Can Floyd Honestly Keep With Manny's Pace??

[bnovelist]

We know who the better technical boxer is this isn't the question...

Can Floyd, really truely keep with Manny's furious pace? I mean EVERY exchange with Pac is HIGH STAKES...If miss one time, if you

are off balance, if you over commit yourself, any of these he tries to take you head off. EVERY EXCHANGE. Can Floyd deal with this for

12 FULL ROUNDS? Madaina is furious but his is more of a classic flat footed approach it's not the same as Manny's.

[bnovelist]

That's one hell of a pace to defend against for a full 12 round contest.

[tiny_acres]

Floyd coped quite well with a 165lb version of Marcos Maidana who threw 858 heavy-handed punches over the course of 12 fast-paced rounds, which is 29% more shots thrown than Manny could manage against Algieri.

End of thread!

Man they hate it when you use facts

[Badhusker]

Looks like Bnov got his arse wupped again.

[northern]

I don't think Maidana compares to Manny really though, both are powerful punchers no question and yeah Maidana throws more but is he as accurate as Manny Is ? just comparing styles again, Maidana is a beast, he throws everything at his opponents and physically dominates them, Manny he has destroyed a few of his opponents in the past but he dismantles them round after round more recently and just takes them apart with better all round boxing skills.

I don't know the full stats of their last few fights, I'm just going on what I've seen them both capable of in the past.

[MachoTime]

We won't know that until they get in the ring and actually fight. Pacquiao has much better footwork than Maidana and punches at all angles. Speed Wise Pacquiao is faster than Maidana. Pacquiao is a better fighter than Maidana.

[Badhusker]

We know who the better technical boxer is this isn't the question...

Can Floyd, really truely keep with Manny's furious pace? I mean EVERY exchange with Pac is HIGH STAKES...If miss one time, if you

are off balance, if you over commit yourself, any of these he tries to take you head off. EVERY EXCHANGE. Can Floyd deal with this for

12 FULL ROUNDS? Madaina is furious but his is more of a classic flat footed approach it's not the same as Manny's.

Has anyone ever seen Floyd gas out in a fight or not come in in great shape? I have seen Pacquiao get tired during fights, but not Floyd. If a 40 yr old JMM can keep up with Pac's pace, I think Floyd can.

Man, you are in full troll mode Bnov.

[bnovelist]

Yeah but you fail to mention it's Marquez on the juice and its always life and death in his wars against Pac. Always always life and death

[bnovelist]

The pace I'm making guy case is that Manny punches and bounces all over the ring! He's an extremely fast counter puncher just like Floyd

not a slow conventional Maidana. The only thing that I really do hope is if this fight ever gets made.....

THAT ON FIGHT NIGHT PAC DOESN'T GET STAR STRUCK BEING IN THE RING WITH FLOYD. IF EITHER ONE GETS STAR STRUCK AND HESITANT

IT'S GOING TO BE PACQIAO....

I CAN SEE THAT COMMENTS RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT ON YOUTUBE....

"MAN PAC WASN'T HIMSELF HE LET FLOYD BULLY HIM." "MANNY WAS SO DOCILE I SMELL A FIX!!!"

I CAN HONESTLY SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS RIGHT AFTER THE FIGHT.

[ikorolev]

I don't think Maidana compares to Manny really though, both are powerful punchers no question and yeah Maidana throws more but is he as accurate as Manny Is ? just comparing styles again, Maidana is a beast, he throws everything at his opponents and physically dominates them, Manny he has destroyed a few of his opponents in the past but he dismantles them round after round more recently and just takes them apart with better all round boxing skills.

I don't know the full stats of their last few fights, I'm just going on what I've seen them both capable of in the past.

If Floyd finds new reasons to not fight Manny, I think Manny should fight Maidana to make it clear that he is in a different league.

[tiny_acres]

I don't think Maidana compares to Manny really though, both are powerful punchers no question and yeah Maidana throws more but is he as accurate as Manny Is ? just comparing styles again, Maidana is a beast, he throws everything at his opponents and physically dominates them, Manny he has destroyed a few of his opponents in the past but he dismantles them round after round more recently and just takes them apart with better all round boxing skills.

I don't know the full stats of their last few fights, I'm just going on what I've seen them both capable of in the past.

If Floyd finds new reasons to not fight Manny, I think Manny should fight Maidana to make it clear that he is in a different league.

