Boxing News editor doesn't need to know ote about boxing!

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not sure what is going on. like many people on here boxing news has been the bible for boxing for as long as i can remember. for me it was harry mullan, then claude and now tris and all were boxing experts who obviously lived and breathed the sport. but now they are advertising for a new editor and the advert says that the applicant doesn't even need to know anything about boxing or even have an interest in it. what a sad day... in fact a sad year with glyn going too early and now this. shocking really.
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Boxing News or Boxing Monthly?
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Post by blanca »

Seems its BN...just spotted an ad for the job on journalism website..hes only been ed for a few yearz..
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Not always the worst idea to get an outsiders view to see a new perspective. The writers/contributors are the ones who need the knowledge, the editor can provide direction for the magazine as a whole
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freddydoesdallas wrote:Not always the worst idea to get an outsiders view to see a new perspective. The writers/contributors are the ones who need the knowledge, the editor can provide direction for the magazine as a whole
Sorry mate, I can't agree with that. Especially as the editor will actually have to write and make decisions about boxing related matters.

BN is a fan and trade paper and need a boxing head as editor.

Doe that mean Tris is leaving?
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Post by milpool »

Surely Matt Christie will step up?
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Just occured to me - could Tris be taking over at BM instead?
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I thought Danny Flexen would want to step up. He used to be Editor of fighting fit magazine didn't he? and has been doing more and more of late at bn.
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Is Oliver Fenell still in the game? I thought he writes well. He posts here sometimes too
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broomy7s wrote:I thought Danny Flexen would want to step up. He used to be Editor of fighting fit magazine didn't he? and has been doing more and more of late at bn.
If he gets the job then the magazine is fucked.

The only person for the job if filled internal would be Matt.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
broomy7s wrote:I thought Danny Flexen would want to step up. He used to be Editor of fighting fit magazine didn't he? and has been doing more and more of late at bn.
If he gets the job then the magazine is fucked.

The only person for the job if filled internal would be Matt.
Why that ?
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reggaereggae wrote:
freddydoesdallas wrote:Not always the worst idea to get an outsiders view to see a new perspective. The writers/contributors are the ones who need the knowledge, the editor can provide direction for the magazine as a whole
Sorry mate, I can't agree with that. Especially as the editor will actually have to write and make decisions about boxing related matters.

BN is a fan and trade paper and need a boxing head as editor.

Doe that mean Tris is leaving?
I'm not saying it's ideal from a fans view but might help the business side (if that's what they need) with efficiencies or new advertising streams.

The writers provide expertise on the industry. I doubt every magazine with a sector focus is closed to sector experts. It reduces the opportunity/will to try new things
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Post by el_grande_mauro_mina »

There is a man for the job and it is our Oliver Fennell. :TU:

Go and stake your claim my man!

I have read enough boxing publications for around the world and Ollie is as qualified as anyone.
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I agree with the OP, the Boxing News and we, the readers, deserve someone at the helm who has an interest in boxing and in the issues that animate us. Having a top class editor who knows nothing of boxing (maybe the editor of Tatler) may well do a good job but the ethos of the magazine would surely be altered. There are posters on here that would do an excellent job.
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slapbangwhallop wrote:
broomy7s wrote:I thought Danny Flexen would want to step up. He used to be Editor of fighting fit magazine didn't he? and has been doing more and more of late at bn.
If he gets the job then the magazine is fucked.

The only person for the job if filled internal would be Matt.
Love you too, buddy.
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:OhYes:
dbflex wrote:
slapbangwhallop wrote:
broomy7s wrote:I thought Danny Flexen would want to step up. He used to be Editor of fighting fit magazine didn't he? and has been doing more and more of late at bn.
If he gets the job then the magazine is fucked.

The only person for the job if filled internal would be Matt.
Love you too, buddy.
:lol:
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There's a mighty high attrition rate on nearly all weekly magazines...the work and deadlines just never stop coming and alot of journalists, once they're established, opt to go freelance just to get some kind of life back. I still work with a few weekly titles and tough, young journos who you think are made of Teflon can become old pretty quickly...it is a tough trade.

Boxing News - to its credit - is still trying to cover the UK and international scene with a very small, full-time editorial staff and I doubt they can afford to have a legion of freelancers to relieve the strain. So basically, you are busy 24/7 and as a news-driven title competing with the on-line folk....the option to sit back now and then again just isn't there.

And if you are the editor it is more than getting the news in and making sure the artwork is lovely.....the publisher will be breathing down your neck about circulation figure targets etc.

One suspects that Tris has done his time and needs to get off a pretty-fast moving, remorseless treadmill.....when Glyn Leach died he wrote some lovely pieces but I also thought there was a hint of tiredness in there as well.

