Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Tyson Fury vs Wladimir Klitschko

Poll ended at 30 Dec 2015, 15:16

Fury by decision
4
4%
Fury by KO/TKO
12
12%
Klitschko by decision
13
13%
Klitschko by KO/TKO
69
68%
evenly matched, difficult to predict
4
4%
 
Total votes: 102

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Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by Freedom2013 »

This fight will very likely happen in 2015.

What's your prediction?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by SAPFO »

The build but will be more entertaining.

"Fury, I have pizza face for you"

"I don't feckin like pizza you big stiff idiot"
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by hurricanemitch14 »

wlad will manhandle fury.......chisora got dominated and kod by 210lb haye........fury is a tough heavy and has skills but he a whole level or 2 below wlad
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by HomicideHenry »

Fury is to have another contest in February. Tune up's and all, is key to Fury's success.

My question, really, is who would that man be--- as the Fury-Klitschko contest will more than likely happen in September. Klitschko has the option, apparently, of facing a non-mandatory between now and then, so its possible he will go after Stiverne or Wilder. Though I don't believe that will happen either.

Fury has demonstrated enough in my mind, that he has enough of everything, to be dangerous for Vladimir. He may not hit as hard, but he is a power hitter none the less. He may not be as good a tactician, but he's clearly the second best in the world at doing so. He may not be the best brawler, but he can dig down deep--- rise off the canvas if need be--- and he can fight backing up. Klitschko has always had to either stay in the middle of the ring, or he's had to press forward--- he doesn't like fighting backwards. Fury has the same reach, and he's slightly taller and heavier than the world champion. He's also a decade younger.

This often times is a sport of wills, rather than skills. Fury may have a burning desire, more so than Vladimir at this stage of his career--- and that could make alot of difference in a potential fight. The odds, in my view, are 60/40 in favor of Klitschko--- but if any man, currently in the world, has the all-around ability to present a myriad of issues and challenges to Vladimir, then Fury is indeed that man. He's a giant who can use lateral movement, has a good jab, can switch from orthodox to southpaw, is willing to trade punches, uses his size very well (alot better than Vladimir can in my opinion), and can fight off the ropes and on retreat.

Klitschko, for the most part, has mainly faced boxers or punchers--- but never a man who can do both. Those who made attempts at one or the other (Pulev changed his style, for instance) generally were outclassed, embarassed or knocked out. I don't know if Klitschko can necessarily do that with Fury--- and if he can, it wont come easy. I have to roll this one over in my head over the next few months, to visualize the match in my mind. I generally am spot on when it comes to heavyweight fights, so we will see.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by cjdragon »

I just don't think Fury will prepare for the World Heavyweight Championship as seriously as Wlad does for every single one of his fights. And he may even taunt Wlad in the first round and joke around before tasting Wlad's power and getting flattened.

I'm thinking Klitschko KO's Fury fairly early in the fight.
Can't wait to see it though :)
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by Horse »

HomicideHenry wrote:Fury is to have another contest in February. Tune up's and all, is key to Fury's success.

My question, really, is who would that man be--- as the Fury-Klitschko contest will more than likely happen in September. Klitschko has the option, apparently, of facing a non-mandatory between now and then, so its possible he will go after Stiverne or Wilder. Though I don't believe that will happen either.
Ustinov would be the obvious choice.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by man »

still think fury will be taken out by the far
superior man. chisora is maybe just past
it and his close fight against vitali rather
showed the latter's age than derek's talent.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by northern »

Wladimir by decision or if he come in on form a TKO before the final rounds.

Chisora, I don't like saying this but I think he is a gatekeeper for the world titles now, if Top British/European talent can get by him and do it well, they are ready for world level competition.

