"Krusher" Earns a Whopping 125K Beating Down Hopkins

[ikorolev]

Thus, I think the "oh wow, $__ for only half an hour, he's so lucky' type of lines are exceptionally misleading and depict a far more favorable situation for the boxer than is the case.

Of course he's lucky. There are plenty of guys who put in the same hours as he does, but are less talented, who make $5,000 a fight or less.

lol & I don't see how you don't connect the dots here. He gets paid to fight. He needs to practice to be good in his fights. Anyone in the entertainment field has a similar situation going on no question. Wayne Newton doesn't just sing when he goes on stage. He's practising all year round & doing things to make sure his voice is as good a shape as it can be in. Lebron ain't just playing basketball games on TV. And that goes all the way down to any in a competitive business...again without question. The guy who's not practicing is the guy who's not making as much money as he could or could even be getting put out of business.

He's fortunate that he's getting paid well, but I don't think he's anywhere near as fortunate as he would be if here were being paid the same amount for a 36 minute task not linked to boxing's restrictives economic conditions. With the way some people are wording it, you'd think he could lounge around before the fight, show up, take the money, and not face a damaging, possibly destructive, impact on his career. There are certainly other fighters who put in a lot of time, though I doubt most train like Kovalev, for much smaller rewards, but that doesn't make my points any less valid and if someone were to say' Wow! $5000 for 30 minutes" I'd also think that was generally quite misleading.

Your second paragraph doesn't really impact my argument either, because all you're really saying is that other people's earnings are impacted by their preparation, which is obviously true. My point is that the people who pursue these careers, especially those whose earnings depend on hours per day of preparation, incur great costs and have their economic opportunities limited outside the tasks they're paid for in ways that most people who get paid a standard salary don't. As I've said repeatedly, with someone like Kovalev his earnings are far more contingent on his time outside what he's paid for and he stands to lose a much greater proportion of his income if he doesn't spend a large amount of that time training, which is typically physically and mentally draining. Hence, 'wowowowo $__ for only 36 minutes' is exceptionally misleading in terms of how good of a position he's in.

The guy is arguably in top 10 fighters in the whole boxing business (and was in top 20 before the fight), so he has to earn accordingly. There is no reason to compare him to mediocre boxers, mediocre engineers or people working at McDonalds.

[ReggieDiggs]

The guy is arguably in top 10 fighters in the whole boxing business (and was in top 20 before the fight), so he has to earn accordingly. There is no reason to compare him to mediocre boxers, mediocre engineers or people working at McDonalds.

I don't think it works like that. Guillermo is one of the best boxers in the world right now & he's not earning that much compared to where he ranks skill wise. Its about more than your skill. You need to capture the publics imagination. Arturo Gatti was never a top 20 guy in the world yet he was making a nice chunk of money for his fights cuz the public loved him.

Plus this mfer just owes his manager money it sounds like. So once he's paid back what he owes he'll be getting a better cut of his $500k+ purses. Simple as that.

[ikorolev]

I suspect his manager is getting back more than he lended.

I do allow a possibility of Kovalev just playing poor in his Russian interview. Many people in Russia still prefer to not be considered rich (remnants of communist times).

[ReggieDiggs]

I suspect his manager is getting back more than he lended.

Maybe he added interest too idk. We don't have enough info to really tell all that much with this situation. All in all it probably is a large sum of money, $200,000 if not more imho, is all I know.

[bnovelist]

ALL I KNOW IS THAT KOVALEV'S NAME IS MENTIONED RIGHT UP WITH LIKES OF MAYWEATHER, PAC, COTTO, GGG, FROCH, WLAD, CANELO....

HE IS CLEARLY IN THIS ELITE CLASS THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO TAKE HOME MEASLEY 125K PAYDAYS WTF?????

THIS IS BAD......

[Andrew Kearney]

It's very hard for a European boxer to make it successfully in the USA.

