He was never overly nervous about the act of fighting, it was a fear of losing. Now that losing is his job, he won't give a shit.GreenLightning wrote:Danny Williams used to suffer from terrible nerves and confidence problems before a fight and tha twas when he was good, now he's in the ring taking a beating seemingly every week, you would have hoped those nerves would have eventually stopped him from becoming a punchbag. I wonder why he does it, does he really need the money that badly? I'm certain its not for "love of the sport"
Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
its sad now, both men are long past their best, both are long past the time when its gotten to the stage where its worrying to carry on boxing.
both of them should have retired back in 2010, Botha should have retired after his fight with Evander Holyfield for the World Boxing Federation title and Williams should have retired after his loss to Derek Chisora for the British title.
when this fight happens. no when the entire event happens it wont be worth it, there is nothing for either of them winning or losing at the end of the night.
both of them should have retired back in 2010, Botha should have retired after his fight with Evander Holyfield for the World Boxing Federation title and Williams should have retired after his loss to Derek Chisora for the British title.
when this fight happens. no when the entire event happens it wont be worth it, there is nothing for either of them winning or losing at the end of the night.
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wesshaw1985
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
both men shouldn't be boxing that is a given.
But if they are both going to insist on carrying on, then I would rather it be against each other than some young, up and coming killer...
But if they are both going to insist on carrying on, then I would rather it be against each other than some young, up and coming killer...
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Mimmy
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Every time Danny Williams as much as farts there is a topic about him. We all know that he should be banned, there was a topic several months/years ago. Nothing isnt goin to change. Danny Williams is allowed to live his life as he wishes. Its not for us to tell him to pack it in. Fcuk me surely his wife has time to tell him inbetween counting all his money.
I think its about time we dropped the subject. Lets start a this up when the guy has severely injured himself, got a serious life threatening injury at least something new.
Fighting Botha has to be the safest fight in the history of fighting, this is proberly where the expression cant punch out a a paper bag came from, neither can throw a damn punch anymore so if they want to earn a few quid let them get it on. Jesus im sick of hearing about Danny Williams, its all old news nothing we have not heard before. Its like im in groundhog day.
Bollox im off to bed.
I think its about time we dropped the subject. Lets start a this up when the guy has severely injured himself, got a serious life threatening injury at least something new.
Fighting Botha has to be the safest fight in the history of fighting, this is proberly where the expression cant punch out a a paper bag came from, neither can throw a damn punch anymore so if they want to earn a few quid let them get it on. Jesus im sick of hearing about Danny Williams, its all old news nothing we have not heard before. Its like im in groundhog day.
Bollox im off to bed.
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Chimp Sutton wrote:I've just had a look at the rest of the 'bill', Steve Bendall is down to fight in one the supporting bouts
Chimp
And its for the vacant Malta (MBC) International middleweight title... a newly invented belt, and I dont believe he is Maltese???
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Fantastic Giants
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Goodnightmimmy123 wrote:Every time Danny Williams as much as farts there is a topic about him. We all know that he should be banned, there was a topic several months/years ago. Nothing isnt goin to change. Danny Williams is allowed to live his life as he wishes. Its not for us to tell him to pack it in. Fcuk me surely his wife has time to tell him inbetween counting all his money.
I think its about time we dropped the subject. Lets start a this up when the guy has severely injured himself, got a serious life threatening injury at least something new.
Fighting Botha has to be the safest fight in the history of fighting, this is proberly where the expression cant punch out a a paper bag came from, neither can throw a damn punch anymore so if they want to earn a few quid let them get it on. Jesus im sick of hearing about Danny Williams, its all old news nothing we have not heard before. Its like im in groundhog day.
Bollox im off to bed.