Good luck to Tris and whoever takes on the new job.....they'll need it.
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Bodyshot3 wrote:There's a mighty high attrition rate on nearly all weekly magazines...the work and deadlines just never stop coming and alot of journalists, once they're established, opt to go freelance just to get some kind of life back. I still work with a few weekly titles and tough, young journos who you think are made of Teflon can become old pretty quickly...it is a tough trade.

Boxing News - to its credit - is still trying to cover the UK and international scene with a very small, full-time editorial staff and I doubt they can afford to have a legion of freelancers to relieve the strain. So basically, you are busy 24/7 and as a news-driven title competing with the on-line folk....the option to sit back now and then again just isn't there.

And if you are the editor it is more than getting the news in and making sure the artwork is lovely.....the publisher will be breathing down your neck about circulation figure targets etc.

One suspects that Tris has done his time and needs to get off a pretty-fast moving, remorseless treadmill.....when Glyn Leach died he wrote some lovely pieces but I also thought there was a hint of tiredness in there as well.

Good luck to Tris and whoever takes on the new job.....they'll need it.
Without confirming anything, I must say this is a very intelligent and insightful post.
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Boxing is the greatest sport in the world, no question but we have to face facts. Boxing is no longer the high profile sport it once was and the way in which sport/news is reported has dramatically changed. To be honest i'm surprised Boxing News has taken so long to wake up to this.

Also, with all due respect, whilst everyone on this forum is a super die hard and loyal boxing, many do not understand how much time/work it takes to maintain the highest standards and accurate coverage of such a magazine. Many fans are quick to notice the odd typo or record mistake but how many of you have actually praised boxing journalists for all their dedicated hard work? And lastly, believe when I say that the financial rewards, long hours and constant travelling do not come close making it worthwhile. Any boxing editor will tell you that. The boxing business is a sure fire way of looking and feeling much older before your time.
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Yeah, Bunce is only 25
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palooka wrote:Yeah, Bunce is only 25
Tough paper round :)
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dbflex wrote:
Bodyshot3 wrote:There's a mighty high attrition rate on nearly all weekly magazines...the work and deadlines just never stop coming and alot of journalists, once they're established, opt to go freelance just to get some kind of life back. I still work with a few weekly titles and tough, young journos who you think are made of Teflon can become old pretty quickly...it is a tough trade.

Boxing News - to its credit - is still trying to cover the UK and international scene with a very small, full-time editorial staff and I doubt they can afford to have a legion of freelancers to relieve the strain. So basically, you are busy 24/7 and as a news-driven title competing with the on-line folk....the option to sit back now and then again just isn't there.

And if you are the editor it is more than getting the news in and making sure the artwork is lovely.....the publisher will be breathing down your neck about circulation figure targets etc.

One suspects that Tris has done his time and needs to get off a pretty-fast moving, remorseless treadmill.....when Glyn Leach died he wrote some lovely pieces but I also thought there was a hint of tiredness in there as well.

Good luck to Tris and whoever takes on the new job.....they'll need it.
Without confirming anything, I must say this is a very intelligent and insightful post.
Without confirming anything you might just have confirmed something.
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Lol. This is not the end or even the beginning of the end. It is, however, the end of the beginning.
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I don't suppose, from a young man's perspective, that being a reporter for the BN is all that well paid, especially having to survive in the South East. However, what a great job if you love boxing. All expenses paid trips to Las Vegas to see the best boxers in the world from ringside can't be all bad.

I personally don't believe that the days of people wanting to read the written word has gone. Circulation figures of BN CAN be increased. You just have to reach out a bit further to the older generation who seem to have given up on both boxing and the BN. The magazine is caught between keeping pace with modern social media and pleasing the more traditional punter, and failing on both accounts. Get back to the basics, get the mag out to the gyms perhaps with cheaper subscriptions on a temporary basis.

Good people at the BN , but all of a similar age group. They need a bit of age 'diversity'
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dalcumly wrote:I don't suppose, from a young man's perspective, that being a reporter for the BN is all that well paid, especially having to survive in the South East. However, what a great job if you love boxing. All expenses paid trips to Las Vegas to see the best boxers in the world from ringside can't be all bad.

I personally don't believe that the days of people wanting to read the written word has gone. Circulation figures of BN CAN be increased. You just have to reach out a bit further to the older generation who seem to have given up on both boxing and the BN. The magazine is caught between keeping pace with modern social media and pleasing the more traditional punter, and failing on both accounts. Get back to the basics, get the mag out to the gyms perhaps with cheaper subscriptions on a temporary basis.

Good people at the BN , but all of a similar age group. They need a bit of age 'diversity'
Send em your CV, it can't hurt James :TU:
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