If you look at Wladimir Klitschko, who is super successful, he has made purses more than 20 Million USD (VS Povetkin), 15 Million USD (VS Haye), and that is huge money BUT he made that money fighting in Russia or Germany where there is a bigger market demand for European boxers. Wladimir Klitschko is the 3rd highest paid boxer in boxing and it is interesting that almost all of his fights have taken place in Germany. So my point is, that there is comparatively less demand in the USA for European boxers and because of that, Kovalev's purses are less than say American boxers of a similar level or even Europeans fighting in Europe. Wladimir Klitschko and Alexander Povetkin both make massive amounts of money and they do it by staying in Europe. I think if Kovalev was to base himself in Germany, or Russia, he'd be getting paid more.

Another point is just that in general, there is less money paid to boxers in USA than Germany or England. Yes guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao make big bucks, but the Charlo's, Rosado's, Porter's etc. of American boxing are lucky to make 100K a fight (after taxes and cuts they probably pocket 25 of that). Tyson Fury is a great example who has quoted himself as saying that fighting in the UK he gets paid a lot more than in USA.

[Badhusker]

Believe it or not with my personality at the multiple gyms I frequent I have the hot chicks throwing themselves at me at any given day...

Has everyone else missed this gem from bnovelist?

I was thinking the same thing, then figured most probably have him on ignore, lol.

He is beyond loony.....maybe he is in the loony bin, who knows.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Believe it or not with my personality at the multiple gyms I frequent I have the hot chicks throwing themselves at me at any given day...

Has everyone else missed this gem from bnovelist?

I was thinking the same thing, then figured most probably have him on ignore, lol.

He is beyond loony.....maybe he is in the loony bin, who knows.

Of course ... because sensible guys get all the girls. As weird as some Bnov's posts are, there's nothing to lead me to believe he couldn't get "hot chicks".

Stop hating.

[tiny_acres]

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[BAD INTENTIONS]

This doesn't seem fair, Kovalev should have made at least $1 million from HBO for a unification fight for 3 belts.

HBO paid Andre Ward $1.7 mill to face a fringe contender in his last fight.

Andre Berto used to make well over a million to face journeymen like Freddy Hernandez.

You guys are arguing about sums of money that are virtually unobtainable for the majority of the world's population.

fornicate what any top level boxer/promoter make. They ALL make too much.

[ReggieDiggs]

There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Commission? You mean some sort of points on the event itself? Like actors can get.

Whats his deal on the backend? I wasn't aware he had a backend deal let alone how much he'd get from such a deal.

[ReggieDiggs]

I still don't see the problem here. It sounds like he's paying the same sh!t everyone else is paying (minus some $ he may or may not owe his manager). Floyd & Manny ain't making $20,000,000+ either. They gotta pay their people & taxes too.

This is a lower level version of Floyd calling his multimillion dollar HBO deal a slave contract or whatever he called it. This brother just took home $125,000 & if you took a picture of him out on a NYC or LA street maybe 5% of people would know who the f#ck he is & maybe 20% of that 5% would be able to pronounce his name correctly. Sergey is doing f#cking great & if he keeps winning he'll be doing even better.

[Mostel]

and people wonder why Stevenson doesn't want to fight him for peanuts. When the purse isn't peanuts, I sense that the fight will be more likely to get made.

Or Stevenson, who is a "piece of shit", is scared to get knocked out in 3 rounds.

[Mostel]

There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Commission? You mean some sort of points on the event itself? Like actors can get.

Whats his deal on the backend? I wasn't aware he had a backend deal let alone how much he'd get from such a deal.

Dan Rafael & Fight Hype both report that Sergey Kovalev received a cut from the event profits in addition to his fight purse.

When did that loser Rafael stop blowing Stevenson long enough to report on anything? Rafael is a straight up pussy who can't deal with people questioning his oral sex sessions with Stevenson on Twitter because he'll block them right away.

[Mostel]

When did that loser Rafael stop blowing Stevenson long enough to report on anything? Rafael is a straight up pussy who can't deal with people questioning his oral sex sessions with Stevenson on Twitter because he'll block them right away.

It’s actually quite disturbing that I’ve bothered to respond to a facetious intellectually sub-normal disturbed individual like you, but if you’d read what I actually wrote, I never mentioned Adonis Stevenson’s name.

Well pussy, before just now, that comment was directed at Rafael being a scumbag. Now you can go kill yourself. fornicate off.