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Fantastic Giants
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
http://www.maltaboxingcommission.com/titles.htmlPokerRob wrote:Chimp Sutton wrote:I've just had a look at the rest of the 'bill', Steve Bendall is down to fight in one the supporting bouts
Chimp
And its for the vacant Malta (MBC) International middleweight title... a newly invented belt, and I dont believe he is Maltese???![]()
Perhaps this will help
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el_grande_mauro_mina
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
To qualify, you have to eat your bodyweight in Maltesers and they both did it without breaking a sweat.PokerRob wrote:Chimp Sutton wrote:I've just had a look at the rest of the 'bill', Steve Bendall is down to fight in one the supporting bouts
Chimp
And its for the vacant Malta (MBC) International middleweight title... a newly invented belt, and I dont believe he is Maltese???![]()
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Lol nice one or if you have watched the film the Maltese Falcon that will also get you a shot at it the whole outfit is a jokeFat Git wrote:To qualify, you have to eat your bodyweight in Maltesers and they both did it without breaking a sweat.PokerRob wrote:Chimp Sutton wrote:I've just had a look at the rest of the 'bill', Steve Bendall is down to fight in one the supporting bouts
Chimp
And its for the vacant Malta (MBC) International middleweight title... a newly invented belt, and I dont believe he is Maltese???![]()
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
if there is money to be made for everybody, they nobody cares......
war botha!!!!!!
war botha!!!!!!
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Darcy Delaney
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Danny has not worn wraps for a few fights if the gloves feel nice then he feels he don't need wraps also you do not have to wear wraps and that's up to the fighter
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Even though either of them fighting is a sad sight, I think Botha has quite a bit more left than Danny and expect him to win.
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
There is no way Danny Williams should be fighting still. As people have been saying, Botha has a lot more in the tank than Williams and should win easily.
Afterwards, both men should retire.
Afterwards, both men should retire.
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Two young up and coming rookies. 
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Fantastic Giants
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
ILikeBeer wrote:Two young up and coming rookies.

Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
I actually hope Danny Williams is throwing these fights. I watched his fight against Adrian Granat, it was awful to see - if he didn't throw it, he has ZERO punch resistance. ZERO.Chimp Sutton wrote:Some would argue otherwise but thank youSklar wrote: You're not daft, Chimp.![]()
It is an odd one that, I know for title fights etc an official watches the hand wrapping and signs them accordingly but even for a 'down the bill' contest they are surely mandatory (?) and wouldn't/shouldn't someone check before the gloves go on?Sklar wrote:Whilst I'm not disputing Danny's long-term health is at risk, I think he's throwing most of these fights for pay and is in more control than most give him credit for. Careless getting spotted with no wraps on though.
As for 'throwing fights' you're probably right, I've always though this 'fight' was questionable for example?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElVjzgjD2Ac
Chimp
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Gotta be hard for someone like Williams that doesn't make enough in their careers to retire on
After devoting so much of his life to one thing what options does he really have when it comes to putting bread on the table?
It's probably this, working doors or crime that he has to choose from
Easy to judge and yes he should be protected but he's gotta earn his dough somehow
After devoting so much of his life to one thing what options does he really have when it comes to putting bread on the table?
It's probably this, working doors or crime that he has to choose from
Easy to judge and yes he should be protected but he's gotta earn his dough somehow
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Fantastic Giants
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
I hope he's deleted his youtube clip of him with the cherry bakewell's.
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DavidPayne
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Williams should have retired after he lost to Carl Baker.
but presumably, he wouldn't have had his mortgage wavered.
but presumably, he wouldn't have had his mortgage wavered.
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
This fights probably still more PPV worthy than Cleverly vs Bellew.
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Fantastic Giants
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Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
And it will probably be more exciting too.ILikeBeer wrote:This fights probably still more PPV worthy than Cleverly vs Bellew.
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lillywhite14
- Heavyweight

Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Williams must have earned enough to retire on. Earning it and using it wisely is the key though
I thought he was doing well a few years ago, financially speaking. Perhaps he is getting good dough for being the knock over job thesedays?
Absolutely destroyed his record though! He was completely shot against Chisora let alone now
I thought he was doing well a few years ago, financially speaking. Perhaps he is getting good dough for being the knock over job thesedays?
Absolutely destroyed his record though! He was completely shot against Chisora let alone now
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
Fantastic Giants wrote:ILikeBeer wrote:Two young up and coming rookies.
Incredible fighter in top shape WOW! can't wait for this one.
Re: Danny Williams v Frans Botha - Jan 2015
The fight has now been rescheduled to 5th February, in Equatorial Guinea ![[icon_e_confused.gif] :confused:](./images/smilies/icon_e_confused.gif)
