 they are clean breaks And he's still putting his hands on ronnie and little shove back, fact is we need to see full 10 rounds , there's no moaning as ronnie said himself he's gonna need to start stopping them In England as he kndw he won't get a decision down there, he'll learn from it and come back stronger
I was talking about you a group, there have been a lot of complaints about the decision. Do you get messy fights with two orthodox fighters? Southpaw-orthodox is what causes messy fights, not southpaw-southpaw. The referee has to create distance between the fighters after breaking them up to allow the fight to flow a bit without them immediately getting tied up again, preferably in the centre of the ring, if he'd pushed Evans back he'd have shoved him into the ropes. And you make out like it was a forceful two handed push, he eased him backwards with the back of his hand. Evans was fighting 3-4 hours from home, in another country, on a £100+ a ticket dinner show, he wasn't at home and he certainly didn't have any partisan support in there, it was a charity dinner show. Evans is not a top prospect or star, if he lost I doubt Warren would be that worried. Ronnie fights on the road because the money isn't there to bring anyone up to Scotland to fight him.JamieM wrote:Iv called it a robbery? Never once did I say that, I said the scorecards were a joke but never once stated who should have won, also two southpaws meet you get a
Messy fight, known fact, so cause ronnie was the aggressor he is being pushed around from the referee, ok haha, evans is the home fighter and majority of fights are in England, his promotor organised the show, doesn't mstter he's from Wales, ronnie always fights on rival promotor shows cause he's not one of these so called prospects, he doesn't care who he fights, maxi hughes rematch, was supposed to happen but they refused to come up here yet feel the need to call him out, why don't a few of them come up here, boxing needs more fighters like ronnie who is willing
To test himself
The issue with Cortez in the Hatton-Mayweather fight was that he wouldn't let Hatton work on the inside and blamed the holding on Hatton when it was Mayweather. Being pushed back only saps energy if you try and resist it, if the referee goes to push him back, it's a sign he wants him to move back, so take a step backwards then go to work again. Evans was in the home corner, but I still wouldn't call that fighting at home and it isn't going to influence a referee to score a fight that supposedly should have gone to Clark by 5 points to Evans, being in the home corner doesn't cause a swing like that. If Maxi was getting what Ronnie would have got to fight in England, have you not thought that Maxi would then be getting less money to fight on the road than he would at home, same for Walsh. It's risk reward, if the money's right for the fight, they'll travel. And there's too many factors involved to have guidelines on what should be paid, I doubt anyone pays much attention to the board guidelines, although I would be interested in seeing them.JamieM wrote:Referee pushing the fighter saps energy, fact, was well
Publicised when hatton fought mayweather, it shouldn't be happening, being a home fighter is nothig to do with fans, he was fighting on his promotors show in the home corner, Davie Mcallister offered maxi the same a what ronnie would be paid to fight down there, as was the Ryan walsh rematch offer, they go on board guidelines to what should be paid for Certain distance fights, don't try and make it out
It's anything but refusing to fight up here, as they arnt willing to take risks, what experience have you got of promotion and offering of fights? Not being cheeky just interested as you seem to think it's clear cut money
What are the guidelines then, be interesting to see what the purses are like.JamieM wrote:Your wrong, most promotors go by the guidlines, only big matchroom and allegedly shows dont