[ReggieDiggs]

There’s one important figure missing from Kovalev’s figures… and that’s the percentage commission he receives from the profits received from the event

Commission? You mean some sort of points on the event itself? Like actors can get.

Whats his deal on the backend? I wasn't aware he had a backend deal let alone how much he'd get from such a deal.

Dan Rafael & Fight Hype both report that Sergey Kovalev received a cut from the event profits in addition to his fight purse.

Sh!t. Well good for him. That doesn't seem like a thing many boxers can get in on (or you don't hear about it often at least) so respect to Sergey for that. He might be a savvy businessman after all & just using this whole thing to parlay it into getting more money. Anyway so depending on how much this is his bank account should be looking alright despite the claims he's being underpayed or w/e people are disagreeing with here with his normal deductions being taken out.

Also lo f#cking l @ some of the knuckleheads in here these days. How can so many straight up trolls & assholes not be getting banned. This is fascinating to me.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

ALL I KNOW IS THAT KOVALEV'S NAME IS MENTIONED RIGHT UP WITH LIKES OF MAYWEATHER, PAC, COTTO, GGG, FROCH, WLAD, CANELO....

HE IS CLEARLY IN THIS ELITE CLASS THERE IS NO REASON FOR HIM TO TAKE HOME MEASLEY 125K PAYDAYS WTF?????

THIS IS BAD......

There's also no GOOD reason that Floyd makes $40M+ ... so why should you care?

There are so many other people in this country struggling because they are being paid slave wages. Yet, you guys take the time to discuss the purses of millionaires, even listing out where the money went ... who gives a fornicate? Kovalev's family is eating well.

[ikorolev]

The question is if Kovalev's family will be eating well in 20 years when most of people will forget who he was. An athlete or another professional of that level is supposed to be able to retire and not worry about feeding their families. You can't compare a person who is in top 10-20 in their profession with a regular Charlie.

[palooka]

Kovalev will surely earn big from now; he seems an intelligent man and he has had a bout (v Hopkins) that will have made him more widely known than before - it is his breakout fight. Kovalev has a very fan friendly style and exceptional power, he looks very fresh and I can imagine him being a real sensation and earning accordingly.

[ReggieDiggs]

The question is if Kovalev's family will be eating well in 20 years when most of people will forget who he was. An athlete or another professional of that level is supposed to be able to retire and not worry about feeding their families. You can't compare a person who is in top 10-20 in their profession with a regular Charlie.

That's the gamble with boxing or any sport to one degree or another. You don't automatically get 7 digit checks cuz you're #1 & you still gotta pay your taxes & your people with that money when you do so it may not be 7 digits once you take out that money. Most mfers don't even get as far as Sergey has gotten & even fewer get where Sergey is trying to go. Very few people get to the point where they got their dinner paid for 20 years into the future & I'd guess those guys are the ones who were planning for it today by starting businesses & buying properties like Paul Williams & Paulie M. seemed to have done or are doing. Only a handful of guys ever get those crazy ass Floyd, Manny or Wlad type checks & I've yet to see Sergey have that sorta mass appeal to be collecting 8 digit checks & plenty of guys who've made millions have f#cked themselves over & lost it & could no longer pay for their meal two decades into the future.

[ikorolev]

In order to buy properties or invest otherwise, you need to have money which Sergey doesn't. He doesn't even have enough to buy an average house.

[ReggieDiggs]

In order to buy properties or invest otherwise, you need to have money which Sergey doesn't. He doesn't even have enough to buy an average house.

LOL, what!!! Of course you can buy a house with $125k in your bank account. That will cover a house or houses depending on where you are buying outright or get you loans to buy houses.

[palooka]

Kovalev has been a world champion for just over a year and had 3 defenses, he looked very good in those bouts and he certainly seems to have his feet on the ground and know what he has to do to make the big money. I'd have thought that an aggressive and massive punching boxer would make more than the average champion over their career. in snippets of interviews I've seen he really does seem grounded - I hope he does make very good money - he deserves it; sometimes the people that don't deserve it get it and sometimes the big money screws them up. I hope he gets it and he doesn't turn into an arsehole.