I think this would be a fun fight.Lots of action

[stovepipe]

Kenny Bayless kept MM away from Floyd in the second fight. MM was happy to get paid in the second one, he agreed to the gloves. No, I don't think he can keep pace with Manny with a neutral ref and allowed to wear gloves of choice. Floyd has lots of trouble in the first fight and that was pillow gloves. In the second fight he still got his way with the gloves and had the added help of Bayless

[davie]

Prime Pac would have been too much for Floyd.
At the time when the fight should have happened, i'd have agreed with bnovelist, there was a couple years where pacquiao looked unstoppable.
The relelentless pressure Manny would have put him under would have been too much and unless Floyd had a very favorable ref helping him he'd have lost that fight

but both men are now past their prime and pac doesn't have quite the same pace or intensity he once had and the algieri fight has done nothing to convince me otherwise
Mayweather sneaks a points decision now.
I've been of thew same opinion for a few years now.

[Badhusker]

Prime Pac would have been too much for Floyd.
At the time when the fight should have happened, i'd have agreed with bnovelist, there was a couple years where pacquiao looked unstoppable.
The relelentless pressure Manny would have put him under would have been too much and unless Floyd had a very favorable ref helping him he'd have lost that fight

but both men are now past their prime and pac doesn't have quite the same pace or intensity he once had and the algieri fight has done nothing to convince me otherwise
Mayweather sneaks a points decision now.
I've been of thew same opinion for a few years now.

Remember that the "unstoppable" Pac was the one that outright refused random blood testing, and made up lies about his fears from it and needles, despite having many tatoos. Now Ariza left, and he is ok with random testing, he looks "mortal" again. Not hard to figure it out.

[Ricky_]

Remember that the "unstoppable" Pac was the one that outright refused random blood testing, and made up lies about his fears from it and needles, despite having many tatoos. Now Ariza left, and he is ok with random testing, he looks "mortal" again. Not hard to figure it out.

No he never - the dispute wasn't over blood testing itself, but the cut off dates they could be taken. The 2 fighters went to a US judge to rule on the matter, his ruling: blood testing with a cut-off date of 14-days before the fight with further samples taken after the fight. Mayweather refused which begs the question, why even go to the judge in the first place?. Also begs the question what kind of superdrug can a man take 13 days before a fight when his camp isn't nearly finished, that will improve his performance and be flushed out his system completely by the time he gets back to the lockerroom? And why in Floyd's 40-or-so fight career had he never requested blood testing previous to Pacquiao? Why was no blood testing done within 18-days of the fight against Mosley, a known doper? And if Ariza only came on board before DeLaHoya, what was Pacquaio taking for the 5 years previous where he put in some career best performances stopping Morales a couple of times and Marco Antonio Barrera?

[IKSRTFO]

I don't think Maidana compares to Manny really though, both are powerful punchers no question and yeah Maidana throws more but is he as accurate as Manny Is ? just comparing styles again, Maidana is a beast, he throws everything at his opponents and physically dominates them, Manny he has destroyed a few of his opponents in the past but he dismantles them round after round more recently and just takes them apart with better all round boxing skills.

I don't know the full stats of their last few fights, I'm just going on what I've seen them both capable of in the past.

Thread is about the following question:

"Can Floyd, really truly keep with Manny's furious pace?"

The fact that Floyd coped with a 165lb version of Marcos Maidana that probably weighs close to 20lbs heavier than the Filipino, coupled with his work-rate being 29% higher than Pacquiao's, almost certainly supply's the obvious answer to that extremely simple question!

End of thread!

Difference is Pacquiao has NEVER had a problem touching an opponent even in his losses. Maidana had more problems with Alexander than he did with Floyd.

That is a FACT

[MachoTime]

Prime Pac would have been too much for Floyd.
At the time when the fight should have happened, i'd have agreed with bnovelist, there was a couple years where pacquiao looked unstoppable.
The relelentless pressure Manny would have put him under would have been too much and unless Floyd had a very favorable ref helping him he'd have lost that fight

but both men are now past their prime and pac doesn't have quite the same pace or intensity he once had and the algieri fight has done nothing to convince me otherwise
Mayweather sneaks a points decision now.
I've been of thew same opinion for a few years now.

Remember that the "unstoppable" Pac was the one that outright refused random blood testing, and made up lies about his fears from it and needles, despite having many tatoos. Now Ariza left, and he is ok with random testing, he looks "mortal" again. Not hard to figure it out.

