BoxRec Forum Boxing Hall of Fame- January ballots

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 04 Jan 2006, 19:18

Yep Archie's last fight in my home town of Phoenix and DiBiase was a loud wrestling champion, he didnt last to long with Archie in an honest boxing match..

Expug · Post by **Expug** » 04 Jan 2006, 19:26

The fight had to be worth a few laughs , did you see it?

BoxBuzz · Post by **BoxBuzz** » 04 Jan 2006, 19:30

I was there, Archie took it seriously and I think the wrestler was sort of amazed that the old man could find him and hit him so easily. I think he thought he could "athlete" his way to looking competitive. It was like a grown man beating a child for 3 rounds. Nice to see Archie retire on a high note. He was anything but washed up but he had nothing more to prove.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 04 Jan 2006, 22:41

My 25 Fighters

1. JIMMY WILDE
2. PASCUAL PEREZ
3. PANAMA AL BROWN
4. EDER JOFRE
5. PACKY McFARLAND
6. HENRY ARMSTRONG
7. SALVADOR SANCHEZ
8. JOE GANS
9. BENNY LEONARD
10. BARNEY ROSS
11. TOMMY RYAN
12. KID McCOY
13. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
14. JOSE NAPOLES
15. BOB FITZSIMMONS
16. STANLEY KETCHEL
17. LES DARCY
18. CARLOS MONZON
19. MARVIN HAGLER
20. PHILADELPHIA JACK O'BRIEN
21. ARCHIE MOORE
22. GENE TUNNEY
23. JAMES J JEFFRIES
24. JOE LOUIS
25. MUHAMMAD ALI

Proof I'm not biased against the Old Timers !

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 04 Jan 2006, 23:36

Great post Seamus. Edit your post though, so the list is alphabetical and not in #1 to #25 order. That way, Kidlefty can tabulate the results quicker.

Seamus · Post by **Seamus** » 05 Jan 2006, 00:54

In alphabetical order.

1. MUHAMMAD ALI
2. HENRY ARMSTRONG
3. PANAMA AL BROWN
4. LES DARCY
5. BOB FITZSIMMONS
6. JOE GANS
7. MARVIN HAGLER
8. JAMES J JEFFRIES
9. EDER JOFRE
10. STANLEY KETCHEL
11. BENNY LEONARD
12. JOE LOUIS
13. KID McCOY
14. PACKY McFARLAND
15. CARLOS MONZON
16. ARCHIE MOORE
17. JOSE NAPOLES
18. PHILADELPHIA JACK O'BRIEN
19. PASCUAL PEREZ
20. SUGAR RAY ROBINSON
21. BARNEY ROSS
22. TOMMY RYAN
23. SALVADOR SANCHEZ
24. GENE TUNNEY
25. JIMMY WILDE

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 05 Jan 2006, 02:32

Finally.....the time has come....for my official ballot!!!!!!

I tried to incorporate a ratio into my picks that roughly reflects the all-time talent level (in my eyes) of the 8 staple divisions. So, for example, there won't be 15 middleweights on my list, but there won't be only 1 or 2 either. There will, however, only be 1 or 2 flyweights and bantamweights on my list, considering the comparative shallowness of those divisions with the others over the course of boxing history.

Anyhow, here are my picks.

Muhammad Ali
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Wilfred Benitez
Jack Britton
Panama Al Brown
Ezzard Charles
Jack Dempsey (The Nonpareil)
Joe Gans
Kid Gavilan
Marvin Hagler
Eder Jofre
Benny Leonard
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Carlos Monzon
Archie Moore
Willie Pep
Sugar Ray Robinson
Jack Root
Salvador Sanchez
Michael Spinks
John L. Sullivan
Mickey Walker
Jimmy Wilde

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 05 Jan 2006, 14:03

Good so far, I count ten valid ballots, and two incompletes. Not bad for the first day and a half. I hope that all of the most knowledgable fight fans here at BoxRec will contribute by the January 25th deadline.

Who will make the inaugural class????

