Closest to unbeatable
pernell whitaker was pretty untouchable in his prime. it's a shame his record has blemishes thanks to the incompetence of a few judges. trinidad was the only person who truly defeated him, and the whitaker that fought trinidad was a badly faded shell of his old self due to age and a reckless lifestyle.
RJJ is perhaps even more invincible. in the 2 fights we have seen him motivated (griffin II and ruiz) , he has really stepped his game up.
also, it would take an army to take down a prime hagler.
RJJ is perhaps even more invincible. in the 2 fights we have seen him motivated (griffin II and ruiz) , he has really stepped his game up.
also, it would take an army to take down a prime hagler.
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Calzaghe was unbeaten and any unbeaten fighter is pretty much the answer here.
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prime louis comes to mind. duran at lightweight.matador wrote:pernell whitaker was pretty untouchable in his prime. it's a shame his record has blemishes thanks to the incompetence of a few judges. trinidad was the only person who truly defeated him, and the whitaker that fought trinidad was a badly faded shell of his old self due to age and a reckless lifestyle.
RJJ is perhaps even more invincible. in the 2 fights we have seen him motivated (griffin II and ruiz) , he has really stepped his game up.
also, it would take an army to take down a prime hagler.
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Ray Leonard at welter and holyfield at cruiser
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joe was never considered unbeatable,Rexob wrote:Calzaghe was unbeaten and any unbeaten fighter is pretty much the answer here.
neither was rocky or lamar clark. records
only tell so much ...
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Chavez Snr at lightweight/junior welter - he was a machine and so skilled.
Holyfield at Cruiser.
Holyfield at Cruiser.
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handsofstone
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Hatton at 140 was relentless
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I'm not sure anyone would have beaten him the night he fought Kostya Tszyu, I'll never know how he took some of those punches.handsofstone wrote:Hatton at 140 was relentless
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I agree,one of the best nights ever for British boxingexpe wrote:I'm not sure anyone would have beaten him the night he fought Kostya Tszyu, I'll never know how he took some of those punches.handsofstone wrote:Hatton at 140 was relentless
Although he had some great wins after that,Castillo,Malignaggi and moving up to WW to beat Collazo,Ricky was never the same after beating Tszyu
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I think Duran might argue about Leonard but Holyfield at Cruiser, untouchable.littlepug wrote:Ray Leonard at welter and holyfield at cruiser
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Bit of an obvious one but Ray Robinson at welter by all accounts.
Ricardo Lopez at minimum weight.
Ricardo Lopez at minimum weight.
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Prime Edor Jofre... was about as perfect a fighter on paper as anyone I've ever saw... too bad no film really exists of the man.
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Good call on Jofre, but there are plenty of snippets of his bouts on youtube, bouts which cover his pre-prime, prime, and post-prime. Only problem is, there aren't many full fights, though I highly recommend watching the first fight with Medel. It was a great match: http://youtu.be/mFV9kGZBEek?list=PLg05N ... SBNh_5Juw3HomicideHenry wrote:Prime Edor Jofre... was about as perfect a fighter on paper as anyone I've ever saw... too bad no film really exists of the man.
I personally believe that Greb was the closest thing to unbeatable you will get at 160. That 45-0 year of 1919 and his 54-0-2 run which post-dated it was a testament to his skill, especially seeing that during the longer run, he gave T. Gibbons and Tunney their first losses, and beat a slew of other stellar fighters. I would say Pep and Armstrong at featherweight, Robinson at welter, and Leonard at lightweight as well.
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A peak Tyson, he hardly lost a round.
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No...Just noNoxy wrote:A peak Tyson, he hardly lost a round.
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Somebody mention Greb here? I just can't wait to see this legend in action. Somebody point me to the films of this guy....I can't wait to judge for myself.
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BoxBuzz wrote:Somebody mention Greb here? I just can't wait to see this legend in action. Somebody point me to the films of this guy....I can't wait to judge for myself.
Buzz, do you doubt that Greb did the things he did in boxing?
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Willie Pep and Packey McFarland.
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I do not doubt Greb's accomplishments.But I would like to judge his boxing abilityTomasino wrote:BoxBuzz wrote:Somebody mention Greb here? I just can't wait to see this legend in action. Somebody point me to the films of this guy....I can't wait to judge for myself.
Buzz, do you doubt that Greb did the things he did in boxing?
with my own eyes.Not some starry eyed reporters.
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There are 3 fighters I saw as unbeatable in my own time.
Tyson, I was an excited pre-teenager with no real knowledge of the psychological side of combat (aside from knowing which bullies to run from and which battles to choose in the school playground). And crucially, I learned much of what I knew from sensational tabloid articles which were no less than diligently researched factual tomes designed for the enlightenment of the general public. I just ate up the publicity. I was a long way from being able to form my own opinion independently of the press.
Chavez was unbeaten in over 80 fights, every one of which represented a significant accomplishment and a right to ever higher respect. I had this strangely simplistic belief that a fighters record is purely numbers and Chavez had the best numbers. His demeanor in the ring played a big part as well though. As much as my boyhood admiration was based on number-worship, Chavez looked like a very hard man.
Whitaker, my respect for him has grown over the years. From being frustrated by the feeling that this clown would never lose, I now have a genuine belief that Pea at his best posed a puzzle that was close to unsolvable.
By the time Roy Jones came to prominence, I was weary of trusting any fighters appearance of being unbeatable.
Tyson, I was an excited pre-teenager with no real knowledge of the psychological side of combat (aside from knowing which bullies to run from and which battles to choose in the school playground). And crucially, I learned much of what I knew from sensational tabloid articles which were no less than diligently researched factual tomes designed for the enlightenment of the general public. I just ate up the publicity. I was a long way from being able to form my own opinion independently of the press.
Chavez was unbeaten in over 80 fights, every one of which represented a significant accomplishment and a right to ever higher respect. I had this strangely simplistic belief that a fighters record is purely numbers and Chavez had the best numbers. His demeanor in the ring played a big part as well though. As much as my boyhood admiration was based on number-worship, Chavez looked like a very hard man.
Whitaker, my respect for him has grown over the years. From being frustrated by the feeling that this clown would never lose, I now have a genuine belief that Pea at his best posed a puzzle that was close to unsolvable.
By the time Roy Jones came to prominence, I was weary of trusting any fighters appearance of being unbeatable.
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Ali in 66 and 67
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Joe Gans at LW
Sam Langford at MW
Sam Langford at MW
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Wilfredo Gomez at super bantam, Zarate at bantam - supremely skilled boxers and destructive punchers.