And since Mayweather spoke first he is the innocent one...

[Ricky_]

Difference is Pacquiao has NEVER had a problem touching an opponent even in his losses. Maidana had more problems with Alexander than he did with Floyd.

That is a FACT

Irrelevant! Your point doesn't relate to the actual topic of this thread.

Neither did your point about Maidana.

[IKSRTFO]

Difference is Pacquiao has NEVER had a problem touching an opponent even in his losses. Maidana had more problems with Alexander than he did with Floyd.

That is a FACT

Irrelevant! Your point doesn't relate to the actual topic of this thread.

Well here's a direct counter to your argument, Maidana may be 29% more active but has NEVER been as accurate as Pacquiao.

[Ricky_]

Do have have difficulty reading English language? The topic of the thread is about Mayweather's ability to cope with fighting at a fast pace...

It appears it's you who can't read English, the topic title is "Can Floyd Honestly Keep With Manny's Pace??".

Maybe you stopped reading at "Can Floyd Honestly Keep With Ma" and picked it up again at "Pace??", then filled in the blanks as "idana's"?

[IKSRTFO]

Do have have difficulty reading English language? The topic of the thread is about Mayweather's ability to cope with fighting at a fast pace... so I referred to Floyd's fight against Maidana, who threw 29% more punches than Pacquiao could manage in his last fight... In fact, I don't recall Manny ever throwing that amount of punches in any of his recent contests.

But Manny can landed more in his last few fights than Maidana did against even Adrien Broner

[Ricky_]

Do have have difficulty reading English language? The topic of the thread is about Mayweather's ability to cope with fighting at a fast pace... so I referred to Floyd's fight against Maidana, who threw 29% more punches than Pacquiao could manage in his last fight... In fact, I don't recall Manny ever throwing that amount of punches in any of his recent contests.

But Manny can landed more in his last few fights than Maidana did against even Adrien Broner

We’re not talking about Adrien Broner!

We're not talking about Marcos Maidana either idiot.

[IKSRTFO]

Do have have difficulty reading English language? The topic of the thread is about Mayweather's ability to cope with fighting at a fast pace... so I referred to Floyd's fight against Maidana, who threw 29% more punches than Pacquiao could manage in his last fight... In fact, I don't recall Manny ever throwing that amount of punches in any of his recent contests.

But Manny can landed more in his last few fights than Maidana did against even Adrien Broner

We’re not talking about Adrien Broner! The topic of the thread is Floyd’s ability to fight at a fast pace for 12 rounds, which he proved against Maidana!

Are you guys intentionally trying to divert the topic under discussion, because my claim is an irrefutable statistical fact, or are you intellectually-sub-normal?

No it wasn't, it was the ability to fight 12 rounds with PACQUIAO not can he fight 12 rounds period or fight 12 rounds with Maidana who is a different fighter.

[IKSRTFO]

No it wasn't, it was the ability to fight 12 rounds with PACQUIAO not can he fight 12 rounds period or fight 12 rounds with Maidana who is a different fighter.

Learn to read!

Can Floyd Honestly Keep With Manny's Pace??

Can Floyd, really truly keep with Manny's furious pace?

That's one hell of a pace to defend against for a full 12 round contest.

I simply supplied a fighter that fought at a higher intensity than Manny Pacquiao has done for at least several years, when I posted the following sentence!

Floyd coped quite well with a 165lb version of Marcos Maidana who threw 858 heavy-handed punches over the course of 12 fast-paced rounds, which is 29% more shots thrown than Manny could manage against Algieri.

Do you notice the constant theme? It’s all about PACE, PACE, PACE, PACE, PACE!!!

And Manny's pace which is more effective is different from Maidana's pace which is generally less ineffective

End of thread!

[IKSRTFO]

And Manny's pace which is more effective is different from Maidana's pace which is generally less ineffective

The original topic of the thread was questioning Floyd’s ability to fight at pace for 12 full-rounds… if you want to speculate that Manny’s pace, coupled with his ability, reflexes etc. would trouble Mayweather, then that’s a different subject matter altogether!

The original argument has already been undermined!

You just want to divert the topic under discussion as a weak play to move your stance onto more solid ground!

Title of thread:
Re: Can Floyd Honestly Keep With MANNY's Pace?? It didn't ask if he could last with fighter X or Y for 12 rounds but the pace MANNY fights at which usually means he's throwing and CONNECTING UNLIKE MAIDANA.