BrocktonBlockbuster49 · Post by **BrocktonBlockbuster49** » 05 Jan 2006, 14:20

heres what i got now

muhammad ali
jack blackburn
joe gans
sam langford
willie pep
sandy saddler
rocky marciano
joe louis
jimmy wilde
ed jofre
carlos monzon
marvin hagler
benny leonard
joe walcott "barbadoes"
Harry Greb
Ezzard Charles
Archie Moore
Jack Dempsey
Salvador Sanchez
Terry Mcgovern
stanley ketchel
mickey walker
alexis arguello
sugar ray robinson
henry armstrong

pringle · Post by **pringle** » 05 Jan 2006, 19:09

this guy:

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a123/ ... dibles.jpg

http://goodnightclubfights.spamspamspam.com ... &start=600

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 05 Jan 2006, 19:11

What the ???

Ambling Alp · Post by **Ambling Alp** » 05 Jan 2006, 22:11

After much soul searching , I have arrived with my 25.

Muhammad Ali
Alexis Arguello
Henry Armstrong
Ezzard Charles
Bob Fitzsimmons
Joe Frazier
Joe Gans
Harry Greb
Marvin Hagler
Eder Jofre
Jack Johnson
Sam Langford
Benny Leonard
Joe Louis
Rocky Marciano
Carlos Monzon
Archie Moore
Willie Pep
Ray Robinson
Sandy Saddler
Salvador Sanchez
Michael Spinks
Gene Tunney
Mickey Walker
Jimmy Wilde

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 05 Jan 2006, 22:57

1. Henry Armstrong
2. Tommy Burns
3. George Chuvalo
4. George Dixon
5. Frank Erne
6. Fireman Jim Flynn
7. Larry Gains
8. Marvin Hart
9. Kevin Isaacs
10. Peter Jackson
11. Wild Bert Kenny
12. Sam Langford
13. Jimmy McLarnin
14. Battling Nelson
15. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
16. Arthur Pelkey
17. Jerry Quarry
18. Jack Renault
19. Tom Sharkey
20. Carl Tremaine
21. Paolino Uzcudun
22. Nino Valdez
23. Earl Walls
24. Rolly Xipu
25. Teddy Yarosz
26. Carlos Zarate

dr_devious · Post by **dr_devious** » 06 Jan 2006, 10:53

Ray Robinson
Mohammed Ali
Sam Langford
Henry Armstrong
Willie Pep
Joe Louis
Jimmy Wilde
Marvin Hagler
Harry Greb
Carlos Monzon
Benny Leonard
Joe Gans
Alexis Arguello
Jack Johnson
Jack Dempsey
Rocky Marciano
Stanley Ketchel
Bob Fitzsimmons
Gene Tunney
Barney Ross
Barbados Joe Walcott
Ezzard Charles
Eder Jofre
Joe Frazier
Michael Spinks

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 07 Jan 2006, 04:24

thirteen lists in and almost 20 days to go,... this could end up being a sizeable first ballot,... keep 'em coming in!!!

sockdolager · Post by **sockdolager** » 07 Jan 2006, 20:37

Here is my list, atleast for this month this seems a bit easy.

Muhammed Ali
Joe Louis
Ray Robinson
Sam Langford
Willie Pep
Archie Moore
Ezzard Charles
Jack Johnson
Henry Armstrong
Rocky Marciano
Carlos Monzon
Jack Dempsey
Joe Frazier
Marvin Hagler
Sandy Sadler
Joe Gans
stanley ketchel
Harry Greb
mickey walker
Wilfred Benitez
John L. Sullivan
James Jeffries
Gene Tunney
Kid Chocolate
Jake LaMotta

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 07 Jan 2006, 20:52

sockdollanger wrote:Here is my list, atleast for this month this seems a bit easy.

The hard part right now is keeping it to 25.

kidlefty · Post by **kidlefty** » 10 Jan 2006, 14:19

A bit of a slowdown, but there's still plenty of time. Remember, you can edit your ballots right up until the 25th, so don't be shy.

iceman21287 · Post by **iceman21287** » 12 Jan 2006, 02:56

Cap wrote:1. Henry Armstrong
2. Tommy Burns
3. George Chuvalo
4. George Dixon
5. Frank Erne
6. Fireman Jim Flynn
7. Larry Gains
8. Marvin Hart
9. Kevin Isaacs
10. Peter Jackson
11. Wild Bert Kenny
12. Sam Langford
13. Jimmy McLarnin
14. Battling Nelson
15. Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
16. Arthur Pelkey
17. Jerry Quarry
18. Jack Renault
19. Tom Sharkey
20. Carl Tremaine
21. Paolino Uzcudun
22. Nino Valdez
23. Earl Walls
24. Rolly Xipu
25. Teddy Yarosz
26. Carlos Zarate

Cap...this is a joke ballot right?

