Gradovich v Velez who won?

[kidbazooka1]

Hbo crew have been nothing but cheerleaders the last few yrs I thought the fight was really close but they would only notice the glancing shots from Evgeny yet ignore the hard flush shots of Velez.

What do you guys think?

[Ian1973]

Gradovich won quite clearly.

[crusader]

117-111 Gradovich

I thought Gradovich won clearly and I watched without sound. Velez started well, but he increasingly began to trade after the third and I thought his punches significantly lost their snap as the bout unfolded while Gradovich's didn't. I thought Gradovich bossed the majority of rounds, landed more, and landed the better shots. Velez fought hard but I think he was very fortunate to leave the ring without a loss.

[kidbazooka1]

No doubt Evgeny looked the stronger fighter in the mid and later RDs but I thought alotta of shots were glancing shots while Velez landed the crisper cleaner shots.

Also his bodywork was I believe given more credit by that judge than the hbo crew.

Not saying I thought velez won convincingly but I also don't think it was a clear dominant win for gradovich either.

[diddy]

Gradovich. He stinks tho.

[crusader]

No doubt Evgeny looked the stronger fighter in the mid and later RDs but I thought alotta of shots were glancing shots while Velez landed the crisper cleaner shots.

Also his bodywork was I believe given more credit by that judge than the hbo crew.

Not saying I thought velez won convincingly but I also don't think it was a clear dominant win for gradovich either.

I thought Gradovich was landing more cleanly from the third on. He also rattled Velez's head with several shots but I didn't notice Velez do the same, at least to the same extent, which I think had to due with him tiring and losing the snap on his punches more than Gradovich.

[Blodhemn]

Mex Russian. Velez got beaten up. Only way to win in America is by KO.

[Boxing Prospect]

Gradovich clearly. The closest I could make it was 7-5 to Gradovich (giving him the 4th and 12th) though that would be generous. 9-3 Gradovich.

[Jack 1000]

Gradovich clearly. The closest I could make it was 7-5 to Gradovich (giving him the 4th and 12th) though that would be generous. 9-3 Gradovich.

117-111 for Gradocich. Best I could see is 116-112.

Jack

[lefty]

Both are shite I think.

[Woldemar]

Gradovich win this fight.

[Tarkus]

Gradovich won wide. Scorecards were a treachery.

[Boxing Writer]

Gradovich. But he has no chance against Lomachenko or Walters

[Badhusker]

I thought Velez started well, being up 4-1 early by easily out-boxing Gradovich. After the 4th Gradovich took over. I wouldn't call it an overly dominant win but he definitely won, probably 8-4. Robert Garcia thought they won every round but that was far from the case. Credit to Velez for being game. Some judges prefer boxers, some punchers I guess.

[ikorolev]

A clear win for Gradovich, at least 116-112. The judges gifted a draw to a Puerto Rican, so if Evgeny's opponent was an American, he would have gotten a win, the same way as Algieri got it against Provo. What a disgrace

[HyacinthusTurnipseed]

Seemed a pretty clear decision for Gradovich for me as well. Can't see him doing well against Lomachenko, Walters or even Donaire or Mares, but I think he could give a real fight to Jhonny Gonzales at least. The proposed Lee Selby fight is an intriguing clash of styles.

[ikorolev]

Lomachenko and Walters will easilly handle Gradovich (in different manner), but I am not sure about the rest. He could beat Donaire, Mares and Gonzalez.

In any case, even if he wasn't a top 10 fighter, it should not matter when determining an outcome of this particular fight.

[handsofstone]

I had it same as first judge,117-111 Grodovich but it was nip and tuck all the way and a lot of the rounds were tough as eff to score,Velez was brave as hell and gave as good as he got,i just thought Evgeny was landing the more hurtful punches

[ikorolev]

He was landing more punches, more power punches and was an aggressor. How the hell could one score a win for Velez ?

[PinoyProdigy95]

118-110 Gradovich, closest I could see it is 116-112 for the Mexican-Russian. Velez was lucky two judges were blind.

[ikorolev]

They couldn't be THAT blind. Something much worse was going on.

[jujigatame]

Gradovich won, I had it 116-112. Maybe you could come up with a reasonable 114-114 card if you really tried but the card for Velez was absurd.