Andre Ward Situation

[caldo2025]

Please take this guy off of every P4P ranking. He hasn't fought in over a year yet not only is he on these imaginary lists but the WBA STILL recognizes him as their 168 pound Champ. He gets to commentate on HBO on occasion and the world doesn't call him out. Now, he's still embattled in a legal fight but this time it's a tad different because now he's litigating against a dead person. Dan Goossen died a few months ago sadly so apparently the family will not let Ward out of the contract that is in effect until 2016.

Andre signed with Goossen after the Olympics. Goossen made Andre Ward into a household name, not an easy task for a historically soft Super Middleweight Division. Andre has lost every attempt in court to part from this contract but still seems to rather fight a dead person in court instead of boxing in the ring.

Yes he seems to have great skills but we haven't seen him in the ring with anyone special. That Super Six Classic was made up of mediocre boxers so hardly impressive (I do like Froch a lot though). This guy has now only fought 2 times in 36 months because he signed a contract with a Promoter that made him a star but now feels he's too famous to honor a commitment to someone that took a chance on him. Andre "SOG" Ward is a pathetic human being and what is wrong with sports.

The WBA needs to vacate that title already. He's not injured. He's not defended it. Drop him and lets see Anthony Dirrell fight someon for it like Froch or Abraham...oh god, that division sucks.

[magwitch]

2 fights in 36 months really isn't a lot is it...? Just realised that's 3 years , surely not?!

[Batley18]

Completely agree, I have had enough of the guy. The WBA aren't being forceful enough, if they said that they would take his title away, it may spring him into action. He obviously cares about the money far more than the prestige. Get rid of the 'Super Champion' belt, lets Froch's belt be the true belt, and lets get on with our lives.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Agree broadly (apart from the 'he's fought noone' nonsense obviously). The worst thing is he doesn't seem to care about keeping the boxing world informed of his intentions to return to the ring. Haven't heard much evidence that he's going to continue fighting. Surely you would want to keep your name out there and get people interested in a possible comeback.

I mean, the guy has tens of fans who need updating!

[Fantastic Giants]

Completely agree, I have had enough of the guy. The WBA aren't being forceful enough, if they said that they would take his title away, it may spring him into action. He obviously cares about the money far more than the prestige. Get rid of the 'Super Champion' belt, lets Froch's belt be the true belt, and lets get on with our lives.

Froch will never have the 'true belt' with Ward on the scene.

[PsychoGamerTwo]

Ward is a hell of a boxer, could be P4P #1 after Floyd, the only man i see giving Krusher & Triple-G a beating, but with THAT kind of inactivity... he doesn't deserve any belts.

[KBB]

Ward's situation is almost clear and he will soon be announcing that he is getting back into the ring, there will be news within a short period of time but the time for it has not been pinpointed for financial reasons. Once the air clears with all these other bigger fights on the horizon we will hear of Ward's next victim but they don't want to jeopardize the chance of getting the announcement overlooked.

[BAD INTENTIONS]

Who cares?
Why does Ward's status bother people so much?
Why do p4p list matter to people so much?

There has to be 1,000 more pressing problems in boxing today.

[hurricanemitch14]

everone is butt hurt bc he schooled froch, aa and kessler

[BAD INTENTIONS]

everone is butt hurt bc he schooled froch, aa and kessler

EXACTLY ... All of this crazy Ward-hate started as soon as he dominated Kessler. At some point it get tiring. Only in boxing are the best participants constantly ridiculed by fans.

In every other sport there is respect for the best.

[Tony1244]

Andre Ward is the best. But he needs to retire or get off the potty.

[hurricanemitch14]

Ward has/is in a nasty situation with his promoters.......u guys seem to forget every other week.......dont worry he'll fight again. so let froch and dirrell play around with their fake titles and when ward gets active again he'll dominate as usual

[diddy]

Quit whining you damn foreignors. You think the guy doesn't wanna fight and make money?!

As someone said there is SO much more wrong with Boxing right now. Wards inactivity due to legal issues isn't even on the damn radar. Quit being so butt hurt he beat your beloved Cobra.

[squiggy]

Completely agree, I have had enough of the guy. The WBA aren't being forceful enough, if they said that they would take his title away, it may spring him into action. He obviously cares about the money far more than the prestige. Get rid of the 'Super Champion' belt, lets Froch's belt be the true belt, and lets get on with our lives.

Froch will never have the 'true belt' with Ward on the scene.

He's not on the scene, that's the point.

[tiny_acres]

Completely agree, I have had enough of the guy. The WBA aren't being forceful enough, if they said that they would take his title away, it may spring him into action. He obviously cares about the money far more than the prestige. Get rid of the 'Super Champion' belt, lets Froch's belt be the true belt, and lets get on with our lives.