Fury, has the attributes to be a champion, the reach, the aggression, the attitude, the polarising antics, and the ability as we've seen recently but right now.. if its against Wladimir I don't think he'll be world champion yet.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by Finch »

If Wladamir has signed a deal with a US TV network, then does it make sense for any Fury tune up to be against a big name yank?
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by palooka »

Wlad hits too hard with both hands and has a very good jab - he's also dealt with some very good boxers in style before. Because Tyson is very tall and rangy does not mean squat v Wlad who seems to be getting better with age and experience. I imagine Tyson Fury would beat many in the division but not Wlad; Povetkin would be a good bout and so would Stiverne.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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Wlad knock him out.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by MachoTime »

What makes this a interesting fight is that Wlad will be fighting someone that is actually taller than him. Then again Fury would have to step up to the challenge. I would favor Wlad. But I would certainly like to see Fury give it a try.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by dominik »

I think wlad will KO him. fury has actually solid handspeed for his size and has improved his skills but he is still very easy to hit. wlad might struggle a little because of fury's height and reach advantage but wlad can unload big swings at him.

fury also while not a slapper doesn't really posses a lot of one punch KO power so that is not that big of a danger for wlad.

I can see wlad struggle a little with fury's height though because he is not used to fight taller punchers. also leaning on and holding won't work against fury because fury is taller and heavier and a pushing match might wear wlad out. I think that might lead to wlad being more aggressive and going for the early KO.

but this is definitely an interesting match, I think that fury, wilder and joshua are the most interesting matches for wlad at that point (I don't think the AJ fight will happen unless wlad shows majors signs of decline- they will just wait for wlad to retire).
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by SenorPipino »

Fury looked good last night but against what?
At best, Chisora has always been nothing more than a fringe contender. Doesn't have the skills to upend the elite.

Fury is far from elite, though.
He would taste Wlad's jab from the start and get nailed with any right that the champion throws. Defense is not Fury's forte.
It's just a matter of how much of a pounding the big Brit can take. Can't forget him tasting the canvas courtesy of little Steve Cunningham.
If the cruiser can put him down hard, then you have to assume that Wlad puts him down and keeps him down.

Klitschko wins in a cakewalk by 6th round KO.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by Horse »

SenorPipino wrote:Fury looked good last night but against what?
At best, Chisora has always been nothing more than a fringe contender.
Which heavyweights are better than fringe contenders?
SenorPipino wrote:If the cruiser can put him down hard, then you have to assume that Wlad puts him down and keeps him down.
No, we don't have to assume that.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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I don't see it as a complete mismatch. With a longer reach and decent boxing skills, I think Fury will give Wlad some adversity.

That being said, I think Wlad will win.
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Post by dominik »

SenorPipino wrote:Fury looked good last night but against what?
At best, Chisora has always been nothing more than a fringe contender. Doesn't have the skills to upend the elite.

Fury is far from elite, though.
He would taste Wlad's jab from the start and get nailed with any right that the champion throws. Defense is not Fury's forte.
It's just a matter of how much of a pounding the big Brit can take. Can't forget him tasting the canvas courtesy of little Steve Cunningham.
If the cruiser can put him down hard, then you have to assume that Wlad puts him down and keeps him down.

Klitschko wins in a cakewalk by 6th round KO.
but fury has longer arms than wlad, so wlad could not easily outjab him. fury is also not super fast but he has decent speed for his height. A jabbing contest won't be easy for wlad, he will have to use his legs to get inside and then out again which is not his usual game. clinching and pushing also won't work against a guy that is 3 inches taller and 20 pounds heavier.

fury is of course easy to hit and wlad might KO him badly but at least wladimir will need to adjust his style and fight differently.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by cjdragon »

Freedom2013 wrote:I don't see it as a complete mismatch. With a longer reach and decent boxing skills, I think Fury will give Wlad some adversity.

That being said, I think Wlad will win.
Yeah I think Fury will give Wlad a couple of iffy moments, sneak in a good shot or two...but Fury is going to get drilled and KO'd.