I mean, I respect your opinion of course, but Nino Valdes, Jerry Quarry, Jack Renault, George Chuvalo on the ballot and not Ezzard, Ali, Jack Johnson, etc.?

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 12 Jan 2006, 10:41

Hey guys...This is a great idea.

Here are my first 25 inductees:

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Joe Louis
4. Muhammad Ali
5. Joe Gans
6. Willie Pep
7. Jack Johnson
8. Sam Langford
9. Harry Greb
10. Benny Leonard
11. Rocky Marciano
12. Jimmy Wilde
13. Carlos Monzon
14. Ezzard Charles
15. Archie Moore
16. Marvin Hagler
17. Jack Dempsey
18. Sandy Saddler
19. Alexis Arguello
20. Eder Jofre
21. Stanley Ketchel
22. Barney Ross
23. Emile Griffith
24. Ike Williams
25. Tony Canzoneri

Cap · Post by **Cap** » 12 Jan 2006, 18:54

Well, they said to list them alphabetically. Did'ja notice how I found a name for each letter of the alphabet?

And I figured, let everyone else pick the usual suspects. These guys, by the mere spilling of their own blood, deserve to be honoured in a Hall of Fame.

Cap

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 14 Jan 2006, 10:40

Dear Friends, how short is a list of only 25! I put this, but I have more than other 25 more or less perfects as this:

Henry Armstrong
Jimmy Barry
Wilfredo Benítez
Panamá Al Brown
Jack Dempsey (Heavy)
George Dixon
Bob Fitzsimmons
Harry Greb
Masahiko (Fighting) Harada
Eder Jofre
Stanley Ketchell
Sam Langford
Joe Louis
Nicolino Locche
Rocky Marciano
Carlos Monzón
Archie Moore
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien
Pascual Pérez
Sugar Ray Robinson
Tommy Ryan
Gene Tunney
Mickey Walker
Jimmy Wilde
Carlos Zárate

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 14 Jan 2006, 10:59

Oh, excused my bad memory and my ignorance; as I know, nobody can vote twice, but, only as a mention, this only 30 greatest:

Mohammed Ali
Abe Attell
Paul Berlenbach
Tony Canzoneri
Ezzard Charles
Kid Chocolate
Billy Conn
Jim Corbett
Jack (Nonpareil) Dempsey
Jack Dillon
Bob Foster
Joe Gans
Kid Gavilán
Pete Herman
Jim Jeffries
Jack Johnson
Johnny Kilbane
Benny Leonard
Tommy Loughran
Terry McGovern
Jimmy McLarnin
José Nápoles
Battling Nelson
Willie Pep
Barney Ross
Sandy Saddler
Max Schmeling
Joe Walcott
Harry Wills
Tony Zale

And Duilio Loi, and Dick Tiger, and Nino Benvenutti, and... and...

Martin Sosa Cameron · Post by **Martin Sosa Cameron** » 14 Jan 2006, 11:09

Dear friends, all my excuses for you, but, as can anyone mentioned only 25 and don't be unjust? An option is the top 50 or 70 for each one, and after the voting, to select, by quantity, the 25 with more votes

elmersalsa · Post by **elmersalsa** » 17 Jan 2006, 09:23

Sorry, I read that the 25 in the list gotta be in alphabetical order.

Lets see:

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Alexis Arguello
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Tony Canzoneri
5. Ezzard Charles
6. Jack Dempsey
7. Joe Gans
8. Harry Greb
9. Emile Griffith
10. Marvin Hagler
11. Eder Jofre
12. Jack Johnson
13. Stanley Ketchel
14. Sam Langford
15. Benny Leonard
16. Joe Louis
17. Rocky Marciano
18. Carlos Monzon
19. Archie Moore
20. Willie Pep
21. Sugar Ray Robinson
22. Barney Ross
23. Sandy Saddler
24. Jimmy Wilde
25. Ike Williams