Tyson Fury crossover to American Boxing

[GilFilmore]

With the WBC heavyweight bout happening this Saturday, there may potentially be a new American heavyweight star emerging in Deontay Wilder.

With that being said, there is not much else impressive in the United States besides maybe Bryant Jennings.

Tyson Fury isn't the most well received and appreciated British fighter in the U.K. right now.

I believe if Fury brought his fights and camp here to the United States permanently, the American boxing public would receive him much better. Therefore him becoming a massive star in the sport.

[ReggieDiggs]

I thought the British dug the Irish Ali? Am I incorrect in that assessment? Doesn't he do good numbers there? I mean hate & love are related. So if fans love him & wants to see him win or hate him & wants to see him lose I don't actually see much difference in the level of popularity for a guy. Floyd doesn't got the most guys who love him type fans, but he's the most popular guy cuz he's got soooooo many hater fans.

[seanilius]

Moving him to America would have serious repurcussions for Tyson. The relatively new found discipline he's aquired seems to stem from his uncle Peter and the growing Fury stable. If Tyson moved, then a load of family would have to go with him which wouldn't be feasible.
Without that tight support from his whole team I think he would go the 'Cuban' (Odlanier Solis) route, pile on the pounds, skip training and generally go a bit mad.

[montrealsuper]

Most charismatic funny HWT since Ali. Fury can transcend the sport, if he can somehow find a way to beat Klitschko. A lot easier said than done though.

[montrealsuper]

America dossn't always embrace the top British fighters. Hamed was totally misunderstood and not appreciated when he came over. Americans just did not understand his personality and confidence. Lennox Lewis was finally accepted after the Holyfield fights but it took a long time for fans to warm to him. Calzaghe and Froch are respected but they did not spend enough time here to make a deep impact.

[hurricanemitch14]

I was a big fan of Hamed/Lewis, I am a big fan of Froch. Not too much on Calzaghe.......got home cooked meals then cashed out against 40 plus yr old fighters then ran his mouth about how good he was. Calzaghe was a very good fighter but he could have proved so much more if he didn't play it so safe.

Hamed was so much fun to watch and underrated big time........how the hell Kostya friggin tszyu gets in 1 st ballot and Hamed got passed up twice blows my mind. Lewis came into his own and imo is a top 3 atg heavyweight. beat the best Klitschko and damn i could just imagine what he would have done to soft ass Wlad.

Oh yea almost forgot, Tyson Fury will proly never be well like anywhere, its not that he's british/irish or american its that he's tool kinda like broner tho not quite as bad. fury just seems like a very unlikable dude. He mouths off and tries to be funny but he comes off as a douche just like broner. I like mouthy/cocky fighters but fury rubs me wrong.

[Lackeos]

Americans will enjoy watching Fury about as much as they enjoy watching Wlad. They might like his unique brand of trash talk and stupidity, though.

Also, Stiverne might be a Haitian Canadian, but he resides in and fights out of America now. Problem is, he speaks fairly intelligently, which is not appealing to Americans.

[ReggieDiggs]

Oh yea almost forgot, Tyson Fury will proly never be well like anywhere, its not that he's british/irish or american its that he's tool kinda like broner tho not quite as bad. fury just seems like a very unlikable dude. He mouths off and tries to be funny but he comes off as a douche just like broner. I like mouthy/cocky fighters but fury rubs me wrong.

Isn't this the best thing about him? Ali was a HUGE douchebag asshole back in his hay day by the same standard people call Floyd or Tyson that today. People used to come to see him get ktfo. The Ali bio was the first non-childrens book I read & one of the funny stories in there is about some nice old lady who said some horribly racist sh!t to him along with making a statement about wanting to see him lose. People try to act like Ali was a hero from his pro debut til his retirement but its not true. Hell Ali used to say the round he'd knock a cat out in. You can't do that & NOT be an asshole. There's actually a UFC guy calling his KO round nowadays to & he is HATED lol. Tyson is cut from this cloth. He's just a cat who's having fun & making fans feel some kinda way. People hate him, but he's insanely popular cuz of all the hate.