I wonder what one punch from Wlad flattens Fury...the left hook or the straight right. :)
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by SenorPipino »

Horse wrote:
SenorPipino wrote:Fury looked good last night but against what?
At best, Chisora has always been nothing more than a fringe contender.
Which heavyweights are better than fringe contenders?
SenorPipino wrote:If the cruiser can put him down hard, then you have to assume that Wlad puts him down and keeps him down.
No, we don't have to assume that.
You might have apoint there since I always proclaim that the heavyweight division is made up of meaningless flotsam and jetsom.
But people have take fighters such as Pulev, Haye and Povetkin as legit threats to the champ.
They're all head and shoulders above Chisora who is a competent fighter but hardly true top 10 material.

And you don't have to assume it, but closing your eyes to reality won't change anything. The chin of the Brit may be a bit brittle.
When Wlad connects on him, London Bridge is falling down.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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As of this writing... I don't know how many reasonable threats there are to Klitschko... the four most obvious are Stiverne, Wilder, Fury and Povetkin... the rest of the field, you may as well say are hand picked dead men... these are the one and only "live dogs" in the bunch.

Wilder, for all his power, has not really proven what he can or cannot do against a real experienced, tough fighter. What he has demonstrated is having a fairly soft chin, and that he only likes to come forward... his conditioning and stamina is in question... in fact, what do we really know of Wilder, other than he looks great against C level opponents?

Stiverne, outside of Arreola, hasn't really been much of a figure in the division. He has very fast hands, he is calm and collective, has a damn good punch--- but--- he may be a tad too small for Klitschko... He's to face the unbeaten giant Wilder in two months... and one has to wonder, can he do a repeat and knock out a bigger, stronger man?... and even if he can, at 36 years of age one must wonder how much longer will he pose a threat?

Then again, that brings up Povetkin... he's same size as Stiverne and one can make an argument that he's the only man in recent years who gave Klitschko something of a test... (the old argument is "Hey, he was willing and tried")

So that leaves Fury... young, unbeaten, has proved himself far more than Wilder has, is taller and bigger than Klitschko, and can both box and slug it out... not to mention he can switch stances and boxes wonderfully in both... for all the criticisms out there about him when one really looks at the rest of the field, who can not say that Fury poses the best chance? I think it goes without saying, as young as he is and improving all the time, that even if he couldnt beat Klitschko, its a lock that he would be heavyweight champion one day.

BTW @ SenorPipino.... Is it just me, or doesn't Fury actually look better in the ring against taller/heavier opponents, than he does lighter/smaller ones?... Chisora was 240+ pounds, as was Kevin Johnson... Cunningham was 210 pounds, but the knockdown (imho) didn't really hurt Fury, though it clearly embarassed the big man... it seems men who are 230+ pounds (in past Fury fights) didnt go as long, and were outclassed or kayoed rather easily... but under that mark, they lasted the scheduled distance and actually gave Fury something of a workout. Maybe I am off base.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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This is going to be an absolute drubbing. Raping. Pillaging. Pick an adjective.

Wlad is too powerful and way way too technically sound for Fury, who has amateur technique.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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I picked Wlad by KO. As I've said before, when Wlad's opponent is too big to be dominated by the jab, that's when Puncher Wlad comes out, and Puncher Wlad would steamroll Fury. Just look at how Wlad KO'd Ray Austin, Tony Thompson twice, Pulev, and the brutal pounding he put on Wach that would've stopped a weaker-chinned fighter like Fury in 6-7.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by Ian1973 »

For someone who a lot of forumites think isn't that great it's amazing how when any fight comes around Wladimir is expected to comprehensibly beat his opponent.

I was very impressed with Fury on Saturday night I thought his boxing was quality. Will he beat Wladimir? I don't think so, even if Fury's jab does keep Wlad at range for a round or two, Wlad is way too good to not be able to land at some point and he hits bloody hard. When he lands on Fury I really don't think he'll get up.
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

Post by cjdragon »

I still can't get over that left hook from Klitshcko that KO'd Pulev.
Wlad actually leaped into it a bit but kept it compact as well...brutal punching power. Definitely the heavyweight KO of the year.
(sorry, I'm watching that match again) :)
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Re: Tyson Fury vs. Wladimir Klitschko

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Wlad by KO within 4.
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