6'10 1/2" Ruann Visser future Heavyweight Champ?

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6'10 1/2" Ruann Visser future Heavyweight Champ?

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Bio & Video on the link: http://thegiantking.com/ or if not allowed Google the lad.



"Ruann’s 87” reach is unmatched today in boxing. His arms are 6” longer than Heavyweight Vladimir Klitschko and 3” longer than challengers Deontay Wilder and Bryant Jennings. Mohammed Ali said ‘In boxing a 1/2” reach advantage is big and a 1 ½” reach advantage is unbeatable.’

Ruann is a fine all-around athlete, also in rugby, wrestling, and soccer. In golf he is a scratch golfer and with a low round of 62 ! Ruann has closen a professional career in boxing, as he enjoys it!"
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I would stick him in with Audley next :bag:
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Mahommedrasul Majidov

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He is slow and doesn't seem to have boxing experience... he pushes his shots...
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He's huge but terrible based on what I've seen, and simply being 6'10" isn't enough to take someone to a credible HW title. Valuev, for all the criticism he got, had a solid jab and showed glints of basic skill against most of his opponents, but Visser looks devoid of that to me.
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Fair enough. Watched the video over a over matched game opponent, he did well by showing some movement & ring generalship. Yes well not totally impressed, but he is only a few fights in.
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I think I seen a video of him. Wasn't impressed. With his size though if he can take 4-5 years learning the game vs lesser opposition & building a record I suppose he could make some serious money.
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im more interest in eugene hill coming back. i quite like him
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If being 6' 10" guaranteed a championship, then there would be thousands of people who were guaranteed a championship. There are many other variables that must be tested before he is given a credible chance at a belt. Plus, he can't box, so he would need to come a long way skill-wise.
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He's tall but slower than syrup coming out of a bottle. Put him against Taishon Dong he would get KO'd
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Lackeos wrote:If being 6' 10" guaranteed a championship, then there would be thousands of people who were guaranteed a championship. There are many other variables that must be tested before he is given a credible chance at a belt. Plus, he can't box, so he would need to come a long way skill-wise.
Idk man, although granted I don't think anyone is suggesting he'd be guaranteed of anything, but Nikolai Valuev seemed to parlay height into quite the boxing career. Took them a decade & change of mostly completely bs fights to get him to a title, but they eventually made a undefeated HW boxing champion out of a giant mfer who couldn't box for sh!t.
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A long reach is an overrated asset - you have to be very skilled, smart and fit to be able to use it effectively. Having shorter arms can be an advantage in infighting too, although I can't think of any particularly good infighters in the heavyweight division currently.

If being big and having long arms were such an advantage, this guy could have been unbeatable!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
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I think that Valuev could box more than he is often given credit for. He seemed to have a good understanding of how to use his height and reach, and at his best I believe he had an above average jab which he snapped out consistently and surprisingly quickly for a man his size. I also think that his punches flowed fairly well when he added straights and uppercuts behind his jab, and he was capable of subtle but effective steps back that regularly left solid opponents like the 2008 version of Liakhovich and prime Chagaev (I thought Valuev deserved to win) overreaching.

Now I doubt that he would've been remotely as successful without his great size, though him not being so large would likely have some redeeming aspects such as more agility, but to me there is a major gap between him and fellow giants like Visser, Julius Long, and Taishan Dong, who are in my view much closer approximations of a skill-less giant.
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He is so very raw. He needs a top notch trainer, needs to get into shape, and needs to learn how to throw that right hand. Decent jab he has there. He could be turned into something impressive with the proper teaching but right now he is a fresh unmolded piece of Pillsbury dough.
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crusader wrote:I think that Valuev could box more than he is often given credit for. He seemed to have a good understanding of how to use his height and reach, and at his best I believe he had an above average jab which he snapped out consistently and surprisingly quickly for a man his size. I also think that his punches flowed fairly well when he added straights and uppercuts behind his jab, and he was capable of subtle but effective steps back that regularly left solid opponents like the 2008 version of Liakhovich and prime Chagaev (I thought Valuev deserved to win) overreaching.

Now I doubt that he would've been remotely as successful without his great size, though him not being so large would likely have some redeeming aspects such as more agility, but to me there is a major gap between him and fellow giants like Visser, Julius Long, and Taishan Dong, who are in my view much closer approximations of a skill-less giant.
Idr seeing Nikolai for like the first decade of his career so idk what he looked like at first. He was like one of the Brazilian undefeated cats that bounce around from time to time barely if ever being seen. I do think using ones height, reach & jab well would be the things I'd work on most if I had a giant mfer without a boxing background as the fights he can't win on size (& that would be a lot of those early fights imo) he'll be able to win with solid usage of height, reach & the jab.