[hurricanemitch14]

i dont think he can back his mouth up, thats what eats at people......ali, floyd, tyson etc were atg that ran their mouth. tyson like broner are frauds imo

[ReggieDiggs]

i dont think he can back his mouth up, thats what eats at people......ali, floyd, tyson etc were atg that ran their mouth. tyson like broner are frauds imo

Fraud or not they all were or are viewed as douchebag assholes & idk that people care(d) about their legitness as fighters. Its purely an emotional response. They just wanna see them all get ktfo. I mean people are so poisoned by Floyd even now they still say he sucks & is a fraud despite much proof of that being false.

[JC]

His trainer can't get a visa to get into the US at the moment, so it doesn't look as though they'll relocate there any time soon.

Fury has plenty of fans in the UK, if he's in more high profile fights, and on better cards, he'll pick up more mainstream interest.

I'd rather see some of the other UK prospects move over to America where there's a deeper talent pool.

[lillywhite14]

As JC mentions, his trainer and uncle, Peter, won't ever be allowed to come to the States so that's never happening.

If he stuck with the Irish thing then I'm sure it wouldn't have been a bad move considering half of America suddenly find their Irish roots after a sniff of Guinness.

[samwbr]

His trainer can't get a visa to get into the US at the moment, so it doesn't look as though they'll relocate there any time soon.

Fury has plenty of fans in the UK, if he's in more high profile fights, and on better cards, he'll pick up more mainstream interest.

I'd rather see some of the other UK prospects move over to America where there's a deeper talent pool.

Fury couldn't sell out the MEN Arena in his home city, he is not that big a draw in the UK.

[expe]

His trainer can't get a visa to get into the US at the moment, so it doesn't look as though they'll relocate there any time soon.

Fury has plenty of fans in the UK, if he's in more high profile fights, and on better cards, he'll pick up more mainstream interest.

I'd rather see some of the other UK prospects move over to America where there's a deeper talent pool.

Fury couldn't sell out the MEN Arena in his home city, he is not that big a draw in the UK.

18,000+ at his last fight. And he isn't a Manc, he was born there, but he lives round Lancaster/Morecambe sort of way and trains in Bolton or on the continent. Does big viewing figures on Channel 5 and is pretty well known, not a household name, but there's very few fighters out there that are bigger names than him.

[lillywhite14]

Fury is a pretty big name waiting to happen. Away from the sport he seems a likeable fella. Strange that they've never got him on chat shows etc, he would come across well. Perhaps he don't care for building his reputation etc which is fair enough.

[ReggieDiggs]

he is not that big a draw in the UK.

What's the top five or so draws in the UK? I'd assume Kell & Carl are on the list. But I'd assume Tyson would be among the top 5. He gets a hell of a lot of press randomly if no one actually likes watching him fight.

[expe]

he is not that big a draw in the UK.

What's the top five or so draws in the UK? I'd assume Kell & Carl are on the list. But I'd assume Tyson would be among the top 5. He gets a hell of a lot of press randomly if no one actually likes watching him fight.

Depends how you measure it, in terms of the casual fan and being well known, Froch, Khan and Fury would probably be the top 3, others do big ticket sales, like Frampton and Burns, but are yet to crossover into the mainstream outside their own areas. Overall I'd say Froch, Frampton, Khan, Fury and Groves are the top draws right now.

[WelshJack]

With the WBC heavyweight bout happening this Saturday, there may potentially be a new American heavyweight star emerging in Deontay Wilder.

With that being said, there is not much else impressive in the United States besides maybe Bryant Jennings.

Tyson Fury isn't the most well received and appreciated British fighter in the U.K. right now.

I believe if Fury brought his fights and camp here to the United States permanently, the American boxing public would receive him much better. Therefore him becoming a massive star in the sport.

American fans don't watch their own boxers let alone someone who will never go to be a world beater. His last fight was a 20k sell out when would that happen in America?

[dominik]

I don't think that makes sense. the only reason lewis became a star is that he was able to fight against big american legends like Holyfield and tyson. before he fought them no american cared about him (similar to klitschko now) but due to the fame of holy and mike he got decently popular too.

fury has no such american stars to fight against, there is probably now more Money in GB which has a very nice HW Scene (fury, chisora, maybe even haye again and also solid but not top guys like Price and chisora- that is way better than the american Scene which only has wilder and Jennings ATM) and a lot of fans.

fury can maybe fight some fights in the USA (although still a fight against haye can fill a Soccer Stadium in England and make way more Money than any american fight) but his base will and should stay in GB which has a good boxing Scene in These days.

[ReggieDiggs]

he is not that big a draw in the UK.

