Kronkpride must be heartbroken.

[tsmithy50]

His idol Chauncey Welliver has finally been dropped in the fifth round whilst dropping an 8 round unanimous decision against Ustinov in Russia. I feel for you mate.

[ruin795]

Was it an official knockdown? I watched it and it looked more like a push/throw down. I never even saw the ref do a count, but it cut to commercial so there might have been one.

[tsmithy50]

http://www.boxingnews24.com/2014/12/chu ... -welliver/

[ruin795]

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/ustinov ... ver-273095

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=J7StcfFIQqg


According to Chauncey, there was no knockdown. But may be some sour grapes because that's all he's got going for him.

[tsmithy50]

Interesting. There's no way kronk is going to except that as a knockdown even if the ref did count. This is huge, this sort of controversy reminds me of the famous Dempsey/Tunney long count or Ali/Liston was it a dive? Massive.

[Cutman Scabbers]

Didn't see any punch.

[tsmithy50]

Didn't see any punch.

Looks a definite push, does anybody know if it was officially scored as a knockdown though?

[crusader]

I didn't watch the whole fight so I can't say whether the figure is accurate, but I can't recall a lower output over several rounds according to punch stats: 44 punches thrown over 8 rounds for Welliver, so about 5 punches a round.

[ScottDetonator]

Didn't see any punch.

Looks a definite push, does anybody know if it was officially scored as a knockdown though?

It wasn't a knockdown and I don't think the ref counted. It was right on the bell and the adverts came on, so it was hard to say for sure especially as the broadcast was in Russian.

[Tony1244]

Interesting. There's no way kronk is going to except that as a knockdown even if the ref did count. This is huge, this sort of controversy reminds me of the famous Dempsey/Tunney long count or Ali/Liston was it a dive? Massive.

Massive! Looked like more of a push. This great controversy is neck and neck with the Zabruder film and the Civil War era Lincoln assassination.

[chucktaylor]

I watched the 5th and could stand no more, but I only saw Ustinov very clearly push Welliver down without even throwing a punch at the end of the round.

[Tony1244]

I watched the 5th and could stand no more, but I only saw Ustinov very clearly push Welliver down without even throwing a punch at the end of the round.

I quit watching after the 5th round too. That was no knockdown. Credit to Welliver for taking 2 tough fights in a row. He's not passing the tests, but unlike most HWs at least he's taking them.