Idk if they can do that with this dude. As with anything the team you put together & the kids passion with this whole thing himself is key to whatever does transpire it just wouldn't shock me if 5 years from now this kid is 22-0 or some sh!t & getting people talking about him in a more serious manner. Been alot of crapouts as you mentioned though.
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Freedom wrote:Bio & Video on the link: http://thegiantking.com/ or if not allowed Google the lad.



"Ruann’s 87” reach is unmatched today in boxing. His arms are 6” longer than Heavyweight Vladimir Klitschko and 3” longer than challengers Deontay Wilder and Bryant Jennings. Mohammed Ali said ‘In boxing a 1/2” reach advantage is big and a 1 ½” reach advantage is unbeatable.’

Ruann is a fine all-around athlete, also in rugby, wrestling, and soccer. In golf he is a scratch golfer and with a low round of 62 ! Ruann has closen a professional career in boxing, as he enjoys it!"
Seen him a few times... if one notices, he throws his shots a bit like Carnera did. Something of a shove/punch... Garuntee, though, when he steps up in competition whatever power he has will be diminished. If people fall to him, it's because of his weight in the clinches... I'd like to see a world record be set between him and that Chinese giant for the "tallest combined height" in a boxing match.
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jezzamundo wrote: If being big and having long arms were such an advantage, this guy could have been unbeatable!

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_ ... &cat=boxer
karriem respress wrote: He was.
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funso banjo baby wrote:im more interest in eugene hill coming back. i quite like him
I wouldn't get too excited...
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I'd like to see a world record be set between him and that Chinese giant for the "tallest combined height" in a boxing match.[/quote]
:TU: me too !
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If he can shoot 62 why not be a professional golfer? He is a very long way from reaching a comparable level in boxing.
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7ft Tai Dong beats him & he sucks! :box:
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crusader wrote:I think that Valuev could box more than he is often given credit for. He seemed to have a good understanding of how to use his height and reach, and at his best I believe he had an above average jab which he snapped out consistently and surprisingly quickly for a man his size. I also think that his punches flowed fairly well when he added straights and uppercuts behind his jab, and he was capable of subtle but effective steps back that regularly left solid opponents like the 2008 version of Liakhovich and prime Chagaev (I thought Valuev deserved to win) overreaching.

Now I doubt that he would've been remotely as successful without his great size, though him not being so large would likely have some redeeming aspects such as more agility, but to me there is a major gap between him and fellow giants like Visser, Julius Long, and Taishan Dong, who are in my view much closer approximations of a skill-less giant.
No way Valuev deserved to win against Chagaev. I had him clearly losing 111:117. His promoter made that show, not Chagaev's one, and no one from Valuev himself to any member his team ever questioned the judges decision. I also had him losing against 46 y.o. Holyfield and Larry Donald. His fights over John Ruiz could have gone either way, so no robbery there. But comparing him to others super-sized heavyweights - yes, he was much better boxer than Visser, Taishan Dong, Jens Krull or Jurij Frank. He was very limited, but much better than these guys. The biggest underrated thing about Valuev in my opinion, was his stamina - he had excellent one for the guy of his size. He didn't look like athlete, but his physical conditions were really good.
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Why didn't Julius Long become HW champion?

Long is 7'1" tall and has a reach of 90".

Another giant is Marcellus Brown. Why wasn't he heavyweight champion?

Is size so important, or is it how you use it?
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Right. Valuev was huge, had some skill, and take a punch.

This guy has little skills, and might not be able to take a punch.
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Freedom2013 wrote:Why didn't Julius Long become HW champion?

Long is 7'1" tall and has a reach of 90".

Another giant is Marcellus Brown. Why wasn't he heavyweight champion?

Is size so important, or is it how you use it?
There's always a ton of variables in anyone's success in boxing. Lets not act like thats not a reality whatever the case. There are tons of highly skilled guys who were lacking in one disciple or another that didn't achieve what they might have otherwise been expected to achieve with their talent. Nothing is any different with bigger mfers.





I imagine for these bigger mfers one of the least knowable aspects of their future success from a fans point of view is work ethic. Like pretty girls have less work in finding mates so don't need to have the greatest personality, sense of humor or social etiquette I bet bigger guys need less of a work ethic in sporting endeavours cuz they can succeed without trying as hard on their way up. Thats just imo, but there are way more variables at work.

But lets not get it twisted either there are definitely advantages to being 50-100lbs heavier than most guys you'll fight & 4-8 inches taller than most guys you'll fight even if you are lacking in some of these other variables vs your competition. I mean being a guy with these physical advantages would kinda like being a middleweight fighting lightweights his whole career. Is it that crazy a concept that a less skilled middleweight fighting only lightweights could come up with a specialized strategy to defeat his smaller, weaker opposition. I think the fact there are tons of HW's with losing records, but you'll rarely see a guy in that 6'6 range up that'll have a losing record says there is less skill required when you're a bigger mfer or we'd need to assume everyone bigger is just better & we've seen plenty of sh!tty skill level tall guys so that can't be it. Its like being born performance enhanced for (many) sports to be that f#cking big.
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