What's the top five or so draws in the UK? I'd assume Kell & Carl are on the list. But I'd assume Tyson would be among the top 5. He gets a hell of a lot of press randomly if no one actually likes watching him fight.

Depends how you measure it, in terms of the casual fan and being well known, Froch, Khan and Fury would probably be the top 3, others do big ticket sales, like Frampton and Burns, but are yet to crossover into the mainstream outside their own areas. Overall I'd say Froch, Frampton, Khan, Fury and Groves are the top draws right now.

Where would you say Kell is at? I figured him to be among the top 5.

[expe]

What's the top five or so draws in the UK? I'd assume Kell & Carl are on the list. But I'd assume Tyson would be among the top 5. He gets a hell of a lot of press randomly if no one actually likes watching him fight.

Depends how you measure it, in terms of the casual fan and being well known, Froch, Khan and Fury would probably be the top 3, others do big ticket sales, like Frampton and Burns, but are yet to crossover into the mainstream outside their own areas. Overall I'd say Froch, Frampton, Khan, Fury and Groves are the top draws right now.

Where would you say Kell is at? I figured him to be among the top 5.

Difficult to say really, he's not particularly well known to the casual fan, Sky have given a decent push, but he hasn't had the exposure others have had, apart from possibly Frampton and he sells out every fight in Belfast. Ticket sales for his fights have been up and down, they filled the arena for Hatton, but(I'm not 100% sure about these figures) they then had 5k for Jones I and 3k for Saldivia, no idea about Senchenko, suggests that it was the Hatton name that sold that fight. He has won a world title now and that will change things, I wouldn't be surprised if they sold out again for the first defence and fighting Khan would put him right into the mainstream, but he's been out of the ring since he won the belt 5 months ago and the only major exposure he's had surrounded the stabbing and that was back in August.

Overall I'd say he's somewhere between 6 and 10, but pushing past the names I mentioned in my first post will be difficult and others will come along in the next couple of years.

[samwbr]

His trainer can't get a visa to get into the US at the moment, so it doesn't look as though they'll relocate there any time soon.

Fury has plenty of fans in the UK, if he's in more high profile fights, and on better cards, he'll pick up more mainstream interest.

I'd rather see some of the other UK prospects move over to America where there's a deeper talent pool.

Fury couldn't sell out the MEN Arena in his home city, he is not that big a draw in the UK.

18,000+ at his last fight. And he isn't a Manc, he was born there, but he lives round Lancaster/Morecambe sort of way and trains in Bolton or on the continent. Does big viewing figures on Channel 5 and is pretty well known, not a household name, but there's very few fighters out there that are bigger names than him.

Think the Saunders v Eubank jnr fight boosted ticket sales and sold the night out, wouldn't have been without that IMO.

[expe]

Fury couldn't sell out the MEN Arena in his home city, he is not that big a draw in the UK.

18,000+ at his last fight. And he isn't a Manc, he was born there, but he lives round Lancaster/Morecambe sort of way and trains in Bolton or on the continent. Does big viewing figures on Channel 5 and is pretty well known, not a household name, but there's very few fighters out there that are bigger names than him.

Think the Saunders v Eubank jnr fight boosted ticket sales and sold the night out, wouldn't have been without that IMO.

Would still have been 10k+, not bad for an average fight we'd already seen. Saunders-Eubank Jr on it's own wouldn't have sold out either.

[Andrew]

His trainer can't get a visa to get into the US at the moment, so it doesn't look as though they'll relocate there any time soon.

Fury has plenty of fans in the UK, if he's in more high profile fights, and on better cards, he'll pick up more mainstream interest.

I'd rather see some of the other UK prospects move over to America where there's a deeper talent pool.

Fury couldn't sell out the MEN Arena in his home city, he is not that big a draw in the UK.

18,000+ at his last fight. And he isn't a Manc, he was born there, but he lives round Lancaster/Morecambe sort of way and trains in Bolton or on the continent. Does big viewing figures on Channel 5 and is pretty well known, not a household name, but there's very few fighters out there that are bigger names than him.

Sales were poor for when he was going to fight Chisora in Manchester in July.

The excel card was down to BJS v Eubank.

Tyson should be a lot more popular though. His Twitter account and his press conference rants do him no favour at all ( even though they can be funny)

[Andrew]

This was live on free TV in the UK couldn't resist posting it

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cVsUmcVWC6I