Froch will never have the 'true belt' with Ward on the scene.

He's not on the scene, that's the point.

So freaking true

[Evander]

As I understand it Ward has bought enough cred to kick the fk out of most arguments, his win over Rodriguez as impressive as it was is wearing terribly thin.
Ward has to fight.

[Taansend]

It's a shame we never got to see Ward fight more often (after the Super Six). He beat Froch although it was narrower than many want to remember but he is a classy guy & fighter and it's us fans who have lost out.

Best of luck to him whatever happens.

[hurricanemitch14]

Please take this guy off of every P4P ranking. He hasn't fought in over a year yet not only is he on these imaginary lists but the WBA STILL recognizes him as their 168 pound Champ. He gets to commentate on HBO on occasion and the world doesn't call him out. Now, he's still embattled in a legal fight but this time it's a tad different because now he's litigating against a dead person. Dan Goossen died a few months ago sadly so apparently the family will not let Ward out of the contract that is in effect until 2016.

Andre signed with Goossen after the Olympics. Goossen made Andre Ward into a household name, not an easy task for a historically soft Super Middleweight Division. Andre has lost every attempt in court to part from this contract but still seems to rather fight a dead person in court instead of boxing in the ring.

Yes he seems to have great skills but we haven't seen him in the ring with anyone special. That Super Six Classic was made up of mediocre boxers so hardly impressive (I do like Froch a lot though). This guy has now only fought 2 times in 36 months because he signed a contract with a Promoter that made him a star but now feels he's too famous to honor a commitment to someone that took a chance on him. Andre "SOG" Ward is a pathetic human being and what is wrong with sports.

The WBA needs to vacate that title already. He's not injured. He's not defended it. Drop him and lets see Anthony Dirrell fight someon for it like Froch or Abraham...oh god, that division sucks.

Yea good idea.......have Dirrell defend his title against the 2 guys that got clowned by Ward.........I don't care if he's lost the court battles or not, we do not know whats goin on behind closed doors. Ward is a fighter Goosen is a business man, so its not surprising to see the Goosen win........we will never really know whos right or wrong.

Just think with all this down time maybe it'll give Groves,Degale a half ass chance of winning 2 or 3 rds........on their way to a wide dec. loss

[Ezzard]

Ward being inactive is the best thing for the sport.

[Bard of Boxrec]

Should we start a campaign to encourage The Ring Magazine to include Vitali Klitschko in their ratings again?

This is actually a good point.

Ward being inactive is the best thing for the sport.

[Impractical Poster]

I feel the real issue people have with Ward and his inactivity, is that it puts the entire division on hold. Not only is he holding the paper title captive, but the lineal one as well. Someone mentioned earlier that Froch can never be the real champion with Ward on the scene. And this is where the frustration lies. As long as he stays inactive, the longer any fighter in the division has of proving they have what it takes to be the true #1 guy. Ward's troubles are robbing the division.

[danamba7]

Quit whining you damn foreignors. You think the guy doesn't wanna fight and make money?!

As someone said there is SO much more wrong with Boxing right now. Wards inactivity due to legal issues isn't even on the damn radar. Quit being so butt hurt he beat your beloved Cobra.

Nobody's "butt hurt" about that. Most British boxing fans fully admit and accept that Andre Ward is the better boxer. But how much longer can we wait before Froch gets the title? Another year? 3 years? 5 years? Froch may have not beat him, but at least he's active and his last 12 fights are about as impressive as it gets bar Mack.

[expe]

Quit whining you damn foreignors. You think the guy doesn't wanna fight and make money?!

As someone said there is SO much more wrong with Boxing right now. Wards inactivity due to legal issues isn't even on the damn radar. Quit being so butt hurt he beat your beloved Cobra.

Nobody's "butt hurt" about that. Most British boxing fans fully admit and accept that Andre Ward is the better boxer. But how much longer can we wait before Froch gets the title? Another year? 3 years? 5 years? Froch may have not beat him, but at least he's active and his last 12 fights are about as impressive as it gets bar Mack.

The only reason people are complaining is because they want to be able to claim Froch is number 1 in the division, until Ward retires or loses, he's number 1. It's not like he doesn't want to fight, legal issues are keeping him out of the ring. Froch himself hasn't exactly been active, 7 months since his last fight and he doesn't seem any closer to a return.

[SFW]

Froch may have taken 4 rounds absolute maximum against Ward. Max. 116-112 is the closest that could have been, and it's still the only time Froch has been clearly outclassed and bullied around a ring. I'd say just thank the Lord that Calzaghe didn't get his hands on him early on, because that would have been ugly.

[Rexob]

Waste of a career really, a talented fighter like that not boxing regular!